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    hey man, my main question is based around the fact that owen franks (new zealand all black) stated that when squatting if ur not powering up (the movement should be faster going up than down) your using the slow twitch muscles nt the fast ones and this will slow u down.

    also what other mistakes can be made where you tink wat u are doing will make u faster but work the opposite way and u may get slower????
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    Originally Posted by tomgaa View Post
    hey man, my main question is based around the fact that owen franks (new zealand all black) stated that when squatting if ur not powering up (the movement should be faster going up than down) your using the slow twitch muscles nt the fast ones and this will slow u down.

    also what other mistakes can be made where you tink wat u are doing will make u faster but work the opposite way and u may get slower????
    That's kind of a myopic way of thinking. With most of the major compound lifts, you want to do the lift as fast as possible. When you squat, you want to explode up. When you deadlift, you want to rip the bar up. When you bench, you want to explode the bar off your chest, etc. So in that respect, you don't want to be fast as possible. But you don't want you speed to be at the expense of your form.

    That being said, there aren't really "mistakes" per say, that you can make that will make you too slow. This is the mistake people make when they say they don't want to lift too heavy because it will make you slow. If you want to be fast for a sport like rugby, there are various things you need to do in addition to building up your leg strength. the main thing is sprinting. running at practice, doing agility drills, etc. but also, plyo's (box jumps, broad jumps, jump squats, etc) will be the easiest thing to incorporate into your routine as it requires very little skill. Power Olympic movements are good as well, the power cleans, power snatches, high pulls, are good to incorporate.

    I know Owen Franks himself is a big proponent of Crossfit. he actually comes to the US every now and then to train with a guy. There are some videos of him over at youmerugby.com training, as well as training videos of the Crusaders and such. A lot of the clubs emphasize Olympic power movements.
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    HEY!! Just checking in to see how the workouts are coming along.
    Hey grace! Thanks for stopping by! How are things?
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    Good but very busy. Looks like things are going pretty good in here?
    Things are going pretty well. Lots of training lately. Recently added Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu to the mix.
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    Deadlift

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    Foam Roller
    Pirformis Stretch
    Yoga Twists
    Bodyweight Squats
    Static Hip Stretch plus Glute Contraction

    Workout:
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    245x5 295x3 345x2 370x1 390x1 415x1 440x5
    Pretty happy with this. One of the guys at the gym said it looked like I had 1 or 2 left in the tank, but I didn't want to go to full failure as I had a rugby tournament the next day.

    Box Jumps and Pullup Superset
    1A Box Jumps 38"x4x2
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    I had to cut the workout short, but it felt like a great workout.
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    Bench Press


    Warmup:
    Prone Extension 2 sets of 10


    Forward Flexion on side, 2 sets of 10
    Like this video, except using one arm at a time, and lying on your side


    Workout:
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    BWx4x5

    Bench Press
    160x4x10 160x12
    Did about 30 seconds of rest between the first 3 sets, then 1 minute of rest between the last 2 sets.

    Back Circuit (rest 10 seconds between 1A and 1B, rest 1 minute between 1B and 1C, rest 1 minute 1C and 1A)
    1A Wide Grip Pullups BWx4x5
    1B Close Grip Chiunups BWx8 BWx3x4 BWx3
    1C Inverted Rows BWx4x10

    Machine Shrugs
    315x4x12


    PM: Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu

    Warmup:
    Laps around the gym
    side to side shuffling
    Leg Circuit: Bodyweight Squats, Jumping Jacks, Seal Jacks, Cross Over Jacks 10 reps each. 3 times.
    Hip Escapes
    Forward Rolls
    Backward Rolls
    Cartwheels


    Drills:
    Ground Escape
    Bearhug Release
    Framework drill (on your back, keep yourself from getting underhooked and flattened out)
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    AM: Squat

    Warmup:
    Yogatwists
    Dynamic Pirformis Stretch
    Short Band Sidesteps
    Bodyweight Squats

    Workout:
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    30"x6x3

    Squats
    45x5 205x5x10

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    AM: Overhead Press

    Warmup:
    Soft Tissue work with lacrosse ball
    I had a lot of stiffness in my shoulders, so I just did this for a while, working through full range of motion to break up the fascia.

    Workout:
    Overhead Press

    105x4x10 105x15

    Back Superset (10 seconds rest between exercises)
    1A Widegrip Pullups BWx3x5
    1B Narrow Grip Chinups BWx7 BWx5 BWx 4
    1C Facepulls 50x3x12

    Standing Dumbbell Overhead Press
    40x2x12 45x12 45x10

    Traps and Dips Superset
    2A Machine Shrugs 295x3x15
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    [B]7/26/12

    Back Superset (10 seconds rest between exercises)
    1A Widegrip Pullups BWx3x5
    1B Narrow Grip Chinups BWx7 BWx5 BWx 4
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    10 seconds of rest! damn, thats intense!
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    10 seconds of rest! damn, thats intense!
    Yeah my arms got a good pump out of it actually haha. My back will probably be sore tomorrow.
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    Deadlift

    Warmup:
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    Static Hip stretches
    Yoga Twists
    Bodyweight Squats

    Workout:
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    280x5x10

    Weighted Box Jumps (wore a 40lb vest)
    18"x3 24"x4x3 30"x3
    First time I did it with the vest. It was pretty rough.

    Barbell Reverse Lunges
    135x3x8 (each leg)
    Haven't done these in a while. I got pretty gassed.

