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    New Coach... New Approach!

    Well after 2 years, I let my old coach Sean Calder go, for a new Coach, IFBB Pro Bleu Taylor. I watched Bleu work his magic with two of my friends and I couldn't help to notice how dramatic the change was.

    Sean will always have my respect and appreciation for how he took my from the amateur stage to the National stage. Yet I have been struggling terribly with loss of appetite and lagging body parts. For that reason, I started interviewing for a new coach.

    Bleu is a student of Hany Rambod a coach who has worked with IFBB pro's Jay Cutler, Phil Heath and many more. Our goal is to bring me into the NPC Masters National in the Super's undeniable.

    I received my diet and training outline today, and it is a totally different approach then any one I've done over the past 5 years. Hany is known for his FST-7 Training Doctrine and almost "Gut feeling" psychology diets.

    I'll do cardio everyday for 20 mins right out of the sack in the morning on an empty tummy to get my body hungry for food.


    Bleu's approach is to get my body craving food again. He'll start by having me eat for breakfast buckwheat or oat flour pancakes and turkey bacon and eggs, and 2 pieces of whole wheat toast!

    Every other day in place of my post workout shake, I'll eat 2 triple meat cheese burgers! This is a technique Hany did on Jay Cutler when he also lost his appetite. Hany sent Jay to In an Out Burger everyday.

    Then feed me Kale, Arugula bitter greens to help stimulate appetite in the afternoon.

    Lots of ground lean beef and hash brown taters. Some veggies. Every three weeks, I check in.

    All in all, it's an awakening for me and I'm pumped to do it! Out with the old and in with the new. Here is a video of Bleu by Shawn Ray.

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    Getting 70s big eating 70s big.....I like it!

    Please tell me you are not putting da PWO cheezeburgers in a shake.....LOL
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    So much for chicken and broccoli, huh? ;-)

    I'm amazed at the seemingly contradictory dietary methods that are employed by body bulders. I'm not disagreeing or trying to be critical, it just amazes that these various diets can be so diametrically opposite from one another.

    It'll interesting to see how this works for you. And I'm sure you'll enjoy every bite!

    (...two triple meat cheeseburgers.... yum, yum!)
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    wow

    feeding 235 pounds of muscle is much different that feeding 180 pounds for sure.

    I've never had a problem with low appetite.

    Is that a common problem with competitors at your level? I can imagine with the volume of food you need to eat it can become a chore at times.
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    Originally Posted by Ed-B View Post
    So much for chicken and broccoli, huh? ;-)

    I'm amazed at the seemingly contradictory dietary methods that are employed by body bulders. I'm not disagreeing or trying to be critical, it just amazes that these various diets can be so diametrically opposite from one another.

    It'll interesting to see how this works for you. And I'm sure you'll enjoy every bite!

    (...two triple meat cheeseburgers.... yum, yum!)
    ^^^ And this is the problem with diet advice. Different strokes for different folks and for different goals and stages of development.

    Looking forward to seeing how this goes for you Ole Sup! Good Luck!
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    Very nice! I can't wait to hear about your new training and how your progress goes.

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    Originally Posted by oldsuperman View Post
    I received my diet and training outline today, and it is a totally different approach then any one I've done over the past 5 years.

    I'll do cardio everyday for 20 mins right out of the sack in the morning on an empty tummy to get my body hungry for food.

    Bleu's approach is to get my body craving food again. He'll start by having me eat for breakfast buckwheat or oat flour pancakes and turkey bacon and eggs, and 2 pieces of whole wheat toast!

    Every other day in place of my post workout shake, I'll eat 2 triple meat cheese burgers! This is a technique Hany did on Jay Cutler when he also lost his appetite. Hany sent Jay to In an Out Burger everyday.

    Then feed me Kale, Arugula bitter greens to help stimulate appetite in the afternoon.

    Lots of ground lean beef and hash brown taters. Some veggies. Every three weeks, I check in.
    good stuff, Ed! if nothing else, this'll defintely shake the dust out of your metabolism!

    How will the lifting compare to what you've been doing?

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    Ed,

    Really curious to see how this works out. I always suffer from low appetite (though my family and friends look at me like I'm eating as a starved man...). Keep us updated.

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    At 1:32 of the video..... I know that eye twitch from experience. It means....

    GET ME WATER AND CARBS NOW!!!!


