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    Arrow Ok, so best back in history..

    Arnold, according to Flex Magazine, is not in the top 20 best backs of all time, and Franco was in the top 5. Please explain why?



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    This is what the flex mag says...

    Width frequently corresponds to height, but at 5'5", Columbu was broader than even bodybuilders who towered over him, and at his peak he likely never lost a back pose. In addition to his wideness, his lats, traps and spinal erectors were remarkably dense, due in part to his powerlifting background. Weighing around 200 pounds, the Sardinian strongman reportedly deadlifted more than 700.
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    I think Francos lats has better sweep than arnold's and he had incredibly thick spinal erectors.. that arnold could not match.. arnold had the detail... but the sheer thickness of franco's back was enough to win.
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    Plus arnold's back never looked like this...




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    Has to have lowest lats of all time and they are thick. And that top 20backs of all time in Flex was a load of ****.
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    more like most popular bodybuilders backs lol


    its ronnie then dorian end thread
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    i trained wit franco back in the day
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    Franco does have ridiculously low inserting lats - However Joel Stubb's back is pretty off the hook in terms of sheer size. Wolf probably has the widest back at the mo - would love to see a comparison between him and Stubbs from the back.
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    Francos lats are so damn thick and long that he almost doesn't have a christmas tree.
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    Arnold has a great back........but Franco has the whole package
    -Thickness
    -His lats insert damn hear at his waist
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    Originally Posted by wlf.vik83 View Post
    Width frequently corresponds to height, but at 5'5", Columbu was broader than even bodybuilders who towered over him, and at his peak he likely never lost a back pose. In addition to his wideness, his lats, traps and spinal erectors were remarkably dense, due in part to his powerlifting background. Weighing around 200 pounds, the Sardinian strongman reportedly deadlifted more than 700.
    x2, those pics say it all. Arnold's back was much thinner than Franco's. Arnold didn't have the same lat width and Franco also probably had the thickest back at the time as well. Arnold's back wasn't exactly one of his strong points in proportion to everything else.
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    Originally Posted by Agentdark45 View Post
    Franco does have ridiculously low inserting lats - However Joel Stubb's back is pretty off the hook in terms of sheer size. Wolf probably has the widest back at the mo - would love to see a comparison between him and Stubbs from the back.
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    Thumbs up I'll be BACK!

    Not the greatest by a mile but I think he coulda been up there in the Top 20, but regardless of what any poll or magazine decides it's a subjective sport and for some his back was to weak but for me..damn I'd love my back to look like that..obviously if he wasn't so tall or if his back was thicker it would have been that much more impressive....Not the greatest of all time but still a thumbs up in my book..









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    Arnold's back was underrated. He has some of the greatest genetics for bodybuilding of all time in my opinion.
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    Originally Posted by the-craig View Post
    Has to have lowest lats of all time and they are thick. And that top 20backs of all time in Flex was a load of ****.

