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    Sodium intake?

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    I swear I found another thread a while back that said try not to have more then 400mg of sodium in one serving? This will probably be the hardest part of my diet if its true - Im fine with low fat high protein foods etc but its gonna be hard to choose foods if so.
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    If your active and drink a lot of water its fine to have plenty more than that...Between deli meat, PB, just straight adding salt to my food, soups, etc. I get a ton of sodium...dont worry about it
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    Breakfast today had 1114mg, and I'm still standing. (I went out with my dad.)
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    Originally Posted by Wozz View Post
    Hi all,

    I swear I found another thread a while back that said try not to have more then 400mg of sodium in one serving? This will probably be the hardest part of my diet if its true - Im fine with low fat high protein foods etc but its gonna be hard to choose foods if so.
    Oh crap, I just ate a whole bag of skillet sensations which contained over 2,000 mgs of sodium. I better drink a gallon of water to help flush it out.
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    Originally Posted by PatMac View Post
    If your active and drink a lot of water its fine to have plenty more than that...Between deli meat, PB, just straight adding salt to my food, soups, etc. I get a ton of sodium...dont worry about it
    yeah that's the thing with RDA they try to make them for everyone and they end up being worthless to about anyone (well one of the many problems with them)

    I think if your not very active and don't sweat alot then they're probably close. but for people are very active, sweat a lot and drink a lot of water I think ok not to worry about it, just don't go over board (especially people who work out side in the summer like I do)
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    Originally Posted by Aindreas View Post
    Breakfast today had 1114mg, and I'm still standing. (I went out with my dad.)
    lol yeah I know i've had plenty more than that in the past but im trying to cut
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    Originally Posted by Wozz View Post
    lol yeah I know i've had plenty more than that in the past but im trying to cut
    I don't think it will actually impede your cutting, it'll just look like it temporarily until you flush it out.
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    Cool.
    For dinner im going to have a cup of salt!
    Hurray for salt!
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    I don't think it really matters as long as you drink lot of water and exercise.
    I used to eat over 3000mg with one of my meals every day for a few months.
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    Up your potassium intake to keep the ratios in a healthful state. These two minerals are very intertwined inside of our bodies and if one vastly out numbers the other we run into problems.
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    Good clear info at this site

    Our bodies were designed for diets high in potassium and low in sodium. This was very helpful to our ancestors. For them, salt (sodium chloride, the source of sodium) was a luxury. It was important to eat a lot of salt once they found some, to balance out the great amount of potassium eaten. Because of this need, our bodies are equipped with a salt hunger. (Ever wonder why animals need a salt lick? They eat potassium all day.) Now, when salt is readily available, that salt hunger works against us. Our bodies are rigged not only to want a lot of sodium, but to retain it once we have it. When we eat a lot of potassium, our adrenal glands are stimulated to release aldosterone. This hormone tells the kidneys to excrete potassium and save the sodium. This mechanism has kept the human species alive for thousands of years, but it is killing us. Too much salt causes all kinds of problems.
    http://waltonfeed.com/self/health/vit-min/potnsalt.html
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    While I think the RDA of <2400mg/day is quite unrealistic for most people - and unnecessary, I would try to keep it 'reasonable'.

    I would consider over 10g/day as excessive, even for an athlete, but I don't see a problem for most active people eating 5g/day or so.
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    It's really up to you but I'm about 3 pounds difference and more leaned out looking when I'm eating a low sodium diet. I don't eat any processed foods except the occasional times I eat at a restaurant which would add salt so... I don't find it too hard... try to season with curries/hot spices/lemon/garlic/onion/oregano/pepper to replace your desire for salt if you are in it... just takes getting used to... and after that you will actually taste more of the food (if you are eating quality fresh ingredients.)

    But, what it comes down to is... if adding that salt is helping you eat healthier foods than you can with out it... I think the benefits outweigh the negatives.

    I eat in the 1g-1.5g range... sometimes less.
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    Originally Posted by grapemaster View Post
    It's really up to you but I'm about 3 pounds difference and more leaned out looking when I'm eating a low sodium diet. I don't eat any processed foods except the occasional times I eat at a restaurant which would add salt so... I don't find it too hard... try to season with curries/hot spices/lemon/garlic/onion/oregano/pepper to replace your desire for salt if you are in it... just takes getting used to... and after that you will actually taste more of the food (if you are eating quality fresh ingredients.)

    But, what it comes down to is... if adding that salt is helping you eat healthier foods than you can with out it... I think the benefits outweigh the negatives.

    I eat in the 1g-1.5g range... sometimes less.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/cal...d-bits-6428445

    ate 275g = 23,996mg = 24g's
    It felt like it rose a mile, to my waist from the floor.......
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    I know I'm bumping an old thread but didnt want to create a new one when theres so many on sodium. I get a lot of my protein at night from deli meats and cheese (sliced cheese, Laughing Cow cheese wedges, etc) which are full of sodium. I'm estimating my total sodium intake daily to be around 5000mg. Other than water retention, is there anything else I should be worried about? Also, if i cut my sodium for example today to normal 2400mg a day, how long will it take my body to get rid of the extra water it has been storing? I have really low blood pressure so not really worried about hypertension as a problem...for now at least.