    Originally Posted by oldsuperman View Post
    I received my diet and training outline today, and it is a totally different approach then any one I've done over the past 5 years. Hany is known for his FST-7 Training Doctrine and almost "Gut feeling" psychology diets.
    Sounds like you are about to wonder over to the "dark Side" Ed.
    This is exactly how I have dieted the past 6 years off season.
    It's the main reason why I don't give much diet advice. I always get too many questions as to why I eat what I do when I do. As you get further into the diet aspects of this style, I'm sure you will see what I'm sayin.

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    Originally Posted by Ed-B View Post
    So much for chicken and broccoli, huh? ;-)

    I'm amazed at the seemingly contradictory dietary methods that are employed by body bulders. I'm not disagreeing or trying to be critical, it just amazes that these various diets can be so diametrically opposite from one another.

    It'll interesting to see how this works for you. And I'm sure you'll enjoy every bite!

    (...two triple meat cheeseburgers.... yum, yum!)
    Oh no. There us plenty of chicken in this diet too. I just hit some of the high lights that differ from my old diet.

    Originally Posted by chodan9 View Post
    wow

    feeding 235 pounds of muscle is much different that feeding 180 pounds for sure.

    I've never had a problem with low appetite.

    Is that a common problem with competitors at your level? I can imagine with the volume of food you need to eat it can become a chore at times.
    Yes, it can be. I'll be eating low fat gravy and sauces, herbs and spices to help as well.

    Originally Posted by kimsquit View Post
    good stuff, Ed! if nothing else, this'll defintely shake the dust out of your metabolism!

    How will the lifting compare to what you've been doing?

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    I will be doing 2 exercises with the Fst-7 and heavier lower reps. I will be doing some interesting splits as well. Six days of training instead of 5.

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    At 1:32 of the video..... I know that eye twitch from experience. It means....

    GET ME WATER AND CARBS NOW!!!!




    Sounds like you are about to wonder over to the "dark Side" Ed.
    This is exactly how I have dieted the past 6 years off season.
    It's the main reason why I don't give much diet advice. I always get too many questions as to why I eat what I do when I do. As you get further into the diet aspects of this style, I'm sure you will see what I'm sayin.

    Hope it all works out for you man!

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    Watchin the vid now , paused it to come in and say "holy crap" thats the biggest 140 lb guy Ive ever seen
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    Does this mean no more high-rep training, Popps?
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    Gotta eat big to get big (nothing new on that for sure)......lol.......or atleast thats the way it is for most.

    I'm sure you will enjoy the new found cals not to mention more carbs.

    As far as your new coach............I've heard good and bad..........mostly good though. It just depends on the person and what works for them and what does not.

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    Does this mean no more high-rep training, Popps?
    Wondered about that too.
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    Originally Posted by oldsuperman View Post
    Well, Bleu has a nervous condition with the eye thing, yet I'm sure he wanted to eat and drink!
    Had no idea. Now me feelz like shyt.


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    Watchin the vid now , paused it to come in and say "holy crap" thats the biggest 140 lb guy Ive ever seen
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    Originally Posted by IronCharles View Post
    Does this mean no more high-rep training, Popps?
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    Wondered about that too.
    Everyone I've ever known him to train was coached into doing +lbs/-reps.......

    I know three peeps he has trained. Two limped away with a freaking ton of injuries. The other went aways and is still doing great.......

    "If" Popps stays injury free he will do great under him. He's in for a change (as he has already stated himself)..........to say the least.
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    Originally Posted by IronCharles View Post
    Does this mean no more high-rep training, Popps?
    Actually, yes for now. What it is is higher "sets" with the FST-7. Bleu is only 5' 1" btw. He's called the "Super Hobbit"! He's over 200 lbs now and will come into his first pro show in the 170's lbs.
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    Originally Posted by plmb1 View Post
    Everyone I've ever known him to train was coached into doing +lbs/-reps.......

    I know three peeps he has trained. Two limped away with a freaking ton of injuries. The other went aways and is still doing great.......

    "If" Popps stays injury free he will do great under him. He's in for a change (as he has already stated himself)..........to say the least.
    I was thinking EXACTLY this. The higher weights will place stresses and strains on the older body like nothing else

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    Originally Posted by yakabebe View Post
    I was thinking EXACTLY this. The higher weights will place stresses and strains on the older body like nothing else
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    Go kick @$$ Ed....
    Sure I agree - its gonna be a "suck it and see" approach, I bet. But the fact is that just cause one guy in a million (in the vid) gets it done...doesn't change some of the physical realities waiting to be experienced by the rest.

