Anyone else feel like the results they get are no where near what they deserve?(srs)

[AA43560]

For the effort they put in?





I mean, i serioulsy fuking bust my ass in the gym 4 days a week. Ive done various routines over the last couple years , ive counted calories, ive 'bulked' and honestly the gym is the only thing the keeps me sane. For having so much fun lifting yet getting very little out of it, i feel like im just chasing my own tail


And after two years of busting my ass, here i am with 15.5 inch semi fatceps, 36 inch chest , no definition anywhere and developing love handles. After two years instead of being 110 pounds skinny fat im now 175 pounds skinny fat.

It fuking sucks not enjoying having your shirt off after lifting very seriously for 2 years. I mean, being embarassed to take your fuking shirt off is a fat people trait ffs. I shouldnt feel this way after 2 years of extremely dedicated lifting.

Im not gonna say that i cry about this everyday, but il tell you whenever i see a weekend warrior thats been in the gym for a couple months max make more progress then me, i get fuking infuriated. Not sad or butthurt but straight up rage.


I mean seriously what the fuk can you do if your body doesnt want to cooperate with you? No matter how big my pecs get, im still gonna have these gay ass puffy nipples. And its not even gyno , its just my body being g@y as fuk.

I seriously feel like im swimming in a pool with an anchor attached to me.

Not looking for any fuking pity, just felt the need to vent.

[aci150]

youre stronger than a large majority of the population. go on a diet, lower your expectations, set reasonable goals, enjoy life and yourself.

[Bk2KtchnDumWmn]

bla bla bla put in more work pussy

[CCAurora]

Its probably your diet. I was the hardest worker in my college gym by far (I never saw anybody else do deads/squats even!), but my diet (well, and my genetics) worked against me.

More than anything, understanding WHEN to eat what things has helped me out. Keeping my simple sugars to PWO only has made a big difference!

[dunningkruger]

Stop worrying. You've accomplished a lot the last two years. Gaining 65 pounds of muscle/fat is no easy feat.

Cut for several months while continuing to kick ass at the gym and you'll get the rewards you want.

[_Ishy]

Maybe you should have learned how to exercise/work out correctly before investing 2 years of your life into it?

[AA43560]

youre stronger than a large majority of the population. go on a diet, lower your expectations, set reasonable goals, enjoy life and yourself.

What does strength even mean though if you look like ****

Not only are my strenght gains slow but theres literally no difference in how i look between when I deadlifted 315 and now when I deadlift 420+ (havnt tested max in a while)


I hate to sound like an emo ******* but its hard to enjoy yourself in life when the thing you enjoy the most doing is what you happen to suck balls at.

[chincup]

yes i been lifting for 3 years and iam not even big

[bb09]

I could feel that way - my progress has been pretty pathetic. But ultimately, that's almost certainly always been down to the fact that I've not eaten enough. Had I bothered to inform myself, I would have done better.

Shoulda woulda coulda doesn't get anyone anywhere, however. You just carry on and try to improve what you do.

[kojic.]

it's not about working hard, it's about working smart

[BrownThunder1]

What does your diet look like? I'm with you though. It seems like I hit a brick wall with bb

[AA43560]

bla bla bla put in more work pussy

Believe me even though im demotivated as fuk , i still chug down my white flood and bust my ass in the gym and with my diet

Its probably your diet. I was the hardest worker in my college gym by far (I never saw anybody else do deads/squats even!), but my diet (well, and my genetics) worked against me.

More than anything, understanding WHEN to eat what things has helped me out. Keeping my simple sugars to PWO only has made a big difference!

Appreciate the reply but with all due respect, i was the guy that would refuse to go out to eat with friends because of diet. I was always serious about diet, even though it sucked balls i always followed it with the hope that the end results will be worth it

Stop worrying. You've accomplished a lot the last two years. Gaining 65 pounds of muscle/fat is no easy feat.

Cut for several months while continuing to kick ass at the gym and you'll get the rewards you want.

I honestly wouldnt be surprised if 80 percent what i gained is fat

Maybe you should have learned how to exercise/work out correctly before investing 2 years of your life into it?

Ive actually worked otu for about 3 years. I didnt include the first year in my OP because i didnt know what i was doing.

