Pterostilbene

[spoch]

How much of this is useful to provide the insulin like capabilities studies have shown? In terms of milligrams of parts per million? I also see it's in Sizeon, but dont know how much...

[deserusan]

I can tell you that if you tried figuring out the human dosing based on the BSA method it's grossly wrong. While I'd like to you the dosing protocol, you'll have to read our patent app when it's published unfortunately.

[spoch]

So there's no way of knowing? I mean, can you tell me how much Sizeon has?

[deserusan]

So there's no way of knowing? I mean, can you tell me how much Sizeon has?

Not until our patent is published.

[spoch]

meaning, GN is the only company licensed to use Pterostilbene...??? im sorry, but what is the patent on, as other companies use it?

[spoch]

Bump?

[Achilles_1986]

meaning, GN is the only company licensed to use Pterostilbene...??? im sorry, but what is the patent on, as other companies use it?

Doubt it, Life Extension has some in one of their products. I am sure others will follow suit once it gains momentum like Trans Revs did.

[deserusan]

meaning, GN is the only company licensed to use Pterostilbene...??? im sorry, but what is the patent on, as other companies use it?

Doubt it, Life Extension has some in one of their products. I am sure others will follow suit once it gains momentum like Trans Revs did.

Gaspari is the only company using the pure compound in sports nutrition products and it is not effective in mcg doses. It acts completely different in the body than transresveratrol and in all honesty, is superior in terms of "effects" that are beneficial to bodybuilders concerned with building mass.

[spoch]

Desrusan: As of now though, aren't the only studies on rats? I still think its interesting and certainly kudo's to GN for using this in Sizeon....so you're saying GN will be the only company using Pterostilbene as an isolated ingredient, meaning NOT an extract fro the Blueberry?

[Achilles_1986]

Gaspari is the only company using the pure compound in sports nutrition products and it is not effective in mcg doses. It acts completely different in the body than transresveratrol and in all honesty, is superior in terms of "effects" that are beneficial to bodybuilders concerned with building mass.

Ok I was talking in terms for its anti-aging, anti-cancer and so forth claims. I figured other companies will use it in there products for that even though they claim 50-100mg,+ doses.

It did seem to work nicely on rats, lowering their blood glucose levels. Hopefully it works out well in humans....I am sure it will.

The LEF product uses (500 micrograms) is equivalent to over 20 cups of blueberries, lol I wonder what the dose you guys equals too. Side note last I planted 4 blueberry bushes and can't wait for them to bloom. Might take a couple of years to bloom a good amount though

[Sldge]

Gaspari is the only company using the pure compound in sports nutrition products and it is not effective in mcg doses. It acts completely different in the body than transresveratrol and in all honesty, is superior in terms of "effects" that are beneficial to bodybuilders concerned with building mass.

Its so much better then trans-res, on so many different levels.

[spoch]

Its so much better then trans-res, on so many different levels.

Can you expound on that?

[Sldge]

Can you expound on that?

Not right now. I dont know what Dan included in his patent and what he didnt.

Ive said a few times that I think Res needs other constituents found in the plant to help it work at optimal levels. I think over extraction to get a high % of Res makes it less effective then using a low % extract. Everyone sees all these health benefits from 1 or 2 glasses of red wine, the res content in that is very low so obviously there are other contributing factors.

[Robboe]

I wish i had more of it to mess around with for prolonged use rather than the small amount i got for acute usage.

[deserusan]

I wish i had more of it to mess around with for prolonged use rather than the small amount i got for acute usage.

Next time you are stateside I'll give you some.

[Robboe]

Good man!

[spoch]

Now, can an argument be made about the blueberry itself being good for insulin as it has chlorogenic acid AND Pterostilbene?

[deserusan]

Now, can an argument be made about the blueberry itself being good for insulin as it has chlorogenic acid AND Pterostilbene?

You'd have to eat an awful lot of blueberries and I'm not aware of an acute effect on insulin being attributed to chlorogenic acid.

[spoch]

I believe there's a good amount out there on it....

[De__eB]

Is there any trustworthy source to buy the raw ingredient?

[Sldge]

Is there any trustworthy source to buy the raw ingredient?

As a single ingredient? Not that I know of. Youd need to buy kgs of it from a raw material supplier and that would last you a long time.

[Zachattack43]

As a single ingredient? Not that I know of. Youd need to buy kgs of it from a raw material supplier and that would last you a long time.

prolly a few years and you will need a scale that measures in precise mg and mcg.

[spoch]

Would this suggest Pterostilbene would NOT be as useful for those that are not diabetic?

http://advancedmusclescience.blogspo...-nutrient.html

[spoch]

Bump

[Sldge]

Im not diabetic and I can tell you without a doubt that it works for lowering blood sugar. I tested it for more then 2 weeks and there was a definite drop in blood sugar.

[spoch]

How do you explain the study posted then?

[Rodzilla01]

This compound is also in BPI's Arimidex product...

[deserusan]

How do you explain the study posted then?

The study is in rats. Humans aren't rats.

[spoch]

Sometimes that can be debated....

Do you have any human studies showing this? Again, there seems to be more on Chlorogenic Acid then this....but Im still curious....

[spoch]

Bump?