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    Originally Posted by El Elyon View Post
    It's good info and all that but there's just one thing:

    Over-analysation!

    Looking into things toooo much will **** you up. I've been there and done that. I've tried every method that was in the 'seduction Community'. Was in that community for over 3 years.

    No matter how much you read or how much you follow any advice, if she isn't physically attracted to you then there is NOTHING you can do. All these techniques are just a layer of a cake. If you haven't got the base sorted (i.e your looks) then you're making the cake from upwards>downwards and you'll never reach the bottom.

    Good looks are made and not always traits that people have been born with. Concentrate on looking good and then go and talk to women without rushing things. You will get laid, guarrenteed!
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    Originally Posted by trwilli24 View Post
    repped. for speaking sense.
    Awesome thread. Favorited. However, I agree over-analyzing things would just make things worst. I am, however, the worst AFC with the worst case of ONE-itis ever. Guess gotta learn to up my game.
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    Originally Posted by El Elyon View Post
    It's good info and all that but there's just one thing:

    Over-analysation!

    Looking into things toooo much will **** you up. I've been there and done that. I've tried every method that was in the 'seduction Community'. Was in that community for over 3 years.

    No matter how much you read or how much you follow any advice, if she isn't physically attracted to you then there is NOTHING you can do. All these techniques are just a layer of a cake. If you haven't got the base sorted (i.e your looks) then you're making the cake from upwards>downwards and you'll never reach the bottom.

    Good looks are made and not always traits that people have been born with. Concentrate on looking good and then go and talk to women without rushing things. You will get laid, guarrenteed!
    true..if you are ugly as **** cuzz then lord help you (or just get filthy rich)
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    wow amazing thread OP, will read more later..
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    always been a lurker around misc and rh for years and finally decided to make an account. re-read the whole thing and was just as great as the first time I read it.
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    just read OP's entire post. i reccommend that everyone read's it

    my mindset on women has comepletely changed

    i always get looks but just bertstare in retrurn
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    Holy ****. Best advice i've ever heard. Subbed.

    So with the teasing and physical contact thing, is tickling a good method? I would tickle this one girl I was trying to get with, (like on the hips/stomach) and she seemed to be ok with it, and I really made her laugh. I hooked up with her later that night, did I just get lucky or can tickling help tease her and such?
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    Originally Posted by kpwrestler4 View Post
    Holy ****. Best advice i've ever heard. Subbed.

    So with the teasing and physical contact thing, is tickling a good method? I would tickle this one girl I was trying to get with, (like on the hips/stomach) and she seemed to be ok with it, and I really made her laugh. I hooked up with her later that night, did I just get lucky or can tickling help tease her and such?
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    Do it. Always have an excuse to touch girls.
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    Originally Posted by Fire8085 View Post
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    Tickling=success.jpg

    Do it. Always have an excuse to touch girls.
    Ok, thanks. That was the answer I was looking for.
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    SH + coal, I have a question that I'm sure others do as well. What if there's a girl that you became friends with and got a gf still being friends, but never thinking of her like that, and only building comfort for nearly a year but then decide that you want her. But at this point she "doesn't think of you that way" at this point is it too late to get her, or is there a possibility to shatter this?

    Also tips on more school help haha.

    Thanks a lot, great posts from you both and reps=).


    Edit: also when girls excuse the idea of getting with you because of you being with her friend, is that all it is? An excuse? Or is there a way around it? Or is it just the way it is, no ifs ands or buts? Thanks again =D
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    I have a question:

    When talking to girls, I usually can make lot of small talking. I can be cocky and funny and talk freely. My biggest problem is to make the conversation get into seduction, if someone know what I mean.

    It always seems like I'm the party host or some kind of clown that interact and can entertain people, but can't get the girls.

    How can I shift the gears of the conversation?