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    [QUOTE=BobisMighty;917665113]7/18/12


    Workout:

    90x5 115x3 135x2 145x1 150x1 160x1 170x3(PR)
    170 was a PR at 1 rep, let alone 3. Very happy about that.




    Originally Posted by BobisMighty View Post
    7/20/12


    Workout:
    Deadlift

    245x5 295x3 345x2 370x1 390x1 415x1 440x5
    Pretty happy with this. One of the guys at the gym said it looked like I had 1 or 2 left in the tank, but I didn't want to go to full failure as I had a rugby tournament the next day.

    Great Press PR and sweet dead work before a game day.
    people ask me how to train, and i answer "i look at what you do and then i do the exact oposite"


    if your family was captured and you were told you needed to put 100 pounds onto your max squat within two months or your family would be executed, would you squat once per week? Something tells me that you'd start squatting every day
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    Workout:

    90x5 115x3 135x2 145x1 150x1 160x1 170x3(PR)
    170 was a PR at 1 rep, let alone 3. Very happy about that.






    Great Press PR and sweet dead work before a game day.
    Thanks! Was very happy to hit those numbers. I also made some impressive cuts at the 7s tournament that saturday as well. No one expects the prop to make cuts! Unfortunately i bruised my heal pretty bad making those cuts, so practice last week was very painful.
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    AM - Bench Press

    Didn't really warmup as I was running late. Used the first 2 sets of bench to warm up my upperbody.

    Workout:
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    150x5 170x5 180x2x10 180x12
    Felt pretty good.

    Flat Dumbbell Bench Press
    60x16 60x15
    Going to stick with 60 until I can get 2 sets of 20 reps, then will move up.

    Row and Rear Delts Superset
    1A Pendlay Rows 135x12 145x2x12
    1B Rear Delt Flies with weight plates 5lbsx3x15

    Machine Shrugs and Chinups Superset
    2A Machine Shrugs 295x3x15
    2B Chinups BWx3x5
    I've decided I'm not going to do curls since I can just do chinups and at least get more volume in my back while hitting my biceps. No point in doing curls if I can't even chinups my own weight for 10 reps.

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    Things are going pretty well. Lots of training lately. Recently added Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu to the mix.
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    Sounds like a great cross training for rugby. It should serve you well.
    I hope so haha. Although I have a 10 class pass through Amazon Local. So after tonight, I have 7 more classes. Not sure what the pricing will be like once I use up my deal. A lot of the MMA gyms in the are are too expensive for me.
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    I hope so haha. Although I have a 10 class pass through Amazon Local. So after tonight, I have 7 more classes. Not sure what the pricing will be like once I use up my deal. A lot of the MMA gyms in the are are too expensive for me.
    It's popularity has really driven the prices up. I use to pay like $45 a month for son to take classes and now I pay $150.
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    It's popularity has really driven the prices up. I use to pay like $45 a month for son to take classes and now I pay $150.
    Yeah I've notice that's the way with a lot of "specialty" schools or gyms. I understand you're not just paying for the facility, you're paying for the coaching, but if you have around 100 students, each paying around $45 a month, that's still a lot of profit, even more so if you're charging over $100. I know he took a hit with this Amazon Local deal though, so if it's reasonable, I might pay for a few months during the winter off-season. It sucks because I can't spar during this trial membership. I just wear a big yellow shirt that say TRIAL on it, and I have to practice drills with the other trial members.
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    Yeah I've notice that's the way with a lot of "specialty" schools or gyms. I understand you're not just paying for the facility, you're paying for the coaching, but if you have around 100 students, each paying around $45 a month, that's still a lot of profit, even more so if you're charging over $100. I know he took a hit with this Amazon Local deal though, so if it's reasonable, I might pay for a few months during the winter off-season. It sucks because I can't spar during this trial membership. I just wear a big yellow shirt that say TRIAL on it, and I have to practice drills with the other trial members.
    Yeah dude that does suck! It's like tease! The shirt thing would piss me off and I would want to be able to do more in a trial. The purpose should be to see if your a good fit with environment and trainers or coaches not just to see the place.
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    Yeah dude that does suck! It's like tease! The shirt thing would piss me off and I would want to be able to do more in a trial. The purpose should be to see if your a good fit with environment and trainers or coaches not just to see the place.
    Yeah it is kind of annoying, although the last night's class was a bit more hands on than usual. But I did sit down with them to discuss prices and it's pretty damn expensive. About $149 a month just for the BJJ stuff. But I did find two new groupon deals for other schools near my work. I think I'll buy those deals to stay conditioned during the winter after my season ends.
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    Yeah it is kind of annoying, although the last night's class was a bit more hands on than usual. But I did sit down with them to discuss prices and it's pretty damn expensive. About $149 a month just for the BJJ stuff. But I did find two new groupon deals for other schools near my work. I think I'll buy those deals to stay conditioned during the winter after my season ends.
    I would take advantage of as I could find, just to be able to try alot of different places. The more you try the better the fit you can find.
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    I would take advantage of as I could find, just to be able to try alot of different places. The more you try the better the fit you can find.
    Yeah I bought a 20 class pass to a school that teaches Sambo and Burmese Boxing. It's going to be awesome.
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    damn...dunno how you can handle training, rugby and then BJJ....

    but all is going well my man?!?
    It's pretty rough actually. But I really only feel it on Wednesday, which is my off day. But Im pretty fat right now, i'm at 235 so my body can handle it haha. Although I don't look that heavy.

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