    The FLEX list was accurate. Ronnie, Haney and Dorian in the top three. What do you mean load of ****? Can you explain why?
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    Because Franco has a better back than Arnold and Arnold could have made it in the top 25 or top 30 but not in the top 20. Sorry.
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    Originally Posted by tinyman5000 View Post
    i trained wit franco back in the day
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    Originally Posted by Patmuscled! View Post
    The FLEX list was accurate. Ronnie, Haney and Dorian in the top three. What do you mean load of ****? Can you explain why?
    Haney wasn't top 3, Joel Stubbs was. It was a load of **** because it had Art Atwood in never mind had him in the top 15, Jay Cutler was top 10 ahead of Victor Martinez. I cant remember all the rest of the list person for person but I'll dig it out tomorrow and I'll post again then the complete list and let others decide.
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    Originally Posted by the-craig View Post
    Haney wasn't top 3, Joel Stubbs was. It was a load of **** because it had Art Atwood in never mind had him in the top 15, Jay Cutler was top 10 ahead of Victor Martinez. I cant remember all the rest of the list person for person but I'll dig it out tomorrow and I'll post again then the complete list and let others decide.
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    Originally Posted by the-craig View Post
    Haney wasn't top 3, Joel Stubbs was. It was a load of **** because it had Art Atwood in never mind had him in the top 15, Jay Cutler was top 10 ahead of Victor Martinez. I cant remember all the rest of the list person for person but I'll dig it out tomorrow and I'll post again then the complete list and let others decide.
    I have that issue of Flex and if I remember it right, the list and the rankings were accurate enough. Joel Stubbs has one of the best backs ever. He's not a household name in bodybuilding but he deserved the placing. Jay's back is better than Victor's if you consider everything and not just on sheer genetics. Heck, Jay's back development even surpassed Ronnie's after 2005. And the "Back" is Art Atwood's best bodypart and one of the best in the pro ranks.
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    Originally Posted by Patmuscled! View Post
    I have that issue of Flex and if I remember it right, the list and the rankings were accurate enough. Joel Stubbs has one of the best backs ever. He's not a household name in bodybuilding but he deserved the placing. Jay's back is better than Victor's if you consider everything and not just on sheer genetics. Heck, Jay's back development even surpassed Ronnie's after 2005. And the "Back" is Art Atwood's best bodypart and one of the best in the pro ranks.
    I wasn't saying that Joel Stubbs had a bad back, what I was saying is that you were wrong in saying Lee Haney was in the top 3. Just because Art Atwoods best body part is his back, doesnt mean it should be included in this list, I can think of alot that are better than his. And there is no way Jay has a better back than Victor. Vctor has better detail, better shape, better taper and everything. Flex Wheeler coming 13th I thought was a joke as well.
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    Originally Posted by pumpet View Post
    This is only the tenth thread of best back in history.
    It was not so much to do with the best back in history, but more to do with comparing Arnold to Franco, but some **** list in Flex got brought up.
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    Originally Posted by the-craig View Post
    I wasn't saying that Joel Stubbs had a bad back, what I was saying is that you were wrong in saying Lee Haney was in the top 3. Just because Art Atwoods best body part is his back, doesnt mean it should be included in this list, I can think of alot that are better than his. And there is no way Jay has a better back than Victor. Vctor has better detail, better shape, better taper and everything. Flex Wheeler coming 13th I thought was a joke as well.
    It's your opinion that Martinez has a better back than Jay but many will disagree including the whole staff at Flex who may know a lot more better than a kid like you who is new to the sport.

    Flex Wheeler lack width in his back. The details are there but the width is not at par with the top 10 best "backs" of all time.
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    Originally Posted by Patmuscled! View Post
    It's your opinion that Martinez has a better back than Jay but many will disagree including the whole staff at Flex who may know a lot more better than a kid like you who is new to the sport.

    Flex Wheeler lack width in his back. The details are there but the width is not at par with the top 10 best "backs" of all time.
    A kid like me who is new to the sport. Right oh. I dont see how anybody can agree with the majority of that list. It isnt just me who thinks Martinez has the better back, it is what everyone was saying last Olympia. Flex lacks width but Cutler lacks detail. Martinez has them both but he is still behind Jay.
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    Originally Posted by wlf.vik83 View Post


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    it's just flat... no detail. not top 20.


    never saw the attraction to franco's back.
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    Originally Posted by Patmuscled! View Post
    I have that issue of Flex and if I remember it right, the list and the rankings were accurate enough. Joel Stubbs has one of the best backs ever. He's not a household name in bodybuilding but he deserved the placing. Jay's back is better than Victor's if you consider everything and not just on sheer genetics. Heck, Jay's back development even surpassed Ronnie's after 2005. And the "Back" is Art Atwood's best bodypart and one of the best in the pro ranks.
    lol that was a good one.cutler surpassing ronnie's back in 2005
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