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    any benefit going higher than 1.5g/lb bodyweight protein?

    im 6ft and weigh 152lbs, currently trying to gain mass obviously.

    Currently my intake is as follows:

    protein: 253.9g
    carbs:210g
    fat:62.6g

    1.5 x 152 = 228g of protein, yet i have much more than this. Tbh i dont even think about it now and it feels normal for me to have this amount.

    Is this utterly pointless, and would i get the same gains eating 228g?

    if so, im not sure which .i should upto compoensate; fat or carbs.

    any thoughts?
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    that is even too much protein, add more carbs and fat and packing on mass will be much easier.
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    Originally Posted by jamie93 View Post
    im 6ft and weigh 152lbs, currently trying to gain mass obviously.

    Currently my intake is as follows:

    protein: 253.9g
    carbs:210g
    fat:62.6g

    1.5 x 152 = 228g of protein, yet i have much more than this. Tbh i dont even think about it now and it feels normal for me to have this amount.

    Is this utterly pointless, and would i get the same gains eating 228g?

    if so, im not sure which .i should upto compoensate; fat or carbs.

    any thoughts?

    On a bulk you can get by on less then 1.5g of protein, I would be around 175g and up your fats to around 75g and fill the rest with carbs.
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    How long have you been on this diet? We have similar heights and that is roughly my diet to maintain 165lb but to get there I "bulked" to 176lb then cut down. When bulking I was averaging about 3,000cals a day. Now I go for 2,000.
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    Originally Posted by chargrill44 View Post
    How long have you been on this diet? We have similar heights and that is roughly my diet to maintain 165lb but to get there I "bulked" to 176lb then cut down. When bulking I was averaging about 3,000cals a day. Now I go for 2,000.
    well i gain fat easily.. as i found when i was taking in around 2800 cals a day. im doing starting strength and when i was taking in that amount i gained like 3lb a week lmao.. (fat obvs)

    so yeah this seems to be about right for me now, perhaps could go abit higher. should i up fats or carbs?
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    Originally Posted by willldabeast View Post
    that is even too much protein, add more carbs and fat and packing on mass will be much easier.
    really? i thought mass = cal surplus wherever it came from? are you saying protein is less likely to add mass to me?
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    Originally Posted by Last2WalK View Post
    On a bulk you can get by on less then 1.5g of protein, I would be around 175g and up your fats to around 75g and fill the rest with carbs.
    really? humm. well ive been getting by on this level so far, i dont think i would go that low. i may reduce it to 1.5 in that case. thanks
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    i go around 1.6-7. i find it that my muscles recovers a lil faster.
    I thought i was bulking up. 65kg - 64.4kg in a week
    Tired of this.
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    Originally Posted by jrsonico View Post
    i go around 1.6-7. i find it that my muscles recovers a lil faster.
    see now i just dont know any more lol :s
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    1g is more than enough, 1.5g is the max anyone should go.

    Lyle Mcdonald recommeded going above 1.5 only if you're on AAS.
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    Total calories, fat and carbs are too low.

    For your age and current size 2800 is the ballpark to gain lean mass, you appear to take in roughly 2400 calories if my pathetic math skills have not failed me after glancing at your macros.

    Don't worry about protein possibly being too high. Better too high than too low! I found that my recovery is CLEARLY and OBVIOUSLY better when I take in 1.5g/lb rather than 1g/lb. So you're fine.
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    Originally Posted by kusok View Post
    Total calories, fat and carbs are too low.

    For your age and current size 2800 is the ballpark to gain lean mass, you appear to take in roughly 2400 calories if my pathetic math skills have not failed me after glancing at your macros.

    Don't worry about protein possibly being too high. Better too high than too low! I found that my recovery is CLEARLY and OBVIOUSLY better when I take in 1.5g/lb rather than 1g/lb. So you're fine.
    its just i gain fat really easily so i was being conservative with my cals.

    how about these macros?

    protein: 250g
    carbs:228g
    Fat:65g

    i have upped fat and carbs and dropped protein slightly.
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    Originally Posted by jamie93 View Post
    its just i gain fat really easily so i was being conservative with my cals.

    how about these macros?

    protein: 250g
    carbs:228g
    Fat:65g

    i have upped fat and carbs and dropped protein slightly.

    It should be fine provided you're gaining about 1lbs every 2 weeks or so. If you gain more or less than that, simply adjust your total caloric intake.
    Considering you're skinny (right?) I would also think 1lb per week initial gain goal should be ok until you start noticing fat gain, then drop calories back down to gaining at a slower pace to minimize fat gain.
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    Originally Posted by kusok View Post
    It should be fine provided you're gaining about 1lbs every 2 weeks or so. If you gain more or less than that, simply adjust your total caloric intake.
    Considering you're skinny (right?) I would also think 1lb per week initial gain goal should be ok until you start noticing fat gain, then drop calories back down to gaining at a slower pace to minimize fat gain.
    this is exactly what happened to begin with. i ate too much (unfortunately, not 100% sure on how much lol :/ but i was gaining like 3lbs a week without even noticing it (i only weighed myself at weekends) i thought it was noob gains at first but it continued for like 3 weeks and i realised i put on a shed load of fat. i put my bf% from about 7% (i was anorexic last yr and lost loads of muscle) at 138lbs to id guess about 13% (what it is now) at 152lbs. I think i gained a little muscle but mainly fat.

    this is why im conservative with my cals.
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    Ok you upped fat by 3 grams and lowered protein by 4? your still not gettin it bro, go 75 g of fat, 275 carbs, 200 g protein.
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    I eat more protein than is recommended too. I just prefer meat to bread/rice/etc... My macros today are 293p/248c/81f = 2900kcal

    Am I arrite or is this holdin me back?
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    Originally Posted by jamie93 View Post
    its just i gain fat really easily so i was being conservative with my cals.

    how about these macros?

    protein: 250g
    carbs:228g
    Fat:65g

    i have upped fat and carbs and dropped protein slightly.
    can you please do some maths? 1-1.5g of protein for your bweight in lbs. carbs n fats for the rest of the calories. period. dont make it so complicated.
    I thought i was bulking up. 65kg - 64.4kg in a week
    Tired of this.
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    Originally Posted by leedsjack93 View Post
    I eat more protein than is recommended too. I just prefer meat to bread/rice/etc... My macros today are 293p/248c/81f = 2900kcal

    Am I arrite or is this holdin me back?
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    Originally Posted by leedsjack93 View Post
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    imo as long as your hitting your macros for protein and fats, its fine to go over in whatever you want. its only recommened that you do it in carbs as they provide energy thus fuelling your workouts or whatever else you do. it all boils down to cal intake as to whether you gain/lose weight, but you need a certain amount of fat and protein. carbs you dont.
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