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    Thanks to op.. I've been wanting to read these again but they have been gone for ages! I just broke up with a girl, this will definitely boost my confidence.
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    ok thanks for the advice. it went ok, not great. dont think i would have got a number. tbh i forgot to think about what to say. i didnt think past the approach lol. still one more to add to the pile of lessons and even though i might have sounded like a cock she was prety nice so i guess that add to the 'it dosnt matter if it dont work first time' mentality. openers are what i really struggle on. also a section on txting would be nice as it is a ****ing deathtrap. use cocky/sarcastic humor there and you are ****ed . its also almost impossible to have a naturaly flowing conversation. should i just avoid texting as much as possible?

    also we all know females are pack animals is it possible to approach a girl in a group?

    lastly what can you do if you cant think of anything to say if you go up to someone and say hi. and all they say back is hi then whats your next move. like i said im fine with conversations. just not starting them.
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    Great read man, think i've been a major afc with this chick im after lol. Some real helpful stuff in there.
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    Originally Posted by bowlie View Post
    ok thanks for the advice. it went ok, not great. dont think i would have got a number. tbh i forgot to think about what to say.

    This is where your crashing before you start the car. Conversations are natural progressions, there shouldn't have to be any momentary stopping to think about what to say next.

    The hardest part for most is the opener and having the balls to even approach.

    The best thing to do is to observe your surroundings and get into conversations based upon that. I remember when I first started reading about all this, there would be so many cheesy pick up lines.... let me be clear PICK UP LINES DO NOT WORK! Its really about confidence bro. If you give off a confident vibe girls will be receptive to you.

    Another big point to make is to LISTEN!!!! Conversations are a two way street, if you ask a question, simply listen to her answer and then reply based of what she says. You shouldn't be scrambling in your brain trying to think about what to say when she's talking, you should be listening because what she says will dictate your response. Add in a little humor, killer body language and teasing = success.



    i didnt think past the approach lol. still one more to add to the pile of lessons and even though i might have sounded like a cock she was prety nice so i guess that add to the 'it dosnt matter if it dont work first time' mentality.

    Don't be too hard on yourself. In the beginning, when your simply trying to over come your fear of approaching your going to SUCK!! Just think of all those approaches as experience builders. Don't focus too much on the outcome (number, kiss close, date), instead focus on practicing good habits (eye contact, posture, tonality) and you'll naturally get better and start attracted more and more women easily because your transforming your poor habits.

    To be honest its not even about the conversation (this might be something you realize down the line), its truly all about your male dominance and projecting that attitude to her. Women are attracted to men, real dominant men; its a code in their DNA, when they're in the presence of a true dominant man, they get wet.... seriously! haha

    If your at the beach, open a girl with a conversation about the water, the waves, the little kid playing in the sand, the old fat guy wearing a speed-o... there's literally thousands of things to observe when your out and about. Use that to break the ice and then be direct and get to know her.



    openers are what i really struggle on. also a section on txting would be nice as it is a ****ing deathtrap. use cocky/sarcastic humor there and you are ****ed . its also almost impossible to have a naturaly flowing conversation. should i just avoid texting as much as possible?

    Texting is a little tricky. However just know that if you do your job right when you meet the girl (creating and amplifying attraction) you won't have to worry about texting, when to call, etc. Women do not play games with men they are HIGHLY interested in, in fact they make it really easy for them. However when their interest is mild to luke warm, that's when you'll run into all the ins and outs of women and their retarded games.

    I wouldn't say you should avoid texting all together; almost everyone I know prefers text now days. But just don't try and have a long conversation over text. I like to have a healthy balance between text and phone calls.



    also we all know females are pack animals is it possible to approach a girl in a group?

    Of course!! Old rule I learned from reading various pick up stuff back in the day, that definitely works is to always approach the ugly one in a pack. Barely give the hot girl (or girl that your after) much attention, instead work on be-friended the uglies of the group, while giving the target limited attention. She'll be begging for your attention since she's so use to it. By that point you can start flirting with her more and you won't get c-ock blocked by her friends. There's more to this, but that's the quick version! haha


    lastly what can you do if you cant think of anything to say if you go up to someone and say hi. and all they say back is hi then whats your next move. like i said im fine with conversations. just not starting them.

    See above regarding your surroundings.


    There's two things you need to learn to do efficiently to really get a girl on your d-ick.


