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    Originally Posted by Coal Man View Post
    It was as simple as looking at her background and upbringing to realise that she places loyalty and respect above all else.



    Simply put, I think what each man can hope to accomplish is being patient and open enough to find someone who is on his wavelength. Someone who is at that stage of her life where strong emphasis is placed on all the moments you have built and spent together. When someone fully realises the value of all the calls, car rides, dates, money spent, family introductions, etc...basically all the sacrifices in time and energy you have invested in her...you can absolutely live with peace of mind and know that both of you were as lucky as hell to have found each other.

    Such a thing does not happen too often in my experience.
    congrats on the relationship. I've found out that someone's upbringing can really say alot about who they are as a person.

    How did you meet? Did it have anything to do with PUA or anything to do with the articles that you posted?
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    Originally Posted by Coal Man View Post
    1. 2004, but took it seriously in 2005

    2. I'm 23 and unmarried. Don't plan on getting married for a long time (I have things to accomplish for myself first)

    However, I am in a relationship that has lasted a year thus far. I must say that this relationship is the first one I have taken very seriously as this girl is the only one mature enough to understand and respect me on a very high level. It was as simple as looking at her background and upbringing to realise that she places loyalty and respect above all else. I am not 100% certain about her. 100% is impossible, but I am at my upper limits.

    Simply put, I think what each man can hope to accomplish is being patient and open enough to find someone who is on his wavelength. Someone who is at that stage of her life where strong emphasis is placed on all the moments you have built and spent together. When someone fully realises the value of all the calls, car rides, dates, money spent, family introductions, etc...basically all the sacrifices in time and energy you have invested in her...you can absolutely live with peace of mind and know that both of you were as lucky as hell to have found each other.

    Such a thing does not happen too often in my experience.
    This +keeping attraction alive=major success.
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    This is a quality read, just took me ages reading every word but it was worth it! Thanks CM
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    not sure if i should read.

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    The combating shyness info is dead on. I use the same ideas to combat my stutter.
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    actually read this time lol and was impressed. great post op.
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    5 star thread. would read again when i forget lol.
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    WOW... I learned a lot about myself. A lot of things I already knew, but this article really put them into words in a way which I can learn from them instead of just feel sorry about them.

    I am and have been an AFC for a long time now, I guess after this read I'm an rAFC. Been trying to change, but it's hard to do without any real direction. Was having mild success, but I picked up some ONE-ITIS, and didn't even know. I truely thought this girl was genuine, but at the same time knew she was playing games with me. I spent some time in the RH and started clicking more and more that I was being an AFC and missed all my chances, when she gave me plenty. I knew she LJBF'd me but it took me a lil while to accept it.

    So this girl was going to take me to the beach yesterday, but I realize it was a LJBF thing, so the day before I just told her I didn't want to go. Truth is I wanted to, but for much greater reasons that she wanted to go. She asked if I was mad at her, I said no, and she probably didn't believe me which she shouldn't have. I was mad at her for playing games with me, but also mad at myself for not swooping up on a golden opportunity. Now I'm just trying to take her off my mind one day at a time, and at first it was killer, because I was constantly checking her FB, and even found out her myspace that she said didn't exist. I realized she gave up on me, so I'm giving up on her, no I won't delete her number, or her friends, I just block her updates from showing up on my feed. I'm not trying to stay in the LJBF zone, but I don't have a problem with her seeing me change ways and getting jealous and coming back.

    I'm going to use this thread to better myself as a whole. Recently in the past few months I've been practicing some of this, but now I know more things I should practice on. EC is a huge part of everything as well as the c/f, those two things are the biggest things I've noticed help me, and things I started working on before reading, but now I know how to use them in combination with other techniques to get what I want.

    So here's to the future for all the AFC's and rAFC's. I'll be back to this thread for some reviewing of the advice, and just to see how other rAFC's are doing.


    EDIT: I understand it's going to be a slow change, I can't just go from AFC to PUA. But the greatest thing about this thread is that it really lets me see what I did wrong in the past and where I need to fix it. I mean seriously I can think of exact moments and statements that were made where I totally should have said something different in response. It's so eye-opening.
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    Read most of this thread Thursday then hooked up with a girl at a partty last night by doing some of the stuff. Best read ever can't wait to finish
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    Wow it has been a long ass time since I've been back posting in this thread, glad to see its still alive or resurrected its seems.

    And its also rad to see a new generation of newbies learn how to gain confidence and become a stud with women.

