Has anyone here tested their workout routine for 3 months without supplements & then with supplements and documented their gains?
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Thread: Supplements vs No Supplements
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05-26-2010, 11:24 AM #1
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01-06-2020, 09:21 AM #2
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01-18-2021, 01:42 AM #4
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02-15-2021, 02:27 AM #5
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02-15-2021, 04:18 AM #6
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I know this is an old thread but it's worth pointing out the flaws in the idea. Real research is done on groups of people - not just one person. This gives you statistical power to actually make a claim that an effect is real and not just happening by chance.
There is usually a control group who does not get the intervention (in this case, that means removing supplements from your regimen). This is to show a difference between groups if any exists.
Finally, the brief it too vague... which supplement are you talking about, you can only test one thing at a time. If it were protein for example, you need to standardise how much protein each person is also getting from food.
Such experimental data often already exists for individual ingredients - especially creatine and protein. Perhaps go to examine.com as a first stop for a supplement research summary.
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02-15-2021, 05:57 AM #7
Here is something to think about as well.
A pioneer in the industry (let’s say a strength and conditioning coach, a nutritionist, etc) who would do their own experimentation on themselves or clients based on personal research.
They try a method (such as a training program) or a supplement or even a drug. They’ll notice a pattern with their clients of progress or success. It becomes empirical evidence but it isn’t statistically significant for the reasons you brought up, we can agree on that.
The late Dan Duchaine was a great example of this when it came to anabolics, mass monsters became common in bodybuilding due to Dans experimentation on himself and clients.
Vince Gironda was way ahead of his time with empirical evidence based on his clients results. He didn’t need a scientific study, the results were there. Later, human trials would prove him right. His research was based many times on trauma victims, he realized bodybuilders were in fact creating a degree of trauma on their bodies and found ways to help them recover: more muscle was the side effect.
There are more I can reference.
If we didn’t have these gents (among many others in their field) we’d never move forward and progress in athletics or bodybuilding. The mass monsters, the super athletes....everyone would do the same old thing.
I have tried specific supplements on myself that have only been proven in rat studies, no human studies yet for example. My blood labs don’t lie.
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02-18-2021, 06:18 AM #8
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02-18-2021, 06:32 AM #9
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02-18-2021, 09:57 AM #10
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02-24-2021, 05:37 AM #11
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