Torque vs. Horsepower. Which is more important?

[cncman]

Torque, up to a point I guess. The push in every gear up to XX MPH is raw. Becomes a battle of RPM and HP.

[Pauly-Walnuts]

240kw = 320hp
317kw = 424hp

Have plently of modded v8s, mostly LSx powered holdens but not many go further than exhaust/intake/tune. Turbo v8 are starting to take off though. Plenty of 10seonds car on the streets but no many faster than that. Pretty much every modded v8 with do 12's.

Most people i hang around with arent interested in striaght line, and most drive highly modified evo and subis. A few have evos they have spent hundreds of thousands on, and compete with the best timeattack cars from japan (and these are open budget workshop sponsored cars (nearly to AMS evo specs) against privately owned). one has over 750hp at all 4 (its like a 2.8 stroker with a 42r), full cage, 10inch semi slicks, and is street driven. But has never seen the strip.

The guys who owns the exhaust shop i use has a 76 SS chevelle, standard was 454, hes put a 540 Merlin stroker (598cui) and turboed it. But its a cruiser/powerskid, hasnt seen the strip, basically only street driven.

Bad arse bro, send me links to your stuff. I love cars and like to see different stuff.

[Turbomunkey]

No, farting by my house with a Civic makes you sound ignorant.

/life

[BL-09]

Everyone knows the single most important part is the top speed rating:

[636 HunteR]

Technically torque, as horsepower is a man made formula equaling torque multiplied by RPMs divided by 5xxx or whatever, but they pragmatically matter an equal amount. All torque is like a tractor. All HP is like a weed wacker. Though without accounting for weight, the issue of Tq vs HP is pointless.

[promod63vette]

mickey thompsons 315 on a little 15" rim works for me, great answer!

rtcttfmf!!

[JOHN GARGANI]

Technically torque, as horsepower is a man made formula equaling torque multiplied by RPMs divided by 5xxx or whatever, but they pragmatically matter an equal amount. All torque is like a tractor. All HP is like a weed wacker. Though without accounting for weight, the issue of Tq vs HP is pointless.

finally!!!

torque is defined as the ability to maintain speed under load......from a physics point of view.....

from a Dentist's (mine) point of view: torque means everything with handpieces: the amount of speed they generate means squat if when you push them against a tooth, they slow down or stop.....

the more torque they have the more they maintain their speed while cutting......


the load, in the case of the cars, is the weight of the cars pushing on the tires, meaning, gravity......

getting that car up to speed quickly and maintaining it, is a balance between the two.....


to say which is more important, is a contradiction of terms, technically: they must work together.

[Tough92]

what are some good mods to get off the line quicker?

i have an 06 gto

slp loudmouth exhaust,k&n cai

[14nce]

Bad arse bro, send me links to your stuff. I love cars and like to see different stuff.

pm sent with some links.

[14nce]

what are some good mods to get off the line quicker?

i have an 06 gto

slp loudmouth exhaust,k&n cai

tune and really good tires.

If its auto a Stall converter, and manual just gotta learn how to drive.

[Pauly-Walnuts]

what are some good mods to get off the line quicker?

i have an 06 gto

slp loudmouth exhaust,k&n cai

Fast intake
Stall as mentioned, Yank or Vigalante are good, say 3800.
Heads ported or some AFR's
Long tubes
Cam, call fro the right grind.
150 shot of N20
Sticky tires and pray the half shafts hold.

[Pauly-Walnuts]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2At9PL5egI

Here's my buddies GTO, it later ran a 9:01 at 156 MPH can't find that video. Dude bitching about his burnouts was me. My buddies built this car and my friend owns it.

[themiscson]

this is a stupid thread, there both equally important
torque is what you feel while accelerating (twisting force) and horsepower is = work/time..

i could go into alot more detail but i got to go put some engines back together

[camdls1]

even though im a v8 guy, the petrol usage is pretty ****ty.

do love the feeling of booting it in 1st and smashing the passenger into there seat though.

the ford xr6 engine makes alot of torque though, 393 lb/ft of torque from 1950 rpm is pretty crazy and it is a 4 door family car that gets to 100 km/h in under 5 seconds.

240kw = 320hp
317kw = 424hp

Have plently of modded v8s, mostly LSx powered holdens but not many go further than exhaust/intake/tune. Turbo v8 are starting to take off though. Plenty of 10seonds car on the streets but no many faster than that. Pretty much every modded v8 with do 12's.

i noticed the TT kits are getting pretty popular, powerskids in 3rd sounds pretty good.

whats the most power you have seen out of a simple cam only ls1??

[14nce]

a friend had 250kw, so 335hp with only a small cam, OTR and exhaust in a LS1 powered SS. Im not a v8 person so dont really know how much they can really make.

[NYY]

Sgt, for now but thanks. Let's go with day to day driving, with the occasional "spirited" runs down the highway.

In that scenario, torque is more important. When you're accelerating from a stop it's the torque of the engine that's moving the car.

[promod63vette]

This little guy is 282 inches, makes around 730 hp, 600 ftlb tq, takes the stripe at 10,450 rpm and has been as quick as 7.95@164 in a 2450lb car.

[Dave P]

If Torque was all that mattered then Electric Cars would dominate I would think.

[Cylheadporter]

To many people confuse torque with power down low. Its all about the horsepower.

[LifeChanging09]

This little guy is 282 inches, makes around 730 hp, 600 ftlb tq, takes the stripe at 10,450 rpm and has been as quick as 7.95@164 in a 2450lb car.

do not believe.... only because 730hp vs 2450lbs (in most likely that beauty of a jerry bickel cav or a haas car) jus doesnt jive and im takin it that its a comp car?


also mph is WAYYY to low to go high 7's...

[TuHungLo]

Tq from an electric motor doesnt translate to the road in many applications

[Kevzaz]

Torque gives the car more pull. If the car is heavier, it will normally need more torque. If the engine can't move the car, then thats bad. Horse power gives it... well.. power, power to exceed speeds.

[Ascendent]

I'm glad at the direction this thread has taken.

[ChicagoB5]

If Torque was all that mattered then Electric Cars would dominate I would think.

well electric cars have instant torque, but because of the batteries they also weigh a good amount.

As for the topic id say torque makes for a much more fun driving experience. My s4 makes about 360 hp and 380 tq and first gear pulls are really fun with all the torque.

that being said, weight is really important! 300 ftlb/tq in a 3300 lb car feels alot more different than 300 ftlb/tq in a 2500 lb car.

[Mj23foreva]

tiresssssssssssssssss

[OliverClozov]

power:weight ratio

[fishoildick]

Here's my shat box:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMH_8Q1Md5Y

lol holy sh!t

[Pauly-Walnuts]

lol holy sh!t

It's fun, cant wait to get back in it and go a little faster this round.

[jz36]

MKIII Supra is considered a ricer but its stock hp/torq is 230/240. Mines not stock so im not sure what im pushing

[Pauly-Walnuts]

MKIII Supra is considered a ricer but its stock hp/torq is 230/240. Mines not stock so im not sure what im pushing

In my circle we do not look down on Supra's its a great platform if you know what you are doing. Ricer is someone who thinks their crap is fast with stupid mods like a frat cannon and intake. Sorry your 1994 Civic is not fast with those mods. I actually had a kid say he'd smoke me with a set up like this, his logic was my car was automatic, WTF?????