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    I <3 you guys

    Like others have said, texting info and more school help would be awsome

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    Question

    I have a gf for 4 years things are getting really serious. I was wondering is it a good idea to talk to other girls like this , and maybe spark some jealousy from her so she doesn't think she has me tied down? Is that a good idear
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    Originally Posted by drangel254 View Post
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    I have a gf for 4 years things are getting really serious. I was wondering is it a good idea to talk to other girls like this , and maybe spark some jealousy from her so she doesn't think she has me tied down? Is that a good idear
    Yea, if you want to get dumped on the street..
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    Also, what shows are there to watch? I dont know any and when i searched blind date and fifth wheel to record nothing showed up, what are some good dating shows to watch?
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    read first 5 will read rest later good **** man repped
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    Approach 5 random girls everyday for a week that are between 1-5 on looks. Start a conversation with
    them about ANYTHING!! Notice how your not intimadated by them AT ALL?? Talking to these girls and being
    confident is easy. Why? Because you know your better than them. That should be the mentality you have
    with EVERY GIRL!! Anyway, your focus isn't even to get their numbers or fuk them,
    its to become comfortable in front of girls in general.
    This is SO true. Its so much easier to talk to ugly chicks. Hopefully this year that will change

    good read OP, still have a lot to read though haha. Long as fuk but it should help me
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    Originally Posted by Adimi24 View Post
    Also, what shows are there to watch? I dont know any and when i searched blind date and fifth wheel to record nothing showed up, what are some good dating shows to watch?
    you can just check out the reality shows on mtv & vh1. also, theres a newer show called dating in the dark, and an old show called the pickup artist, that you can watch on hulu.com. (the guy on the pickup artist is kind of a tool but he has some good ideas.)
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    read this 4 years ago on the other bb board; this stuff is golden.

    I was in a 2 years relationship that ended about a year ago; been struggling to get back in the game. Long term relationships absolutely destroy your PUA skills; I'd forgotten most of these tactics- they are easy to forget when you don't put them into practice.

    Dude, thank you for resurrecting this thread!!
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    surprised there isn't more replies advice is golden

    maybe thread title is throwing people off?
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    hey guys,

    just came across this thread today. gotta say, good advice op. i got alittle story of my own which im still workin on atm, here goes.

    2 Weeks ago, i booked the wed/thursday/friday off work to give me 5 days off. On the wed i went into the local supermarket with my mom, stopped at the food court and walked over to a stall. The chick serving was from the uk, as am i and we started talkin askin where each other was from nd how were both goin on in new country, i closed with 'once i've finished my meal i'll come over n get your number". anyway got her number (she wrote it down on pad while all he workmates had a suprised chuckle that she was giving it out). i took this as a good sign that she doesn't usually do this. clean girl HIGH FIIIVE!.

    I wait till the evening before i text, letting her know i've been out n busy all day. she replies within the hour saying the usual "hi, how r ya?". we exchange texts a few times with couple of hour gaps sometimes between each on the thursday and friday. i tell her on one of the friday texts im meeting with a friend and she shud come out, she said yer ok ill bring a friend too. (major props deserved here i reckon for whats about to come) about 2hours before i ring her and say my mate had cancelled due to him being called into work and is she still up for it. she says yer deffo ill call my friend and tell her not to bother with tonight and then she proceeds to say "we can catch a movie if i want?". to which i stop her dead in tracks and say "nah, we'll go for drinks i dont enjoy sitting there not talking on a first date...".

    I pick her up and everything goes well, she was straight onto the pay seperate thing for the drinks. to which i said ill get first ones she can buy the 2nd round.convo goes well we stayed forthe 2 drinks bout an hour and half losiong track of time talkin bout the move over to australia etc...
    I say we better go or you'll be stuck with me all night cos i wont be able to drive if i have anymore.

    On the way home bout 0.5km from her house i go over a nail, and lost the lock nut for my wheels. >.< doh!. I walk her home, give the good night hug n **** n i get a lift home. Both havin abit of a chuckle, i'd like to think i played it off well HAHA. all was good.
    On way home i get the txt "thanks for a lovely night, give us a txt when ur home x".

    At this point im thinking, everythings cool.

