Obama: One of the top 5 greatest presidents in U.S. history.

[rocker1]

Can't wait for the full 8. I salivate at the thought of seeing this magnificent of Presidents representing me, my nation, and everything I stand for during that whole time.

MY PRESIDENT

[Stizzel]

i agree brah

[Kane_89]

when are you going to stfu about it?

[BetterBehaved]

Can't wait for the full 8. I salivate at the thought of sucking the cock of the black jesus while I tickle my butthole.

MY PRESIDENT

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[amtharin]

when are you going to stfu about it?

You're just mad because Stizzel stole your thunder.

[Vitalshok44]

you're just mad because stizzel stole your thunder.

lulz

[rocker1]

when are you going to stfu about it?

Kane I know you are from Texas but why do you hate him? Love the fact I still see his campaign posters everywhere in Seattle.

[rocker1]

My first family and most powerful couple in the world

[ZenBowman]

What is this? I don't even?

[nutsy54]

In keeping with the thread title:

Please name his top five accomplishments while in office so far. (Actual accomplishments... Not wishes or promises or lofty speeches, but actual actions and results).

[burnedfish]

In keeping with the thread title:

Please name his top five accomplishments while in office so far. (Actual accomplishments... Not wishes or promises or lofty speeches, but actual actions and results).

In for answer...looking forward to *crickets* for a while...

[rocker1]

In keeping with the thread title:

Please name his top five accomplishments while in office so far. (Actual accomplishments... Not wishes or promises or lofty speeches, but actual actions and results).

1. Achieving something most American presidents have wanted since Roosevelt which is universal health care (this is enough to make him historic).
2. Accomplishing the most major arms treaty since cold war.
3. Bringing the U.S. back from getting into the worst economic depression in 80 years. Funny how panicked this nation was a year ago but now no one talks about a depression?
4. Bringing transparency to Washington. He has adopted the most strongest anti-lobbying and transparent laws of any U.S. administration before him. Bringing Washington back to what is for: looking out for its people.
5. Making America respected again and the beacon of civilization again for the majority of the world.

Also there are many more accomplishments so far which makes his presidency a watershed moment in American history.

[amtharin]

4. Bringing transparency to washington. He has adopted the most strongest anti-lobbying and anti-transparent laws of any u.s. Administration before him. Bringing washington back to what is for: Looking out for its people.

wtf??

[rocker1]

wtf??

Stop paying attention to Glenn Beck.

Good government groups give Obama high grades on lobbying, transparency

By Dan Eggen
The White House gets high marks in a report issued Monday by four prominent good-government groups, who said anti-lobbying and ethics rules issued by President Obama have "begun the difficult process of changing the way business is done in Washington."

...

"The cumulative effect of the Administration's actions has been to adopt the strongest and most comprehensive lobbying, ethics and transparency rules and policies ever established by an Administration to govern its own activities," the groups say in their report. "The new rules and policies have begun the difficult process of changing the way business is done in Washington."

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/....html?wprss=44

[amtharin]

Stop paying attention to Glenn Beck.

Stop listening to the Good government groups, just open your eyes.

[rocker1]

Stop listening to the Good government groups, just open your eyes.

I suppose I should disdain all facts and go with own manufactured opinion no matter how removed from reality?

Bro you are just anti-Obama because you are and that is what you want to be. Not giving him credit for something so obvious says more about you than anything else.

[amtharin]

Not giving him credit for something so obvious says more about you than anything else.

Im truly at a lose for words. Mainly because you actually believe what you are saying.

You know who wrote the stimulus plan?? The apollo alliance. You know what they are LOBBYIST!!

[stubhub]

Eh, he's helped with credit card reform, more than anyone else can really say.

And although i have no idea whether or not i'm for the healthcare plan, I'm glad we're actually spending money on us, and not a useless, unwinnable war

[amtharin]

Eh, he's helped with credit card reform, more than anyone else can really say.

You know what that reform did?? It took away the credit card companies ability to charge fees for certain things. Less fees means less money, which means rate hikes for everyone.