[Amsterdammerr]

Juice, very srs

If my shoulder wasnt ****ed up I would have hit 200 this summer, kept on bulking through the winter, do a 10 week celltech cycle, end up 215 or so

And then cut down to 200 absolutely ****ing ripped, wouldve looked sick

Then shoulder injury occured

[Frannycakes]

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[AA43560]

it's not about working hard, it's about working smart

I try to work both hard AND smart. A bunch of my lifting buddies always tell me i always overthink things AKA working "too smart". The advice they give me is just "eat big and lift hard", as if thats not what im doing already

What does your diet look like? I'm with you though. It seems like I hit a brick wall with bb

Ive done various diets. Right now im on a 3000 calorie diet with around 220 grams of protein. Only reason its that low calories is because ive experimented with high calorie diets and i just get fat.

Anything under 2800ish i dont gain anything ive noticed

[bb09]

Juice, very srs

If my shoulder wasnt ****ed up I would have hit 200 this summer, kept on bulking through the winter, do a 10 week celltech cycle, end up 215 or so

And then cut down to 200 absolutely ****ing ripped, wouldve looked sick

Then shoulder injury occured

Stop recommending that people juice!

[affliction_]

You're only 19, give it a few more years

[AA43560]

Juice, very srs

If my shoulder wasnt ****ed up I would have hit 200 this summer, kept on bulking through the winter, do a 10 week celltech cycle, end up 215 or so

And then cut down to 200 absolutely ****ing ripped, wouldve looked sick

Then shoulder injury occured

You have no idea how much im consdering it.


Problem is i dont want my puffy nipples to turn into actual gyno. I dont have those solid glands behind my nipples but im afraid il develope them.

Plus baldness runs in my family

Im stuck between a rock and a hard place.


Im still looking at doing something mild like h-drol to give me back some confidence.

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im fuking enraged











lol just deactivated my ******** out of rage. Im so fuking pissed now i dont want to even hear about what other people are doing.

[BrownThunder1]

Juice? Orly

[anabolismandy]

present...i eat the healthiest out of anybody i know...count my macros, no sugar, startches...only lean meats, fish, veges, protein shakes, nuts, eggs, oats....still got a spare tire...

but...it is starting to come off...im getting about 1800cals a day right now (since the beginning of last month) and can see it diminishing after all these years...and i am gonna start an EC stack sunday...then the fun begins...

just keep truckin..some of us have to be way way way more strict than others to achieve like results...just the body type..sucks...but u live what you are dealt with...

[tanner1]

cut bro (srs) even if u aint big youll feel much better if your shredded and have a six pack etc... get ripped for summer, enjoy summer being lean as hell and then bulk cleanly afterwards for as long as it takes to reach your goal size.

[Stripez]

I try to work both hard AND smart. A bunch of my lifting buddies always tell me i always overthink things AKA working "too smart". The advice they give me is just "eat big and lift hard", as if thats not what im doing already



Ive done various diets. Right now im on a 3000 calorie diet with around 220 grams of protein. Only reason its that low calories is because ive experimented with high calorie diets and i just get fat.

Anything under 2800ish i dont gain anything ive noticed

there's your problem, fggt

"i just get fat"

not gonna expand on this anymore, but that fat is necessary

STFU and eat bigger, stop making up calorie counts, stop caring about being fat and maybe you wont be on here crying

[kenonator]

dude you went from 110 to 170....you made some major bulking gains! Go on a cut?

[lizzylamb]

I am jealous of those girls who are more genetically gifted than I am. But whatever, I still have room for improvement as well.

[Amsterdammerr]

Stop recommending that people juice!

OMG

Youre everywhere, there IS NO PLACE SAFE FOR ME ANYMORE fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Paraaaaaaaaaaanoiaaaaa kicking in 3,2,1

You have no idea how much im consdering it.


Problem is i dont want my puffy nipples to turn into actual gyno. I dont have those solid glands behind my nipples but im afraid il develope them.

Plus baldness runs in my family










lol just deactivated my ******** out of rage. Im so fuking pissed now i dont want to even hear about what other people are doing.

Dont H-drol or crap like that, waste of time/money/gains
Its exactly the same as a celltech cycle, I remember you helping me once with weights or some stuff about bench presses, time to return the favor

If you really wanna know more, pm me
Better safe then sorry

[OKPump]

post your regular diet.

also, you may only be making small/minimal progress right now and in the past 2years; but you have to realize that it's STILL progress nonetheless and it WILL add up.

[Penile_Dementia]

For the effort they put in?





I mean, i serioulsy fuking bust my ass in the gym 4 days a week. Ive done various routines over the last couple years , ive counted calories, ive 'bulked' and honestly the gym is the only thing the keeps me sane. For having so much fun lifting yet getting very little out of it, i feel like im just chasing my own tail


And after two years of busting my ass, here i am with 15.5 inch semi fatceps, 36 inch chest , no definition anywhere and developing love handles. After two years instead of being 110 pounds skinny fat im now 175 pounds skinny fat.

