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    Eating late at night

    I am always hungry late at night and usually just eat whatever because i was trying to bulk. Now that i am trying to cut is it still okay to eat late at night. I get home around 11 most nights because of work and i am usually pretty hungry. I have a small protein shake but that rarely fills me up but im afraid to eat anything else now because i dont wanna gain any fat. So is it okay and eat late at night when cutting and if okay what should i focus on eating?
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    Originally Posted by MuscleMan9111 View Post
    I am always hungry late at night and usually just eat whatever because i was trying to bulk. Now that i am trying to cut is it still okay to eat late at night. I get home around 11 most nights because of work and i am usually pretty hungry. I have a small protein shake but that rarely fills me up but im afraid to eat anything else now because i dont wanna gain any fat. So is it okay and eat late at night when cutting and if okay what should i focus on eating?
    It's a myth that what you eat at night makes you fat. Eat whatever you want, whenever you want...as long as it fits into your calorie and micro goals.
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    As far as timing goes, eating late at night won't specifically be unhealthier than eating during the day.
    And for what to eat, that depends on what you've already eaten that day!
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    Originally Posted by Chadillac2000 View Post
    It's a myth that what you eat at night makes you fat. Eat whatever you want, whenever you want...as long as it fits into your calorie and micro goals.
    pretty sure you shouldn't eat all your carbs before going to bed
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    Originally Posted by microspot View Post
    pretty sure you shouldn't eat all your carbs before going to bed
    Myth. Doesn't matter.
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    Originally Posted by Chadillac2000 View Post
    Myth. Doesn't matter.
    got a link to a good read for me to back that up?
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    Get frozen fish fillet.

    Grill the fillet (ZERO CARB) with seasoning, olive oil, lime juice.

    Make some salad - Romaine lettuce + Red pepper + Lime juice + LIGHT salad dressing (use sparingly)

    You will get protein from the fish with zero carb and healthy fats, omega fatty acids.
    You will get fiber and GOOD carbs from salad. Will fill u up guaranteed.

    I've been eating fish and salad for dinner and it's doing wonders for cutting
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    Originally Posted by microspot View Post
    pretty sure you shouldn't eat all your carbs before going to bed
    I think this is so logical. Yet I hear it's a myth so often, YET no one has evidence to back up either claim. hello?
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    Originally Posted by We Drowned View Post
    I think this is so logical. Yet I hear it's a myth so often, YET no one has evidence to back up either claim. hello?
    I don't think there is any set and stone scientific evidence that really backs up either side. But in all honesty, the fact that 98% of people on this site eat before bed and are not fat is all the evidence I need to know it is a myth.
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    Originally Posted by Scooter4 View Post
    I don't think there is any set and stone scientific evidence that really backs up either side. But in all honesty, the fact that 98% of people on this site eat before bed and are not fat is all the evidence I need to know it is a myth.
    yeah i bet that 90% of the people who eat before bed won't load up on carbs.
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    I train in the evenings and I have my pwo shake around 10pm and my pwo meal just before 11pm. I eat oats and egg whites or wholemeal bread with turkey. I have not found it to be a problem, only prob you might have is sleeping on a full stomach. As the above posters mentioned as long as it fits into your cals for the day you are good to go. Its fine. Just pick good food not bad food.

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    If you go over your calorie limit for the day, any kind of food will make u gain fat .. There is no magic food u can eat at night and not gain weight from. If it fits in your macros for the day u can have carbs no problems. --

    Actually, when i was playing soccer i always trained from bout 19 - 21 PM , and ate a big plate of pasta when i came home, so around 22-23 .. Never gained any fat from it
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    sum people have slower metabolisms...and water gain might be the issue. Thats where carbs at night get in my way.
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    Originally Posted by microspot View Post
    got a link to a good read for me to back that up?
    Just try it out. I eat carbs before bed all the time and don't gain weight from it. You gain weight from eating too many calories, plain and simple. You don't gain weight from eating too much of one macro, and certainly not from eating it at a certain time of day. You really think your body knows what hour it is and if the sun goes down that it should store carbs as body fat?
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    Originally Posted by MuscleMan9111 View Post
    I am always hungry late at night and usually just eat whatever because i was trying to bulk. Now that i am trying to cut is it still okay to eat late at night. I get home around 11 most nights because of work and i am usually pretty hungry. I have a small protein shake but that rarely fills me up but im afraid to eat anything else now because i dont wanna gain any fat. So is it okay and eat late at night when cutting and if okay what should i focus on eating?
    To your digestive system, the time of day doesn't matter. Nutrients are digested exactly the same way around the clock.

    What matters is the sum of your calories and nutrients over each 24hr period, and the timing of your nutrition in relation to your training to achieve your goal (in your case, to achieve the most efficient muscle recovery and preservation, while minimizing fat gain).

    My recommendation for late night eating would be some fast digesting whey protein to spike the blood's amino acid profile (induces muscle recovery), mixed with plenty of slow digesting casein protein (prevents catabolism while you sleep), and fat (slows digestion further).

    I would actually recommend that to anyone looking to preserve muscle, since it's a very anti-catabolic pre-bedtime meal. I'm on a 1400cal, 25g carb ketogenic diet, and before I climb into bed each night, I always have 2 servings of 2% cottage cheese with 1/2 scoop of my favorite whey powder mixed in. Anti-catabolic nutrition + heavy lifting every day = no muscle loss
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    I'm on the same boat as you bud I quit eating starchy carbs after 9 pm so when I get home from worl I usually have a protein shake and 2 tbsp of all natural smuckers pb and maybe a tbsp of olive oil. Sometimes I will have a can of chciken or tuna or maybe turkey. I try to take in my efas at night.