    Glad that this thread has helped so many, lets keep the party going here.

    I'm around and its good to see some familiar names still posting here.




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    Originally Posted by Sauce-head View Post
    Wow it has been a long ass time since I've been back posting in this thread, glad to see its still alive or resurrected its seems.

    And its also rad to see a new generation of newbies learn how to gain confidence and become a stud with women.

    Glad that this thread has helped so many, lets keep the party going here.

    I'm around and its good to see some familiar names still posting here.




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    **** just got real. Bro you should do a piece on like text gaming, because the cell phone part has just died within the last couple years. Everyone texts now.
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    Originally Posted by Sauce-head View Post
    Wow it has been a long ass time since I've been back posting in this thread, glad to see its still alive or resurrected its seems.

    And its also rad to see a new generation of newbies learn how to gain confidence and become a stud with women.

    Glad that this thread has helped so many, lets keep the party going here.

    I'm around and its good to see some familiar names still posting here.




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    lol **** got real
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    glad to see some real PUA material in here.
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    Originally Posted by Sauce-head View Post
    Wow it has been a long ass time since I've been back posting in this thread, glad to see its still alive or resurrected its seems.

    And its also rad to see a new generation of newbies learn how to gain confidence and become a stud with women.

    Glad that this thread has helped so many, lets keep the party going here.

    I'm around and its good to see some familiar names still posting here.




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    Sauce, you're a legend bro. I remember your original thread and all the people partaking in the challenge (like 30day or 100day/100 approach challenges). It helped a lot of people transform their lives and become better, more desirable men. Hats off to you, highest level of respect.
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    God damn
    Summed this up

    Get new clothes/accessories
    Think positive
    talk establish ec
    make her laugh
    never call her first
    stay on phone for no more than a few mins
    tease
    ????
    PROFIT

    Had chronic one-itis..

    Can't imagine how much this is gonna help me, and no sooner should I read this when new students are starting my school in a few months
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    This thread is gold. I've read most of it so far, and already realised what a noob I am. Cheers!
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    It actually really is spot on
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    So what advice would you have for an AFC SH, Coal Man? Just go out there and approach?

    I can't get into clubs and stuff yet...so I was wondering if I should just start hitting up my local mall, coffee shops, book stores, etc etc
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    Originally Posted by PaC-mAn8 View Post
    So what advice would you have for an AFC SH, Coal Man? Just go out there and approach?

    I can't get into clubs and stuff yet...so I was wondering if I should just start hitting up my local mall, coffee shops, book stores, etc etc
    Anywhere girls can be found, whether they're hot or not talk to them. Honestly practice on the ones you don't find attractive at all, yes shallow as it is it build confidence. School and work are where I get the most practice. The mall I don't try to just hit on random girls, but I shop at stores where average to very attractive girls get hired and flirt with them as they help me or ring me up.
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    Originally Posted by Italian.Muscle View Post
    **** just got real. Bro you should do a piece on like text gaming, because the cell phone part has just died within the last couple years. Everyone texts now.
    Texting is tricky for the simple reason that what can't be conveyed with tone of voice (sarcasm, seriousness) can EASILY be read the wrong way and have the opposite effect on a girl. Even using LOL's and such don't really help because without having sound it doesn't have the same effect.

    However, I will say that now days almost all my communication is via text, seems like 90% of people prefer it that way, even my close friends.

    I'm still not a big fan of text though, but again most people prefer it.



    Vexed: Nice bro! I seriously had NO IDEA what a big deal this thread was until I started coming back around the boards. Good stuff!! Yeah I remember that challenge, that's a great way to get started in the game, its ridiculous how much better you can get in less than a month if you keep at it. I also agree with you, this info helps you in every aspect of your life, not just girls.


    Pac-Man: School is the best place to practice! Trust me you will realize when your done with school what a god damn gold mine it is to easily meeting several new girls each day and closing.

    Yeah malls, coffee shops etc are all fine, you'll realize once you gain confidence that you don't actively go out trying to meet girls, you just learn to captialize when you have an opportunity.

    Every single guy who goes out each day will most likely have at least 1-2 opportunities to chat up a hot girl, the question is will he take advantage of the situation or just stand on the sidelines?

    Back to a regime; I think taking baby steps each day to getting better is just fine when your starting out.

