any 1 fail a drug test from takin 1,3-Dimethylamylamine?

[Eyayo]

well my boy is takin a certain popular fat burner and come up positive for amphetamines. I know for a fact hes not taking any drugs. Any input is appreciated.

[jon326]

well my boy is takin a certain popular fat burner and come up positive for amphetamines. I know for a fact hes not taking any drugs. Any input is appreciated.

this has been a pretty big topic, not for specific products (although products such as jack3d, oep, and other surface a lot due to popularity), and so far it seems it's a big negative that 1,3-Dimethylamylamine is causing a false readings, unless you're being tested as an athlete, but otherwise every post, article, or reponse from someone who uses something that contains this that has actually done a drug test hasnt failed.

also, when you do a drug test, they specifically ask you if you are taking any medication. if it turns up false, they know what 1,3-Dimethylamylamine is, and can find out what jack3d contains, then do an exact test for the specific illicit metabolites, which of course would come up false.

[triplewhammy]

this has been a pretty big topic, not for specific products (although products such as jack3d, oep, and other surface a lot due to popularity), and so far it seems it's a big negative that 1,3-Dimethylamylamine is causing a false readings, unless you're being tested as an athlete, but otherwise every post, article, or reponse from someone who uses something that contains this that has actually done a drug test hasnt failed.

also, when you do a drug test, they specifically ask you if you are taking any medication. if it turns up false, they know what 1,3-Dimethylamylamine is, and can find out what jack3d contains, then do an exact test for the specific illicit metabolites, which of course would come up false.

Nothing more to add.

[jon326]

Nothing more to add.

although if they wanted to they could send me a few tubs of jack3d and ill get drug tested to prove it!

;o)

[tsheckler]

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/suppl...k3d-1-3-a.html

Three guys claiming to have passed the US Military drug test while taking Jack3d.

Sorry, but you don't know 100% what your kid is doing. I had drug dealers' parents tell me stop hanging around their kid's because they thought I was a bad influence when I was in high school. Maybe he's having trouble staying awake at school so he snorts a bump once in awhile to wake him up.

Usually parents that are "100% sure" of what their kids are doing will fly off the handle whenever they find out their kids aren't perfect. I grew up in a home where I could discuss any drugs that I wanted with my mom and I still hid things from her on occassion.

[Hardnutcheck]

Passed my drug tests but became addicted to meth because of 1,3-Dime

[chasinSKURT]

1,3 dimeth will not, and cannot cause a false positive. The supplement is contaminated, or your 'boy' is full of it.

I've read that ephedra can cross react, but with minimal evidence to support the claim.

[Eyayo]

Thanx for all the responses. Hes def not lying to me because now hes ****ed and has to stay in rehab. The thing is he started this fat burner in march and failed the test from then. Got re tested and still failed, and still on the fat burner.

[Panabol]

Thanx for all the responses. Hes def not lying to me because now hes ****ed and has to stay in rehab. The thing is he started this fat burner in march and failed the test from then. Got re tested and still failed, and still on the fat burner.

Well get off it and see if he passes. If not, you know there is something else going on...

[Royzer]

Abstract:
The Department of Defense (DoD) operates six forensic urine drug-testing laboratories that screen close to 5 million urine samples for amphetamines yearly. Recently, the DoD laboratories have observed a significant decrease in the confirmation rates for amphetamines because of specimens screening positive by two separate immunoassays and confirming negative by gas chromatography-mass spectrometry (GC-MS). Previous studies conducted by the Division of Forensic Toxicology, Armed Force Institute of Pathology (AFIP) utilizing a GC-MS basic drug screen and a designer drug screen revealed no common compound or compound classes as to the cause of the immunoassay-positive results. Additional information obtained from an immunoassay vendor suggested the anorectic compound dimethylamylamine (DMAA) may be the cause of the false-positive screens. An additional 134 false-positive samples were received and analyzed using liquid chromatography-tandem mass spectrometry (LC-MS-MS) for DMAA. LC-MS-MS analysis revealed the presence of DMAA in 92.3% of the false-positive samples at a concentration of approximately 6.0 mg/L DMAA, causing a positive screen on both immunoassay kits.