    I was bulking (still am) but started gaing some fat as my weight was 216 lbs then started doing this and cutting out dairy more as well. I lost 10 lbs and 1.5% bf buta m still gaining strenghth
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    keep eating at night, try to just get a slow digesting protein with a healthy fat. Like a casein shake with some peanut butter. Or Cottage cheese and some PB. Or you can go the delicious route and make a protein brownie!
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    Chris Aceto has mentioned a few times that having a carb-rich final meal before bed limits GH potential.

    Me, i don't buy into that as much, still sounds a bit too myth'y to me (yes i make up words on the spot ). If one's had few carbs during the daytime, and has more of their carbs before bed, i doubt GH is gonna be affected all that dramatically.

    Me, i train at 9-10pm. So like my user title says, i eat carbs at 11pm no problem. I'm nowhere near fat, and i'm nowhere near small. Been doing it for years. On days that i don't train, i do cut back carbs (and food in general) since i'm busier of a night time and use my time for other things. That's the only difference for me.
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    Originally Posted by Chadillac2000 View Post
    You gain weight from eating too many calories, plain and simple.
    Agreed.

    But

    Here's what happens in your body when eating carbs:

    If people consume more carbohydrates than they need at the time, the body stores some of these carbohydrates within cells (as glycogen) and converts the rest to fat.
    Assuming you take a post workout shake with carbs to replenish your muscle glycogen as you should, you don't need more carbs before bed.
    Since not much will be stored in the muscles, it will be stored into fat.

    What about proteins:

    The body needs proteins to maintain and replace tissues and to function and grow.
    Because proteins are complex molecules, the body takes longer to break them down.
    Protein is one form of food that the body spends more energy digesting and processing inside your body.
    And you need protein to rebuild the muscles from the workout.

    And let's not forget insulin sensitivity at night:

    Any carbohydrates that you take in at night will not be absorbed effectively in muscle cells due to the decreased insulin sensitivity.
    It is not absorbed effectively by the muscle cells so it is stored as fat.

    In the end it's all about the cals, but what you eat and when makes a difference because your body absorbs/utilizes the macros differently. Just my opinion I'm not a dietitian but I'll stick with my almonds and protein before bed
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    Originally Posted by microspot View Post
    Agreed.

    But

    Here's what happens in your body when eating carbs:



    Assuming you take a post workout shake with carbs to replenish your muscle glycogen as you should, you don't need more carbs before bed.
    Since not much will be stored in the muscles, it will be stored into fat.

    What about proteins:



    And you need protein to rebuild the muscles from the workout.

    And let's not forget insulin sensitivity at night:



    It is not absorbed effectively by the muscle cells so it is stored as fat.

    In the end it's all about the cals, but what you eat and when makes a difference because your body absorbs/utilizes the macros differently. Just my opinion I'm not a dietitian but I'll stick with my almonds and protein before bed

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    Originally Posted by MuscleMan9111 View Post
    I am always hungry late at night and usually just eat whatever because i was trying to bulk. Now that i am trying to cut is it still okay to eat late at night. I get home around 11 most nights because of work and i am usually pretty hungry. I have a small protein shake but that rarely fills me up but im afraid to eat anything else now because i dont wanna gain any fat. So is it okay and eat late at night when cutting and if okay what should i focus on eating?
    When you eat you will gain cals in your body. When you do this before going to bed your body will transform your cals into fat, because you arent burning them. so i guess it is bad, eating before going to bed!
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    I would say keep the same discipline as you would during the day. I usually have a shake and a small apple, some grapes, bluebarries, or some type of fruit about 1 hour before I got to bed.
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    Originally Posted by Zerafian View Post
    I would say keep the same discipline as you would during the day. I usually have a shake and a small apple, some grapes, bluebarries, or some type of fruit about 1 hour before I got to bed.
    Isn't fruit bad to eat? I've read the simple sugars in fruit spikes your insulin levels and that's you should only eat fruit post workout cuz of it. so woukdnt it store as fat at night when eating to much of them or eating fruit before bed?
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    Isn't fruit bad to eat? I've read the simple sugars in fruit spikes your insulin levels and that's you should only eat fruit post workout cuz of it. so woukdnt it store as fat at night when eating to much of them or eating fruit before bed?
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    Originally Posted by Chadillac2000 View Post
    It's a myth that what you eat at night makes you fat. Eat whatever you want, whenever you want...as long as it fits into your calorie and micro goals.
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    I eat every night before I go to bed....I think I have pictures to prove you don't get FAT from it. You have to watch your daily calories....about it.
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    There is a mention of eating late in this vid.

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    Eat proteins before bed if you're hungry and limit your carbs right before bed. If this doesn't fit into your macros or calories, then don't eat before bed.

    You will be feeding your muscles throught the night. This is why milk protein/casein is so popular right before bed. You sleep for about 8 hours, and your body goes this entire time without food. That's putting your body into starvation mode while you sleep. The best thing is to feed it slow digesting proteins before bed, then eat more proteins in the morning (eggs, milk, etc.)
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