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Thread: The Race to a Six-Plate Deadlift
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05-31-2010, 09:43 PM #91
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05-31-2010, 09:45 PM #92
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Current PR's (6/1/10):
_Jordo: 225
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Basely: 375x2
Ironlife: 420
acm807: 425
Musicality: 425
400Lb Gorilla: 405x3
Scurn: 440
Jrahe: 450
Blizzard589: 465
Wick: 440x5
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05-31-2010, 09:55 PM #93
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05-31-2010, 10:36 PM #94
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225x5, 315x1, 365x1, 405x1, 495x1 IMO.
I'm never doing multiple reps with more than 60% of my 1RM again on max days. I tried to "warm up" with 315x8 followed by 365x4 the other day, and realized that I had completely burnt myself out by the time I got to 405.
Might as well try it. It's also good to do some back arches and dynamic toe touches beforehand to loosen up your hammies (e.g. stand with your hands up, and touch each hand to the opposing foot before standing back up and repeating with the other side).Training, philosophy, nutrition and biomedical discussion (2.0): http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=146797403
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05-31-2010, 10:48 PM #95
Thanks, man. I was thinking along the same lines. Definitely nothing but singles after 3 plates, that's for sure. I made that mistake as well last time I tried maxing. Good tip on loosening the hammies. I always do some dynamic movements before lifting and tomorrow will definitely be no exception.
I'm so psyched about this I can't even sleep. Drinking some Tazo Lotus decaf tea (with added creatine) to calm my nerves and I'll hit the hay in a minute.Planted like a tree beside the river of truth.
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05-31-2010, 10:51 PM #96
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05-31-2010, 10:59 PM #97
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05-31-2010, 11:08 PM #98
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05-31-2010, 11:49 PM #99
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06-01-2010, 12:16 AM #101
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"Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find a way round or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves…" - Dao de Ching
The biggest secret in life is not that we go through life discovering ourselves but that we go through life creating our selves. Think about that.
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06-01-2010, 12:19 AM #102
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06-01-2010, 12:23 AM #103
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06-01-2010, 01:30 AM #104
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Good luck man! You're exactly like me. I used to psych myself up for benching, but now I honestly couldn't give a crap. Not to say that I don't want it to progress - it's just that squats, deadlifts and even overhead presses have become more important to me.
When I was psyching myself up for my first 300 pound squat last week (ATG, I've gotta say it), I was staying up for 1-2 hours every night just thinking about it. My first four plate deadlift was no different.
Pull that **** tomorrow and pretend I'm there telling you that you're a weak pussy - remember that we will all call you one if you don't pull it. Actually, just give me a call and put me on speaker and I'll curse at you in Russian while you do the lift.
P.S. Why is there creatine in your Tazo?
Nice man - you'll be pulling 3 plates in no time. Just a little advice: drop the stiff-leggeds. You'll benefit more from just deadlifting and squatting. I still don't do stiff-legged deadlifts and my hammies are quite developed just from normal deadlifts alone. If you look at my PR videos, it's because I tend to not use leg drive much, if at all, on my 1RMs. Not necessarily a good thing, but deadlifts REALLY hit your hammies regardless.
Dude, me ****ing too! I go to the gym and just want to plant a camera and have a live feed going to the ****ing post. I'm thinking of trying to deadlift 3x/week once I get back to college, rather than squatting 3x/week. Thinking outside the box is fun.
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Ever lie down with your computer with your legs crossed and find that, despite overall comfort, your nuts are overlapping in an uncomfortable way? I've got pain in my nuts right now but I don't want to move.Training, philosophy, nutrition and biomedical discussion (2.0): http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=146797403
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06-01-2010, 01:40 AM #105
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06-01-2010, 01:51 AM #106
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06-01-2010, 02:09 AM #107
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06-01-2010, 02:23 AM #108
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LOl at the random comment, and yes i get that sometimes usually i dont cross my legs because it hurts too damn much and i end up walking around the next day at work like there is a vice on my groin (no homo) there you go jrahe you wanted the tag now you got one.
This below are in KGs not lbs. Check out how easy the snatch is..
Last edited by Ironlife; 06-01-2010 at 02:34 AM.
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06-01-2010, 05:05 AM #109
Thank you thank you. You are a great motivator. Being cursed at in Russian would allow most people to lift heavy ass weight lol. I'm gonna rip that **** off the ground.
Congrats on the squat and deadlift PRs, man.
I put creatine in my tea because I read somewhere that monohydrate is absorbed better when it is boiled and drank with sugar. It's flavorless Optimum Nutrition Micronized Creatine Monohydrate so it doesn't affect the subtle flavors of the various green teas or the bold robust flavors of the black teas that I enjoy.Planted like a tree beside the river of truth.
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06-01-2010, 08:51 AM #110
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06-01-2010, 09:31 AM #111
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06-01-2010, 10:19 AM #112
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lol. yea, i feel like deadlifting every session no! But then I would be attacked by the rippetoe-ites
I wonder if it would be detrimental in any way to do, say, 1 rep of 90% 1RM, after a 5RM every deadlift day on SS.
Your not still mad are you?!
So you in or out then? Wont matter to me, ill not be catching you up anytime soon!"Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find a way round or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves…" - Dao de Ching
The biggest secret in life is not that we go through life discovering ourselves but that we go through life creating our selves. Think about that.