Document Type: Research article

Affiliations: 1: Division of Forensic Toxicology, Armed Forces Medical Examiner System, Armed Forces Institute of Pathology, 1413 Research Boulevard, Building 102, Rockville, Maryland 20850;, Email: shawn.vorce@us.army.mil 2: Division of Forensic Toxicology, Armed Forces Medical Examiner System, Armed Forces Institute of Pathology, 1413 Research Boulevard, Building 102, Rockville, Maryland 20850

Publication date: 2011-04-01

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[theguitarman128]

Abstract:
The Department of Defense (DoD) operates six forensic urine drug-testing laboratories that screen close to 5 million urine samples for amphetamines yearly. Recently, the DoD laboratories have observed a significant decrease in the confirmation rates for amphetamines because of specimens screening positive by two separate immunoassays and confirming negative by gas chromatography-mass spectrometry (GC-MS). Previous studies conducted by the Division of Forensic Toxicology, Armed Force Institute of Pathology (AFIP) utilizing a GC-MS basic drug screen and a designer drug screen revealed no common compound or compound classes as to the cause of the immunoassay-positive results. Additional information obtained from an immunoassay vendor suggested the anorectic compound dimethylamylamine (DMAA) may be the cause of the false-positive screens. An additional 134 false-positive samples were received and analyzed using liquid chromatography-tandem mass spectrometry (LC-MS-MS) for DMAA. LC-MS-MS analysis revealed the presence of DMAA in 92.3% of the false-positive samples at a concentration of approximately 6.0 mg/L DMAA, causing a positive screen on both immunoassay kits.

Document Type: Research article

Affiliations: 1: Division of Forensic Toxicology, Armed Forces Medical Examiner System, Armed Forces Institute of Pathology, 1413 Research Boulevard, Building 102, Rockville, Maryland 20850;, Email: shawn.vorce@us.army.mil 2: Division of Forensic Toxicology, Armed Forces Medical Examiner System, Armed Forces Institute of Pathology, 1413 Research Boulevard, Building 102, Rockville, Maryland 20850

Publication date: 2011-04-01

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Nice job with the data man.

Maybe all you nay sayers should educate a little before giving advice to a guy about his kid taking amphetamines. Seriously.

[rbjax]

Abstract:
The Department of Defense (DoD) operates six forensic urine drug-testing laboratories that screen close to 5 million urine samples for amphetamines yearly. Recently, the DoD laboratories have observed a significant decrease in the confirmation rates for amphetamines because of specimens screening positive by two separate immunoassays and confirming negative by gas chromatography-mass spectrometry (GC-MS). Previous studies conducted by the Division of Forensic Toxicology, Armed Force Institute of Pathology (AFIP) utilizing a GC-MS basic drug screen and a designer drug screen revealed no common compound or compound classes as to the cause of the immunoassay-positive results. Additional information obtained from an immunoassay vendor suggested the anorectic compound dimethylamylamine (DMAA) may be the cause of the false-positive screens. An additional 134 false-positive samples were received and analyzed using liquid chromatography-tandem mass spectrometry (LC-MS-MS) for DMAA. LC-MS-MS analysis revealed the presence of DMAA in 92.3% of the false-positive samples at a concentration of approximately 6.0 mg/L DMAA, causing a positive screen on both immunoassay kits.

Document Type: Research article

Affiliations: 1: Division of Forensic Toxicology, Armed Forces Medical Examiner System, Armed Forces Institute of Pathology, 1413 Research Boulevard, Building 102, Rockville, Maryland 20850;, Email: shawn.vorce@us.army.mil 2: Division of Forensic Toxicology, Armed Forces Medical Examiner System, Armed Forces Institute of Pathology, 1413 Research Boulevard, Building 102, Rockville, Maryland 20850

Publication date: 2011-04-01

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Can someone break this down. What I see here is that the DOD was getting false positives, then changed the way they were doing the tests, now they are testing negative. Is that correct? I just posted a list of supplements that the Navy is recommending should no longer be taken in a different forum. Many of them have 1,3 D in them. I have a security clearance that I cannot lose. DOD is probably doing our drug tests so would that mean they are using the correct test method that would not produce a false positive? Any insight would be nice.

[arblargan]

A cheap drug test will sometimes cause 1,3 to show up positive for amphetamine's. However, the cheap drug tests will not be able to differentiate between a false positive and the real thing. If a false positive occurs on a cheap drug test, further analysis from a more sensitive machine is required to show exactly what substance triggered the positive result (such as a GC/MS).

Military drug tests go through two different stages, a cheap preliminary test first. If the cheap test comes up negative for everything, then that's as far as the sample goes and everything is good to go. However, if it comes up positive, if will go to a GC/MS to see exactly what substance caused the positive. If it is a substance that is banned, then the member will get charged for using drugs, but if it's something like Jack3D, then the person will be fine and never hear about the test coming up positive to begin with.