    Couple days later i phoned her, gave her the low down on what was deffo up with my car about the nail, we chuckle some more. But as i try to cut it short and ask her out she sorta just talks over me. I say bye and **** and about 20mins after call im led in bed and i get a txt. "hey, just a quick txt. Im not really after getting into a relationship just yet with everything that's going on. I'd prefer if we kept it as mates for now. im just really busy at the min doing what i wanna do. dont wanna lead you on".
    So cos im like half asleep i just say "yer, no worries. speak to ya tomorrow x"

    Played it semi cool, didnt text all day and i got a phone call after work from her. while i was driving home, she says "she was calling to apologise because she was being selfish" to which i reply with "were both adults, rather your upfront with me". sora end convo there and didnt hear from her ill friday.

    We txt on friday and her folks were out, she invites me round we play pool im still joking around with her she wanted to show me her room so i was like "taking me to the bedroom already!?". stuff like that. her folks come home, we talk for bout n hour with those. She then turned round to her folks and said "you gunna go to bed then now r wot?" they did...
    We lay on floor and put the hangover on, she basically didnt even bother watching the film and sorta starting talkin to me laying on stomach staring at me with sum major fk me eyes. I got up an said right its time to go... hug and home. in car i get a text, "had another lovely night, txt me when ur home x"

    MIXED SIGNALS much!?
    i think i did the right thing.

    Then the sunday, i was nursing a hangover and offered her to the movies... she declined at first and said she was tired n that i need the rest cos of hangover. I joked that off n said i was going regardless cos i wanna see this particular film. bout 45mins later i get a txt saying "ive just been for a run, im wide awake now ill come down" gave her time pf film she said she'd meet there. i offered to collect her she declined that. watched movie, the got same as before "loverly night glad i came out enjoyed the movie, txt me when ur home x".
    i left it that night and txt'd her monday saying "yer i enjoyed it too, good luk training for the comp this weekend x".



    Now i reckon im in a prime position to possibly progress further, sorry for the novel. but what do u guys reckon?
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    ****ing lol'd at OP writing an entire book to pick up chicks. It is really not rocket science, it's rather quite simple.
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    ****ing lol'd at OP writing an entire book to pick up chicks. It is really not rocket science, it's rather quite simple.
    im sure this helped a lot of people and if you didn't need help then what are you doing in RH anyways op didn't right a book it's a re-post there is some good material in here
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    Originally Posted by DonVitoCorleone View Post
    hey guys,

    just came across this thread today. gotta say, good advice op. i got alittle story of my own which im still workin on atm, here goes.

    2 Weeks ago, i booked the wed/thursday/friday off work to give me 5 days off. On the wed i went into the local supermarket with my mom, stopped at the food court and walked over to a stall. The chick serving was from the uk, as am i and we started talkin askin where each other was from nd how were both goin on in new country, i closed with 'once i've finished my meal i'll come over n get your number". anyway got her number (she wrote it down on pad while all he workmates had a suprised chuckle that she was giving it out). i took this as a good sign that she doesn't usually do this. clean girl HIGH FIIIVE!.

    I wait till the evening before i text, letting her know i've been out n busy all day. she replies within the hour saying the usual "hi, how r ya?". we exchange texts a few times with couple of hour gaps sometimes between each on the thursday and friday. i tell her on one of the friday texts im meeting with a friend and she shud come out, she said yer ok ill bring a friend too. (major props deserved here i reckon for whats about to come) about 2hours before i ring her and say my mate had cancelled due to him being called into work and is she still up for it. she says yer deffo ill call my friend and tell her not to bother with tonight and then she proceeds to say "we can catch a movie if i want?". to which i stop her dead in tracks and say "nah, we'll go for drinks i dont enjoy sitting there not talking on a first date...".

    I pick her up and everything goes well, she was straight onto the pay seperate thing for the drinks. to which i said ill get first ones she can buy the 2nd round.convo goes well we stayed forthe 2 drinks bout an hour and half losiong track of time talkin bout the move over to australia etc...
    I say we better go or you'll be stuck with me all night cos i wont be able to drive if i have anymore.