Thanks Obama.

[rocker1]

Im truly at a lose for words. Mainly because you actually believe what you are saying.

Considering I have provided sources and you haven't, what would you think?

WASHINGTON � President Obama moved swiftly on Wednesday to impose new rules on government transparency and ethics, using his first full day in office to freeze the salaries of his senior aides, mandate new limits on lobbyists and demand that the government disclose more information.

Mr. Obama called the moves, which overturned two policies of his predecessor, �a clean break from business as usual.� Coupled with Tuesday�s Inaugural Address, which repudiated the Bush administration�s decisions on everything from science policy to fighting terrorism, the actions were another sign of the new president�s effort to emphasize an across-the-board shift in priorities, values and tone.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/22/us...pagewanted=all

[True.Briton]

Just kill yourself rocker1

[amtharin]

Considering I have provided sources and you haven't, what would you think?

How do you feel about lobbyist writing the stimulus bill??

[SDMuscleBuddy]

Im truly at a lose for words. Mainly because you actually believe what you are saying.

You know who wrote the stimulus plan?? The apollo alliance. You know what they are LOBBYIST!!

Actually, they are a think-tank, but assuming what you say is true, what benefits from the stimulus plan do the Apollo Alliance receive?

[nutsy54]

1. Achieving something most American presidents have wanted since Roosevelt which is universal health care (this is enough to make him historic).

The legislation that just passed isn't "Universal Health Care". Nor is it what the public wanted or supported.

2. Accomplishing the most major arms treaty since cold war.

He agreed to reduce weapon count by 30% (pending Senate approval).

You consider that more "major" that banning all nuclear weapons from the ocean floor in international waters (1972)? More "major" than banning them from space-based platforms (1967)? You believe this is more "major" than the SALT treaties, which established the first limits on nuclear warheads, and curtailed design of new missile systems (1970s)? Explain how START 1 (1991), which slashed nuclear warheads by 50% (numbering in the thousands), isn't as "major" as this treaty which cuts those numbers by 30% (numbering in the hundreds)

This is simply the latest in decades of nuclear arms treaties, which many Presidents have been involved in.

3. Bringing the U.S. back from getting into the worst economic depression in 80 years. Funny how panicked this nation was a year ago but now no one talks about a depression?

Funny how you forgot that President Obama was the one telling us all we were headed to that Depression. Right before he told Congress to pass that absurd Stimulus bill, or Unemployment would break 8%...

4. Bringing transparency to Washington. He has adopted the most strongest anti-lobbying and anti-transparent laws of any U.S. administration before him.

Let me guess: You have absolutely no idea how many times he's waived that anti-lobbyist Executive Order since he signed it, so that he could hire lobbyists into the senior government positions that you think they've been barred from...
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...for-lobbyists/

5. Making America respected again and the beacon of civilization again for the majority of the world.

As I specified in my simple request: No wishes or promises or lofty statements. What did he actually do to achieve those results (other than "not being George Bush" - because anyone could have done that). Maybe the world is happy that we pulled out of Iraq immediately and as promised? Oops. Maybe the world is happy we're no longer warmongering throughout the rest of the Middle East (well, except for Afghanistan, Pakistan, and everywherelseistan).

Wanna try that list again?

[rocker1]

Eh, he's helped with credit card reform, more than anyone else can really say.

Way more than anyone and I appreciate the fact my interest will not go up for a whim.

In the most sweeping changes to the credit card industry in 40 years, President Obama signed into law Friday an act to restrict practices he says contributed to consumers' financial problems during the recession.

"With this bill we are putting in place some common sense reforms designed to protect consumers," Obama said at a signing ceremony at the White House.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/...form-law_N.htm

[amtharin]

Actually, they are a think-tank, but assuming what you say is true, what benefits from the stimulus plan do the Apollo Alliance receive?

Its true..