    But yeah...go for it hard and see how you go. Seems Ed had made a conceptual decision that a change had to be made to take it to the next level and this is the one that resonates best with him!

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    Watchin the vid now , paused it to come in and say "holy crap" thats the biggest 140 lb guy Ive ever seen
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    Originally Posted by oldsuperman View Post
    Actually, yes for now. What it is is higher "sets" with the FST-7. Bleu is only 5' 1" btw. He's called the "Super Hobbit"! He's over 200 lbs now and will come into his first pro show in the 170's lbs.

    I was gonna say he looked to be over 200 at the ironman couple weekends ago. But alot leaner then I have seen him in recent years. still couldnt believe he got down to 130 last year. that guy knows what it takes to get shredded!
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    Good luck with the new programme Ed.. we will all be waiting to hear about your journey.

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    I started my first training day last Saturday doing arms. It is the easiest part of the 6 day a week program. It was different then what I have been doing over the last 8 yrs for sure. I was concerned about my joints, especially my elbows and forearms as I've had numerous injuries years ago.

    Bleu said not to let my arms fully stretch out full. As in a preacher curl for example, don't lock out and start to retract. It seemed to work.... so far!

    Monday I did quads with ham and calves pump. I did 4 sets of leg extensions 12 to 15 reps. Leg press, 3/ 8 to 10 reps. Squats, 3/ 8 to 10. Lunges DB, 3/ 8 to 10. Then came the 7 sets of hacks, 8 to 10.

    Then 7 sets of Leg curls, 8 to 10.

    Seated calve raises 3/ 8 to 10

    Toe rises 3/ 8 to 10

    Rest time is 60 to 90 secs between sets with 10 secs of static stretching alternating with flexing the trained muscle group.

    With the 7 set exercises, I do the same stretch and flexing, except I only get 30 sec rest between sets.

    Today I did Chest with a tri pump. Pretty much the same routine, except I didn't want to puke like I did after leg training!

    Tomorrow back and bi pump. Then Thurs Hams with quad pump. Fri delts. Then back to arms again on Sat. It's been hard, yet I'm excited to so the results.
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    Originally Posted by oldsuperman View Post
    Rest time is 60 to 90 secs between sets with 10 secs of static stretching alternating with flexing the trained muscle group.
    Sounds good, man..... that's my routine right there. Maybe a minute rest between sets, and I'm always stretching and flexing while I rest.


    Originally Posted by oldsuperman View Post
    It's been hard, yet I'm excited to so the results.
    A change of pace is always great when your training becomes old and boring. It's cool that you've got a fresh aspect and a new style to kick start your progress.

    Is your new trainer a drill sergeant type, or is he pretty laid back?
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    Originally Posted by oldsuperman View Post
    I started my first training day last Saturday doing arms. It is the easiest part of the 6 day a week program. It was different then what I have been doing over the last 8 yrs for sure. I was concerned about my joints, especially my elbows and forearms as I've had numerous injuries years ago.

    Bleu said not to let my arms fully stretch out full. As in a preacher curl for example, don't lock out and start to retract. It seemed to work.... so far!

    Monday I did quads with ham and calves pump. I did 4 sets of leg extensions 12 to 15 reps. Leg press, 3/ 8 to 10 reps. Squats, 3/ 8 to 10. Lunges DB, 3/ 8 to 10. Then came the 7 sets of hacks, 8 to 10.

    Then 7 sets of Leg curls, 8 to 10.

    Seated calve raises 3/ 8 to 10

    Toe rises 3/ 8 to 10

    Rest time is 60 to 90 secs between sets with 10 secs of static stretching alternating with flexing the trained muscle group.

    With the 7 set exercises, I do the same stretch and flexing, except I only get 30 sec rest between sets.

    Today I did Chest with a tri pump. Pretty much the same routine, except I didn't want to puke like I did after leg training!

    Tomorrow back and bi pump. Then Thurs Hams with quad pump. Fri delts. Then back to arms again on Sat. It's been hard, yet I'm excited to so the results.

    Hello Oldsuperman, are you still working with Bleu Taylor?
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    Wow what a thread necro!
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