    Example:

    Day 1: Say "hi" and smile to 5 different girls you don't know
    Day 2: Say "hi" and smile to 8 different girls you don't know

    Week 2: Have a conversation with a couple different girls you don't know

    Week 3: Have a conversation and number close a girl/s

    Week 4: Set up a date with a girl you met recently

    I'll say that this is something you have to be constantly practicing until you reach a level of confidence where you can easily pick up girls, its like riding a bike once you've mastered it. And work at your own pace, whatever is comfortable to you, its not a race and everyone is different at how quickly they pick up the core of the information. The key though is to always push yourself out of your comfort zone.

    Most guys never improve or stall with girls because of FEAR.

    Fear he'll look stupid
    Fear he won't know what to say
    Fear she'll reject him

    And because of all these perceived thoughts he prevents himself from even attempting to get the girl because he's defeated himself before he even starts.

    Before you can start this journey I'd highly suggest improving yourself in every way possible. Basically anything that is holding you back from being ubber confident DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! Maybe your over-weight, maybe your too skinny, maybe you need a better hairstyle, maybe you have anxiety. Whatever it is, fix that FIRST, because you need to have thick skin and be very confident to make it out alive.

    And remember don't be too hard on yourself, don't take it too seriously and learn to have fun! There will always be another girl walking through the door when the last one leaves....








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    this thread is pretty awesome and thanks to both the creator and resurrector. i have no prob getting the girls i talk to but ive always been shy on approaching girls. ive been getting better since college and this overlaps with some of the stuff ive picked up on being in a frat and also gives new ideas. in4wheniforgetsmoothpickuplines
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    great thread man. stared following your advice last week on holliday. ive realized the approach is fine. its the opener i struggle with. i dont have a great sense of humor so i dont want to risk one of your funny openers so i just end up going up and saying hi and then not knowing what to say.

    quick question though/ i was at the beach i approached a girl on her own and said 'hi, want some company?'. thing is she was lying down an i was standing up so if felt weird. i was towering over her which i guess is naturally quite aggressive, even though i was being freindly. she said sure so i sat and talked so i guess it was fine. but i wondered after if i should have sat down when i asked her, so i was less threatening or whatever. but then what if she had said 'im waiting for my BF' or something? sitting down makes it look like im planning on staying and if she says no i just have to stand up again. thansk for a 5 star thread. repped
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    Originally Posted by bowlie View Post
    great thread man. stared following your advice last week on holliday. ive realized the approach is fine. its the opener i struggle with. i dont have a great sense of humor so i dont want to risk one of your funny openers so i just end up going up and saying hi and then not knowing what to say.

    quick question though/ i was at the beach i approached a girl on her own and said 'hi, want some company?'. thing is she was lying down an i was standing up so if felt weird. i was towering over her which i guess is naturally quite aggressive, even though i was being freindly. she said sure so i sat and talked so i guess it was fine. but i wondered after if i should have sat down when i asked her, so i was less threatening or whatever. but then what if she had said 'im waiting for my BF' or something? sitting down makes it look like im planning on staying and if she says no i just have to stand up again. thansk for a 5 star thread. repped


    Your thinking too much.... "want some company?" is some what of a cheesy opener and really just lets the girl decide whether she's physically attracted to you or not for her to decide whether she wants you to sit down or not.

    I've said this a lot in this past, but I always focus on the surrounding environment as an opener, its more natural, not some canned line.

    How did the conversation end up? This girl was interested in you and you could have got her number and a date if you went for the kill.





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    Originally Posted by Sauce-head View Post
    Your thinking too much.... "want some company?" is some what of a cheesy opener and really just lets the girl decide whether she's physically attracted to you or not for her to decide whether she wants you to sit down or not.

    I've said this a lot in this past, but I always focus on the surrounding environment as an opener, its more natural, not some canned line.

    How did the conversation end up? This girl was interested in you and you could have got her number and a date if you went for the kill.





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    ok thanks for the advice. it went ok, not great. dont think i would have got a number. tbh i forgot to think about what to say. i didnt think past the approach lol. still one more to add to the pile of lessons and even though i might have sounded like a cock she was prety nice so i guess that add to the 'it dosnt matter if it dont work first time' mentality. openers are what i really struggle on. also a section on txting would be nice as it is a ****ing deathtrap. use cocky/sarcastic humor there and you are ****ed . its also almost impossible to have a naturaly flowing conversation. should i just avoid texting as much as possible?

    also we all know females are pack animals is it possible to approach a girl in a group?

    lastly what can you do if you cant think of anything to say if you go up to someone and say hi. and all they say back is hi then whats your next move. like i said im fine with conversations. just not starting them.
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