    Comfort and Attraction


    Building comfort is all about building rapport. Breaking the ice, then having a conversation with her, getting to know her a bit. Stuff that you truly don't give a flying fuvk about, but is necessary to break down her boundaries initially.

    Most guys who end up really liking a girl, only to find out they're in the friend-zone often build too much comfort and NO ATTRACTION! This is the kiss of death. This is where you'll hear the girl say stuff like:

    "I only see you as a friend"
    "your like a brother to me"
    "I don't think of you like that"


    The reason she's saying all that stuff is because you have not created any physical chemistry. You spent all your time talking about boring stuff (what do you like to do, where do you hang out, what school do you go to) and now she starts to associate those boring conversations as part of who YOU are.


    That's why its KEY to find a good balance between comfort and building attraction. Things that build attraction are wide and varied, but playfully pushing her, touching her, portraying dominance etc. Its a tight wire act to correctly balance between these two crucial elements to get girls. Most guys do too much of one or the other. As mentioned above, too much comfort and your in the friend zone. Too much attraction building aka sexual suggestions, touching, etc without comfort and your the creepy pervert who doesn't get the hint.

    But when your able to find that fine balance.... ahhhhh... its a great feeling. Because every girl because your personal porn star.


    Lots of young guys completely act differently around girls, thinking they can't be sexual, or they act extra nice aka nice guy syndrome in hopes of getting something in return.


    Focus on first building comfort in your conversation, get her smiling and laughing. Then start building attraction, touching her, teasing her etc. While every girl requires a different amount of each to get her, in the end each and every girl is the same, its figuring out what the balance is that trips up most guys.





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    boy have i been doing things wrong, this thread i think will really help me in the future, i mean i'm a good date(literaly every girl I dated wants to go back out with me) but it's just getting that inital conv. down thats tough for me and this reall helps alot, so thank you.
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    thanks sauce head. you truly are a god amongst men. im going on holiday again for 3 weeks in a few days so im going to try and approach as many people as possible seeing as i will never see them again. im getting realy pissed off at myself though. i started a new school last year and acted like an alpha without even knowing. but then i took a load of knocks to my confidence and became a afc. i think i just need to boost my confidence really.
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    Damn this is fantastic facts.. found out i am 100% AFC, so hopefully this would help me get my bait everytime.. (:

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    Some decent info but the only thing I don't agree with is forcing/making the girl pay when at the counter. Great way to make them run away and never return. Happens....
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    Originally Posted by TexasNick View Post
    Some decent info but the only thing I don't agree with is forcing/making the girl pay when at the counter. Great way to make them run away and never return. Happens....
    Yes, a lot of good info, like a self-help book, for free. As an (older) woman, I have to say that, even though I *know* how this works, it still works - if the guy is really living up to it. but like the guy above, I don't agree with all of it. for example about the never paying for coffee or whatever. I'll offer to pay my share, or just go ahead and do it, but if a guy makes it really clear he's willing to be that rude about it, I'd walk away. because low down meanness isn't hot, and I wouldn't leave someone else hanging and feeling embarrassed.

    so, if you want to **** hot, mean girls, then he's got the prescription. but if you want to **** hot sweet girls, you have to mix in a little kindness with your confidence. Still be cocky and risky, but don't be truly mean unless that's your true nature (and then meet your own kind).

    that's my perspective from when I was young - I liked the unexpected, and being knocked off centre a bit, even if it meant getting hurt when he didn't stay. but I walked away from true *******s (as well as too nice guys). Only women who have been ****ed over too much too early in life really want to date cold hearted *******s. and I think hot, sweet girls really enjoy sex more than the mean ones, and are more giving in bed.

    and ... if you do want a girlfriend, which isn't what this thread is about, then the confidence is still crucial. but you have to be able to bring your heart a little too. All those 'romantic' things that don't work for beginners *do* work if the woman is already totally hot for you and into you. However, the minute she expects it or takes it for granted, you have to pull it right the **** back. I was so happy, for a long long time, with a man who never took ANY **** from me, but who could really be there the rest of the time, and I'd do anything to keep him happy.
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    sauce head, school start in around a month...

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    Originally Posted by Sauce-head View Post
    There's two things you need to learn to do efficiently to really get a girl on your d-ick.


    Comfort and Attraction


    Building comfort is all about building rapport. Breaking the ice, then having a conversation with her, getting to know her a bit. Stuff that you truly don't give a flying fuvk about, but is necessary to break down her boundaries initially.