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06-01-2010, 10:31 AM #113
Excellent Thread for Motivaton so far!
I gotta say, there is definitely something to be said for having the crew here supporting and driving you to hit a weight. At first I thought it wouldn't help much (in my journal), but a few of my buddies that really get me amped and call me out to reach a weight have helped tremendously. Tim (nwskier) and Piero (Wabeer) in particular are always pushing me, and I can hear their voices in my head when I lift yelling at me to stop being a bitch and lift the damn thing. I'll be here to help any of you as well with that.
I'm the nervous energy type when I need to hit a heavy lift. Think doc Norton about 85%. lol. I do the pacing cause I cannot stand still for the life of me. Gotta have the proper itunes shiz to jam too and of course many days previous watching yourself lift that weight in your minds eye. Very important.
Some people can use negative energy well too.....think of your annoying ex-gf who was a buttslut ho and cheated on you, your prick boss, a dad/family member that was abusive....anything to get amped. I'll do some sick mind games to myself....but I tell you what when you're pulling a quarter ton off the fukn floor, do what it takes ya know?
Rock n roll fellas.....PR train comin through this thread.
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06-01-2010, 10:41 AM #114
Not trying to give up too many secrets, but...
....I've found success in a decent sized rotation of leg/dl lifts.
Despite the common once every 6-7 days training for typical bb'ing, there are others ways to structure your training. Im not dissing the typical bb'ing training, I have enjoyed great gains from it too.
It's just the groove of a deadlift or a squat is something that cannot be mastered training it once a week. I think a rotation of 4-5 choice deads and squats and hit them hard, but not to failure once every 3-4 days is beneficial. But also with varying rep ranges, as most of us seem to have bb'ing/muscle size at heart as well as strength.
Something like this:
Session 1: Deadlift from floor (warm-up, then 5 single/doubles, then maybe a burnout set with half of your 1RM for 12-15 reps)
Session 2: Front Squat ATG (warm-up, then 3 sets of 5)
Session 3: Deadlift, Romanian (warm-up, then 2 sets of 6, 2 sets of 12)
Session 4: Back Squat, ATG (warm-up, then 2 sets of 4, 2 sets of 10)
Start over with Session 1
Other notables incluce deficit deads, rack pulls, power clean, good mornings, etc)
Of note: Of course you won't train just one movement on your lower day, I like to add a few kinds of calf raises, heavy weighted low back extensions (hypers), weighted sit ups, step ups or lunges, etc) I seem to do well with the 1 main lift, and 3 other misc ones.
Just hit one movement, wait 3 days and hit the next, and so on. Im not into the whole percentages thing, just train not to failure, hard but not so hard you're sore and dead the next day. If you can DL 405 from the floor, your singles/doubles/burnout set day might look like this: 135x8 warmup, 225x5 acclimation/warmup, 275x2, 335x1, 335x1, 205x12). As the weeks get closer to a PR weight you want to hit (say 450 in this case), then start skipping some of the middle work sets and ramp up higher and higher.
Frequency is a powerful variable, use it.
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06-01-2010, 10:52 AM #115
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06-01-2010, 11:09 AM #116
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06-01-2010, 11:11 AM #117
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I've heard about the sugar, but never boiling... Can you find me that article? I love tea too, but I'd never heard of anyone doing that before.
Your bodyspace, bitch.
I just have to pull my nuts forward when I do that. If they go back, it's a little pinchy feeling.
Try it some time. Just take your dick, and pull it forward. The nuts will follow, and you can make them get away from your leg if you want to. Just pretend your fingers are a spatula.
It wouldn't be detrimental. Starting Strength is not the "perfect" program everyone says it is. It does the job better than anything else for a beginner because it convinces him that you HAVE to do things the way they are written. With someone that knows what they are doing, I don't see why you couldn't change a few things and get equal or better results. 1-3RMs are all about central nervous system adaptation - the only fear is that a beginner will have more trouble maintaining good form for such weights.
Indeed. I'd love to make a thread on everyone's progress for everything, but it would be a nightmare to read through. That's why it's only about deadlifts. Might make an epic squat thread for everyone involved in this later on.
I never listen to music anymore when lifting... I know it has benefits, considering I was able to run a 5:27 mile with no running training last summer while listening to music (I was 153 pounds). I couldn't repeat within 30 seconds of that time without music.
Really great stuff. My squat, which had been stuck at around 265-275 for four months, SHOT UP when I tried squatting four (yes, four) times a week. I tried adding Smolov's squat cycle into my normal routine before school ended, and it ended up working perfectly. I went from 275x1 ATG to 300x1 ATG in 2.5 weeks, and it was all because of the training frequency.
I'm thinking of trying this split once I get to Florida:
Day 1: Chest
Day 2: OFF
Day 3: 1-2 sets of heavy squats and 1-2 sets of heavy deadlifts followed by LISS cardio
Day 4: LISS cardio
Day 5: Squats, Back
Day 6: HIIT cardio
Day 7: Squats, shoulders, armsTraining, philosophy, nutrition and biomedical discussion (2.0): http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=146797403
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06-01-2010, 11:16 AM #118
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06-01-2010, 11:20 AM #119
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