    On the way home bout 0.5km from her house i go over a nail, and lost the lock nut for my wheels. >.< doh!. I walk her home, give the good night hug n **** n i get a lift home. Both havin abit of a chuckle, i'd like to think i played it off well HAHA. all was good.
    On way home i get the txt "thanks for a lovely night, give us a txt when ur home x".

    At this point im thinking, everythings cool.

    Couple days later i phoned her, gave her the low down on what was deffo up with my car about the nail, we chuckle some more. But as i try to cut it short and ask her out she sorta just talks over me. I say bye and **** and about 20mins after call im led in bed and i get a txt. "hey, just a quick txt. Im not really after getting into a relationship just yet with everything that's going on. I'd prefer if we kept it as mates for now. im just really busy at the min doing what i wanna do. dont wanna lead you on".
    So cos im like half asleep i just say "yer, no worries. speak to ya tomorrow x"

    Played it semi cool, didnt text all day and i got a phone call after work from her. while i was driving home, she says "she was calling to apologise because she was being selfish" to which i reply with "were both adults, rather your upfront with me". sora end convo there and didnt hear from her ill friday.

    We txt on friday and her folks were out, she invites me round we play pool im still joking around with her she wanted to show me her room so i was like "taking me to the bedroom already!?". stuff like that. her folks come home, we talk for bout n hour with those. She then turned round to her folks and said "you gunna go to bed then now r wot?" they did...
    We lay on floor and put the hangover on, she basically didnt even bother watching the film and sorta starting talkin to me laying on stomach staring at me with sum major fk me eyes. I got up an said right its time to go... hug and home. in car i get a text, "had another lovely night, txt me when ur home x"

    MIXED SIGNALS much!?
    i think i did the right thing.

    Then the sunday, i was nursing a hangover and offered her to the movies... she declined at first and said she was tired n that i need the rest cos of hangover. I joked that off n said i was going regardless cos i wanna see this particular film. bout 45mins later i get a txt saying "ive just been for a run, im wide awake now ill come down" gave her time pf film she said she'd meet there. i offered to collect her she declined that. watched movie, the got same as before "loverly night glad i came out enjoyed the movie, txt me when ur home x".
    i left it that night and txt'd her monday saying "yer i enjoyed it too, good luk training for the comp this weekend x".



    Now i reckon im in a prime position to possibly progress further, sorry for the novel. but what do u guys reckon?
    2 solid dates/hangouts and you havent kissed her yet.. dude she showed you her freakin room and yall were home alone.

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    Originally Posted by DonVitoCorleone View Post
    hey guys,

    just came across this thread today. gotta say, good advice op. i got alittle story of my own which im still workin on atm, here goes.

    2 Weeks ago, i booked the wed/thursday/friday off work to give me 5 days off. On the wed i went into the local supermarket with my mom, stopped at the food court and walked over to a stall. The chick serving was from the uk, as am i and we started talkin askin where each other was from nd how were both goin on in new country, i closed with 'once i've finished my meal i'll come over n get your number". anyway got her number (she wrote it down on pad while all he workmates had a suprised chuckle that she was giving it out). i took this as a good sign that she doesn't usually do this. clean girl HIGH FIIIVE!.

    Nice, good close, built rapport, showed confidence, perfect.

    I wait till the evening before i text, letting her know i've been out n busy all day. she replies within the hour saying the usual "hi, how r ya?". we exchange texts a few times with couple of hour gaps sometimes between each on the thursday and friday. i tell her on one of the friday texts im meeting with a friend and she shud come out, she said yer ok ill bring a friend too. (major props deserved here i reckon for whats about to come) about 2hours before i ring her and say my mate had cancelled due to him being called into work and is she still up for it. she says yer deffo ill call my friend and tell her not to bother with tonight and then she proceeds to say "we can catch a movie if i want?". to which i stop her dead in tracks and say "nah, we'll go for drinks i dont enjoy sitting there not talking on a first date...".