    Most guys who end up really liking a girl, only to find out they're in the friend-zone often build too much comfort and NO ATTRACTION! This is the kiss of death. This is where you'll hear the girl say stuff like:

    "I only see you as a friend"
    "your like a brother to me"
    "I don't think of you like that"


    The reason she's saying all that stuff is because you have not created any physical chemistry. You spent all your time talking about boring stuff (what do you like to do, where do you hang out, what school do you go to) and now she starts to associate those boring conversations as part of who YOU are.


    That's why its KEY to find a good balance between comfort and building attraction. Things that build attraction are wide and varied, but playfully pushing her, touching her, portraying dominance etc. Its a tight wire act to correctly balance between these two crucial elements to get girls. Most guys do too much of one or the other. As mentioned above, too much comfort and your in the friend zone. Too much attraction building aka sexual suggestions, touching, etc without comfort and your the creepy pervert who doesn't get the hint.

    But when your able to find that fine balance.... ahhhhh... its a great feeling. Because every girl because your personal porn star.


    Lots of young guys completely act differently around girls, thinking they can't be sexual, or they act extra nice aka nice guy syndrome in hopes of getting something in return.


    Focus on first building comfort in your conversation, get her smiling and laughing. Then start building attraction, touching her, teasing her etc. While every girl requires a different amount of each to get her, in the end each and every girl is the same, its figuring out what the balance is that trips up most guys.





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    u just hit the nail on the head brah. now give me the link to your infamous thread i've been hearing about
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    Originally Posted by martindaman View Post
    Damn this is fantastic facts.. found out i am 100% AFC, so hopefully this would help me get my bait everytime.. (:

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    Hey ive only skimmed through but whats an AFC?
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    Hey ive only skimmed through but whats an AFC?
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    Onto the second page, already learning so much from this. Absolutely no experience with girls since, you hit the nail on the head, I'm a shy guy and act on it. That said, at a party a few days ago I unwittingly talked to the other girls in a group of chicks, and wouldn't you know it the one who I didn't talk to first was the one that was in my bed later that night. Had brewer's droop so couldn't make the most out of it, but we're gonna be meeting eachother over the holiday so it should evolve into something. Now time to read this thread and apply it...
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    I forgot all about this! Used to follow the original thread religiously.

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    I forgot all about this! Used to follow the original thread religiously.

    Great to see the legend is back. Your input´s highly appreciated!
    lmao at the screen name. how are u even on here w. that? i didnt know u could put cuss words in it
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    lmao at the screen name. how are u even on here w. that? i didnt know u could put cuss words in it
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    Series: Qualities of the Alpha Male
    Lesson 1: Possess the ability to Walk away


    One more thing i'll say. When girls throw a subtle (or obvious) invite, don't always take it.
    Here's an example: You and HB are talking. All of a sudden, she says, "It's a beautiful day. I think I'm
    going to go for a walk." AFC's would say, "Can I come with you?????" That's weak. You want to say
    (in a calm, relaxed tone) alright, see you later. She'll wonder why you turned down going with her.
    She'll once again wonder whether or not you're attracted and she'll up her game.
    OR MAYBE she'll think that you're not interested in her anymore, and she'll stop talking to you? Derp.
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    OR MAYBE she'll think that you're not interested in her anymore, and she'll stop talking to you? Derp.
    Unless you have been consistently and blatantly obvious you are not interested, then no, she wont think your are not interested.

    In addition, how is not begging to go with her show disinterest? The example is is not saying that she asked him to go with her and he rejected her, she merely hinted. Sounds more like a test to me, which you would have failed miserably.

    Age: 17. How about you stop being a know it all and learn... remember this moment in a few years you realize you are a supplicating chump and let women walk all over you and always end up on the friend zone.
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    It's good info and all that but there's just one thing:

    Over-analysation!

    Looking into things toooo much will **** you up. I've been there and done that. I've tried every method that was in the 'seduction Community'. Was in that community for over 3 years.

    No matter how much you read or how much you follow any advice, if she isn't physically attracted to you then there is NOTHING you can do. All these techniques are just a layer of a cake. If you haven't got the base sorted (i.e your looks) then you're making the cake from upwards>downwards and you'll never reach the bottom.

    Good looks are made and not always traits that people have been born with. Concentrate on looking good and then go and talk to women without rushing things. You will get laid, guarrenteed!
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