Routine for Strength AND Mass?

[PowerTricks]

It's been more than a year since I started lifting regularily. Engineering is an absolute bitch haha.

Anyway, the last routine that I was supposed to do is below. Assuming I will be starting off fresh, would this be good for a beginner strength and muscle routine? The placement of deadlifts seems a little odd to me so input from you guys would be very much appreciated.

Monday:

-Bench Press: 3x5
-Barbell Row: 3x8
-Skull Crushers: 3x8

Wednesday:

-Squats: 3x5
-Calf Raises: 3x15
-Deadlift: 1x6, or Stiff Legged Deadlift: 5x5

Friday:

-Pull Ups: 3x Maximum
-Overhead Press: 3x5
-Barbell Curls 3x8

[freaky91]

why do you have 2 upper body days and 1 lower?

I dont think that you should be programing your own program just yet. there are plenty of workouts on the main site for you to choose from.

[PowerTricks]

why do you have 2 upper body days and 1 lower?

I dont think that you should be programing your own program just yet. there are plenty of workouts on the main site for you to choose from.

I can't find any programs on the main site that are geared for both. Either strength or muscle.

[Jippo]

In the initial phases of training strength training and a calorie surplus is all you need. What do you think happens when you take your squats to 400lbs and your bench to 300lbs? Do you think it's just determination that pushes that extra weight or muscle? Just lift heavy and eat and you can figure out the minutae when it becomes necessary.

[matjusm]

I can't find any programs on the main site that are geared for both. Either strength or muscle.

You are completely wrong. The only one drawing a line between strength and mass is you.
But in reality the two go hand in hand. Why else do you think there are weight categories in Olympic weightlifting and powerlifting? Because bigger guys are stronger guys, bigger muscles are stronger muscles.
Either way, gaining mass has very little to do with choosing one routine over another. It is about eating and eating loads, thats where your mass comes from.

[Hut*Hut]

I can't find any programs on the main site that are geared for both. Either strength or muscle.

As a beginner there's NO real difference between the two. All the beginner programs are a mix of strength and mass.

[2020Wellness]

Growth Stimulus Training, learn it.

[PowerTricks]

You are completely wrong. The only one drawing a line between strength and mass is you.
But in reality the two go hand in hand. Why else do you think there are weight categories in Olympic weightlifting and powerlifting? Because bigger guys are stronger guys, bigger muscles are stronger muscles.
Either way, gaining mass has very little to do with choosing one routine over another. It is about eating and eating loads, thats where your mass comes from.

As a beginner there's NO real difference between the two. All the beginner programs are a mix of strength and mass.

Guys, I didn't mean you can only have one or the other. What I meant was the programs I've seen were geared for either strength, or geared for muscle.

But I'll take your words for it.

[Engineer_Guy]

It's been more than a year since I started lifting regularily. Engineering is an absolute bitch haha.

Anyway, the last routine that I was supposed to do is below. Assuming I will be starting off fresh, would this be good for a beginner strength and muscle routine? The placement of deadlifts seems a little odd to me so input from you guys would be very much appreciated.

Monday:

-Bench Press: 3x5
-Barbell Row: 3x8
-Skull Crushers: 3x8

Wednesday:

-Squats: 3x5
-Calf Raises: 3x15
-Deadlift: 1x6, or Stiff Legged Deadlift: 5x5

Friday:

-Pull Ups: 3x Maximum
-Overhead Press: 3x5
-Barbell Curls 3x8

Hello fellow engineer.

Routine I follow: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=4195843
Rippetoe's is also good for strength training.

Mass gains will depend on your diet. Eat a large caloric surplus and you'll gain mass.