"�This legislation is the first step in building a clean energy economy that creates jobs and moves us closer to solving our enormous energy and environmental challenges,� said Senator Harry Reid, the Nevada Democrat and Senate Majority Leader. �We�ve talked about moving forward on these ideas for decades. The Apollo Alliance has been an important factor in helping us develop and execute a strategy that makes great progress on these goals and in motivating the public to support them.�

-Harry Reid-

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2333469/posts


What did they get? $$$$

[SDMuscleBuddy]

The legislation that just passed isn't "Universal Health Care". Nor is it what the public wanted or supported.
He agreed to reduce weapon count by 30% (pending Senate approval).

You consider that more "major" that banning all nuclear weapons from the ocean floor in international waters (1972)? More "major" than banning them from space-based platforms (1967)? You believe this is more "major" than the SALT treaties, which established the first limits on nuclear warheads, and curtailed design of new missile systems (1970s)?

This is simply the latest in decades of nuclear arms treaties, which many Presidents have been involved in.
Funny how you forgot that President Obama was the one telling us all we were headed to that Depression. Right before he told Congress to pass that absurd Stimulus bill, or Unemployment would break 8%...
Let me guess: You have absolutely no idea how many times he's waived that anti-lobbyist Executive Order since he signed it, so that he could hire lobbyists into the senior government positions that you think they've been barred from...
As I specified in my simple request: No wishes or promises or lofty statements. What did he actually do to achieve those results (other than "not being George Bush" - because anyone could have done that). Maybe the world is happy that we pulled out of Iraq immediately and as promised? Oops. Maybe the world is happy we're no longer warmongering throughout the rest of the Middle East (well, except for Afghanistan, Pakistan, and everywherelseistan).

Wanna try that list again?

[Blindead]

1. Achieving something most American presidents have wanted since Roosevelt which is universal health care (this is enough to make him historic).
2. Accomplishing the most major arms treaty since cold war.
3. Bringing the U.S. back from getting into the worst economic depression in 80 years. Funny how panicked this nation was a year ago but now no one talks about a depression?
4. Bringing transparency to Washington. He has adopted the most strongest anti-lobbying and transparent laws of any U.S. administration before him. Bringing Washington back to what is for: looking out for its people.
5. Making America respected again and the beacon of civilization again for the majority of the world.

Also there are many more accomplishments so far which makes his presidency a watershed moment in American history.

i giggled like a schoolgirl

Eh, he's helped with credit card reform, more than anyone else can really say.

And although i have no idea whether or not i'm for the healthcare plan, I'm glad we're actually spending money on us, and not a useless, unwinnable war

me too. i'm so glad we're not wasting money in iraq anymore. oh, wait, whoops!

[rocker1]

Funny how you forgot that President Obama was the one telling us all we were headed to that Depression.

I was considering responding to you until I read that Nutsy. You are so partisan you will never say anything positive about our dynamic president even if he was to fly and touch the moon.

I suppose Greenspan, the RONALD REAGAN APPOINTED CHAIRMAN OF THE FED, wasn't the one to first say we were facing the biggest crisis since the Great Depression and is even bigger than the Great Depression (all due to Reaganomics)?

Greenspan said that while the economy was in worse shape in the Great Depression, the recent financial crisis was potentially more harmful than that in the 1930s because “never had short-term credit literally withdrawn.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...Q51QXlDA&pos=3

I honestly don't know how someone as nice and respectful as you Nutsy could be this far in the partisan bowl to ignore reality?

Again who is talking about an economic depression anymore let alone one that surpasses the Great Depression?

[amtharin]

I was considering responding to you until I read that Nutsy. You are so partisan you will never say anything positive about our dynamic president even if he was to fly and touch the moon.

I suppose Greenspan, the RONALD REAGAN APPOINTED CHAIRMAN OF THE FED, wasn't the one to first say we were facing the biggest crisis since the Great Depression and was even bigger than the Great Depression (all due to Reaganomics)?



I honestly don't know how someone as nice and respectful as you Nutsy could be this far in the partisan bowl to ignore reality?

Speaking of fed chairs did you see what Bernacke just said??

We have to raise taxes across the board, or cut spending drastically, or we are doomed.

Thanks Obama.