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    if your worried about salt intake maybe try 'losalt', get it here in the uk, tastes basically the same, but has really low sodium levels
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    Originally Posted by Flat4Suby View Post
    I know I'm bumping an old thread but didnt want to create a new one when theres so many on sodium. I get a lot of my protein at night from deli meats and cheese (sliced cheese, Laughing Cow cheese wedges, etc) which are full of sodium. I'm estimating my total sodium intake daily to be around 5000mg. Other than water retention, is there anything else I should be worried about? Also, if i cut my sodium for example today to normal 2400mg a day, how long will it take my body to get rid of the extra water it has been storing? I have really low blood pressure so not really worried about hypertension as a problem...for now at least.

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    you are fine op, I consume 7-10g daily, the bloat should be gone in a day or so. just get adequate potassium and water
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    Excessive salt intake has been linked to stomach cancer. I try to keep it as low as possible without sacrificing much flavour, which mainly means using fresh vegetables instead of canned.
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    I'm shocked that the sodium intakes are so high. I eat VERY low sodium, like 1200 mg a day. But I cook all my own food from scratch. I don't injest anything processed, except for some fiber bars which have about 80mg of sodium per... Are you guys just eating a lot of jerky or pre-made meals?
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    Originally Posted by prometh View Post
    Excessive salt intake has been linked to stomach cancer. I try to keep it as low as possible without sacrificing much flavour, which mainly means using fresh vegetables instead of canned.
    first google result: http://ecodevoevo.blogspot.com/2012/...ata-arent.html

    from what i've been reading, the biggest reason to avoid salt is if you have hypertension or have had heart failure

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    sodium vs. bodybuilding

    It's not so much the health issues with sodium when it comes to bodybuilding as it is the astetics of bodybuilding. Sodium and water are attracted to each other. More sodium in your tissue, more water in your tissue, causing an unpleasant appearance where you don't want it. So, if you're really trying to look good watch the salt/sodium intake and when possible use sea salt. That will really help your ph balance.
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    Originally Posted by christian_cluff View Post
    It's not so much the health issues with sodium when it comes to bodybuilding as it is the astetics of bodybuilding. Sodium and water are attracted to each other. More sodium in your tissue, more water in your tissue, causing an unpleasant appearance where you don't want it. So, if you're really trying to look good watch the salt/sodium intake and when possible use sea salt. That will really help your ph balance.
    Is that an accurate statement? I mean, as I understand it, sea salt, kosher salt, etc are not really any lower in sodium, its just that due to the size of the granules and the way it registers with your tastebuds it seems saltier without needing as much.

    Also, for your normal 20 year old, salt might not be a health problem. But for every 5 years you add on to that, it slowly ramps up in its importance.
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    Originally Posted by lucidz View Post
    Is that an accurate statement? I mean, as I understand it, sea salt, kosher salt, etc are not really any lower in sodium, its just that due to the size of the granules and the way it registers with your tastebuds it seems saltier without needing as much.

    Also, for your normal 20 year old, salt might not be a health problem. But for every 5 years you add on to that, it slowly ramps up in its importance.
    From what I understand the only difference between sea salt and table salt is that table salt is processed. They contain about the same amount of sodium. If you don't eat fast food you shouldn't really have an issue with too much sodium. I for example, went and got a physical done and was told my sodium intake is too low for the level of physical activity I do. Lack of sodium can lead to dizziness, exhaustion among other things. Just make sure you balance your sodium intake properly. If you're sweating, you're going to have to replace those salts!
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    Originally Posted by Wozz View Post
    Hi all,

    I swear I found another thread a while back that said try not to have more then 400mg of sodium in one serving? This will probably be the hardest part of my diet if its true - Im fine with low fat high protein foods etc but its gonna be hard to choose foods if so.
    While bulking, or maintaining, sodium intake doesn't have to be closely monitored. HOWEVER, whilst in cutting phase, especially those undergoing diuretics, high levels of sodium will retain water weight in your body and therefore make you bloat. while this isn't a gain in fat, it can impact those who wish to show off their ripped physique.
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    Originally Posted by metallambo View Post
    While bulking, or maintaining, sodium intake doesn't have to be closely monitored. HOWEVER, whilst in cutting phase, especially those undergoing diuretics, high levels of sodium will retain water weight in your body and therefore make you bloat. while this isn't a gain in fat, it can impact those who wish to show off their ripped physique.
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    Really???

    Sodium is great for you. It helps your muscles retain water in a bulk for growth. It also can be used to flush your system that weak before the beach of a photo shoot. The answer is not good versus bad, it's when and when not to use it. Sodium can flush out the system in a matter of hours.
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    Originally Posted by Drdave2525 View Post
    Sodium is great for you. It helps your muscles retain water in a bulk for growth. It also can be used to flush your system that weak before the beach of a photo shoot. The answer is not good versus bad, it's when and when not to use it. Sodium can flush out the system in a matter of hours.
    Whew...thank goodness you bumped a 10 year old thread to post that nugget of wisdom...
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    This thread reminds me of the debates I used to have with my gym buddy. He would make delicious healthy meals high in protein, good carbs, fats etc but the problem is he used so much salt. I think he used to eat something like 10-15g of salt per meal or something ridiculous.
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