    Another good movie, your taking the lead as you should and she's definitely interested.

    I pick her up and everything goes well, she was straight onto the pay seperate thing for the drinks. to which i said ill get first ones she can buy the 2nd round.convo goes well we stayed forthe 2 drinks bout an hour and half losiong track of time talkin bout the move over to australia etc...
    I say we better go or you'll be stuck with me all night cos i wont be able to drive if i have anymore.

    Leave her wanting more, again another solid move for a first date. Truth be told I don't stick to this rule hard-core depending on the situation. If I know I can close right then and there, I'll go for it. Should be a case by case basis in the future.

    On the way home bout 0.5km from her house i go over a nail, and lost the lock nut for my wheels. >.< doh!. I walk her home, give the good night hug n **** n i get a lift home. Both havin abit of a chuckle, i'd like to think i played it off well HAHA. all was good.
    On way home i get the txt "thanks for a lovely night, give us a txt when ur home x".

    At this point im thinking, everythings cool.

    Couple days later i phoned her, gave her the low down on what was deffo up with my car about the nail, we chuckle some more. But as i try to cut it short and ask her out she sorta just talks over me. I say bye and **** and about 20mins after call im led in bed and i get a txt. "hey, just a quick txt. Im not really after getting into a relationship just yet with everything that's going on. I'd prefer if we kept it as mates for now. im just really busy at the min doing what i wanna do. dont wanna lead you on".
    So cos im like half asleep i just say "yer, no worries. speak to ya tomorrow x"

    Ignore her words, only watch her actions to know her true intentions. If I could tell you how many times I met a girl, hooked up with her on the first night and she'd come at me with something like: "I don't usually do that on the first night." or "I'm not that kind of girl" blah blah blah....

    Women are illogical by nature, so trying to listen to what they say and then make sense of their actions is like trying to put a square peg in a circle... your not gonna get very far.

    All she's really saying with that text is "slow down, I like you and want to see where this goes." Avoid the constant text back and forth, its okay if you don't talk to her for a day or two. Think of it as an old car; you start it up, its gotta warm up for a few minutes before its ready to go. If you move to fast you can fuvk up the engine (girl loses interest), if you go too too slow, it won't be fun (she'll friend zone you).



    Played it semi cool, didnt text all day and i got a phone call after work from her. while i was driving home, she says "she was calling to apologise because she was being selfish" to which i reply with "were both adults, rather your upfront with me". sora end convo there and didnt hear from her ill friday.

    In other words: "I hope you didn't think my text from last night meant I didn't like you, cuz I do, but I'm a confused woman so I say stupid $hit from time to time.

    We txt on friday and her folks were out, she invites me round we play pool im still joking around with her she wanted to show me her room so i was like "taking me to the bedroom already!?". stuff like that. her folks come home, we talk for bout n hour with those. She then turned round to her folks and said

    "you gunna go to bed then now r wot?" they did...We lay on floor and put the hangover on, she basically didnt even bother watching the film and sorta starting talkin to me laying on stomach staring at me with sum major fk me eyes. I got up an said right its time to go... hug and home. in car i get a text, "had another lovely night, txt me when ur home "

    [B}Here's your mistake!!!! Your at her house, she's giving you the star gaze, you need to step up to the plate and HOOK UP!!! LOL She's making it SO EASY for you and your too concerned with doing everything right and following the rules. Not getting physical with a girl when she puts herself out there, will lead you to the friend zone 9 times out of 10![/B]


    MIXED SIGNALS much!?
    i think i did the right thing.

    Your giving HER mixed signals by always being down to go out and then NOT kissing her.


    Then the sunday, i was nursing a hangover and offered her to the movies... she declined at first and said she was tired n that i need the rest cos of hangover. I joked that off n said i was going regardless cos i wanna see this particular film. bout 45mins later i get a txt saying "ive just been for a run, im wide awake now ill come down" gave her time pf film she said she'd meet there. i offered to collect her she declined that. watched movie, the got same as before "loverly night glad i came out enjoyed the movie, txt me when ur home x".
    i left it that night and txt'd her monday saying "yer i enjoyed it too, good luk training for the comp this weekend x".