It fuking sucks not enjoying having your shirt off after lifting very seriously for 2 years. I mean, being embarassed to take your fuking shirt off is a fat people trait ffs. I shouldnt feel this way after 2 years of extremely dedicated lifting.

Im not gonna say that i cry about this everyday, but il tell you whenever i see a weekend warrior thats been in the gym for a couple months max make more progress then me, i get fuking infuriated. Not sad or butthurt but straight up rage.


I mean seriously what the fuk can you do if your body doesnt want to cooperate with you? No matter how big my pecs get, im still gonna have these gay ass puffy nipples. And its not even gyno , its just my body being g@y as fuk.

I seriously feel like im swimming in a pool with an anchor attached to me.

Not looking for any fuking pity, just felt the need to vent.

I try to work both hard AND smart. A bunch of my lifting buddies always tell me i always overthink things AKA working "too smart". The advice they give me is just "eat big and lift hard", as if thats not what im doing already



Ive done various diets. Right now im on a 3000 calorie diet with around 220 grams of protein. Only reason its that low calories is because ive experimented with high calorie diets and i just get fat.

Anything under 2800ish i dont gain anything ive noticed

Bro....

The results you've gotten are EXCELLENT for two years. You just could lose a little BF, go on a cut and don't expect to gain. 500 calories of carbs below the point where "you don't gain anything", so 2,300 to 2,500 cals, and high intensity cardio.

this you in November? You're hardly the michelin man



Cut the calories down to 500 less than where you don't gain anything.

[Ryan_Cunningham]

I mean, i serioulsy fuking bust my ass in the gym 4 days a week. Ive done various routines over the last couple years , ive counted calories, ive 'bulked' and honestly the gym is the only thing the keeps me sane. For having so much fun lifting yet getting very little out of it, i feel like im just chasing my own tail

We are our own worst critics. Chasing perfection causes us to focus on what we least admire about ourselves. Oftentimes I'll receive complements, yet what I see, and I imagine the majority of individuals with our passion see, is what they feel need to change.

This lifestyle isn't a race, it's a marathon. I've been at it for 7 years now and I've learned much, not only about how to achieve an admirable physique, but about myself. Lifting isn't just about looking good naked.

[bb09]

OMG

Youre everywhere, there IS NO PLACE SAFE FOR ME ANYMORE fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Paraaaaaaaaaaanoiaaaaa kicking in 3,2,1

Gotta spread dem bicepts around teh threadz.

[AA43560]

present...i eat the healthiest out of anybody i know...count my macros, no sugar, startches...only lean meats, fish, veges, protein shakes, nuts, eggs, oats....still got a spare tire...

but...it is starting to come off...im getting about 1800cals a day right now (since the beginning of last month) and can see it diminishing after all these years...and i am gonna start an EC stack sunday...then the fun begins...

just keep truckin..some of us have to be way way way more strict than others to achieve like results...just the body type..sucks...but u live what you are dealt with...

Yeah man i know what you mean. Problem is im not really in a position to either cut or bulk without major sacrifices.

If i cut il look like a skeleton. I dont have a big enough peak on my arms, and it will probably dissapear with a cut. My chest is only 36 inches, if i cut its probably gonna be reduced to 2 nipples on a flat chest lol.


On the other hand i can bulk slowly (which im doing now). Im trying my hardest to minimize fat gains, but going this route wont get rid of existing fat.

cut bro (srs) even if u aint big youll feel much better if your shredded and have a six pack etc... get ripped for summer, enjoy summer being lean as hell and then bulk cleanly afterwards for as long as it takes to reach your goal size.

See above.

I actually DID cut for a couple months. I just started my new clean bulk this month actually, so im fresh off a cut. I lost 5 pounds and noticed my abs getting tighter but it was obvious my arms were shriveling up and my chest was gonna be nonexistent after my cut. Plus strength gains slowed down. I just dont think its worth it at this point. Its not even a matter of willpower, since i actually prefer a cutting diet.

there's your problem, fggt

"i just get fat"

not gonna expand on this anymore, but that fat is necessary

STFU and eat bigger, stop making up calorie counts, stop caring about being fat and maybe you wont be on here crying

Thats the motto i followed when i first started lifting. I listened to rippeotes bull**** to just stuff my face and i got strong, but i just gained fat with no significant muscle.

dude you went from 110 to 170....you made some major bulking gains! Go on a cut?

Appreciate it, but i gained wayyyy too much fat for the small amount of muscle i gained. For the last year, the 175 was really just a number to inflate my ego.