    Now i reckon im in a prime position to possibly progress further, sorry for the novel. but what do u guys reckon?

    You are DANGEROUSLY close to being in the friend zone if you don't make a move on this girl soon! She's interested, the only thing left for her to do is make a card board sign and hold it over her head with it saying: I LIKE YOU, PLEASE KISS ME NOW!"





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    I have a gf for 4 years things are getting really serious. I was wondering is it a good idea to talk to other girls like this , and maybe spark some jealousy from her so she doesn't think she has me tied down? Is that a good idear

    Having a serious gf doesn't mean you can't talk to other girls and flirt a bit. Its always good to keep the knife sharp so to speak. The key to this is to do it in a not so "I'm trying to make you jealous" sort of way.

    Could be something as simple as talking to a hot chick at the mall in a store, a waitress, a girl you haven't seen in a while. Again you don't OVERTLY do this, but you do it and your gf will obviously notice and ask you about the girl.

    Its a good thing to do from time to time..... keeps interest high.





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    Also, what shows are there to watch? I dont know any and when i searched blind date and fifth wheel to record nothing showed up, what are some good dating shows to watch?

    Yeah those shows aren't on TV anymore. But a good one to watch is "Keys to the VIP." I think its a Canadian show, but it is REALLY good to teach you how to approach, close, and be confident in a bar/club setting.

    Just Google it. Also any reality show is good to watch (I personally can't stand most of them) to see the dynamic between different girls and guys. You can always tell within 2 minutes who's the strong confident guy and who's the chump.




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    Originally Posted by coolfreitas View Post
    SH + coal, I have a question that I'm sure others do as well. What if there's a girl that you became friends with and got a gf still being friends, but never thinking of her like that, and only building comfort for nearly a year but then decide that you want her. But at this point she "doesn't think of you that way" at this point is it too late to get her, or is there a possibility to shatter this?

    Also tips on more school help haha.

    Thanks a lot, great posts from you both and reps=).


    Edit: also when girls excuse the idea of getting with you because of you being with her friend, is that all it is? An excuse? Or is there a way around it? Or is it just the way it is, no ifs ands or buts? Thanks again =D

    I was actually in that EXACT situation a few years back, except the girl always wanted me even though she would say were just friends now. It really depends on the situation because if you two become too "friendly" there could be a loss of attraction on her part. In my situation the girl never lost attraction for me and after I broke up my gf, I had a little fling with her... (ahh the memories! haha)

    If your attracted to her, treat her like a girl you just met, tease her, flirt with her, seduce her.

    Not sure I get your last question: Are you asking what happens when a girl denys you because you've already hooked up with her friend? If so, in some circles, girls are tight with each other and have pacts not to get "sloppy seconds" or go where their friend has been, especially if you dated the girl seriously.

    Sometimes its a smoke screen, sometimes its not.... depends on the history of the situation.




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    Originally Posted by El Elyon View Post
    It's good info and all that but there's just one thing:

    Over-analysation!

    Looking into things toooo much will **** you up. I've been there and done that. I've tried every method that was in the 'seduction Community'. Was in that community for over 3 years.

    No matter how much you read or how much you follow any advice, if she isn't physically attracted to you then there is NOTHING you can do. All these techniques are just a layer of a cake. If you haven't got the base sorted (i.e your looks) then you're making the cake from upwards>downwards and you'll never reach the bottom.

    Good looks are made and not always traits that people have been born with. Concentrate on looking good and then go and talk to women without rushing things. You will get laid, guarrenteed!

    Good post and I agree with 90% of it.


    The part about sorting out the base, good looks etc is VERY TRUE, BUT to get good with women involves SO MUCH MORE than looking good. The better looking you are the easier it is to get the INITIAL ATTENTION. However if you don't have a solid personality, good social skills know how to lead a conversation,think quick on your feet and make her laugh you'll get no where.




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