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    Originally Posted by mojo85 View Post
    Half way through my first and only test booster, T-Bol. I honestly dont feel any different, no added erections, no extra drive, no gains...just feel the same? Diet/training is in check but nothing. Leads me to believe that most test boosters also have a major placebo effect.

    What do I have to back this up? Nothing, just my own personal worthless opinion but I felt like I should post it.
    I agree. I went through 2 bottles of activate extreme and did not notice much other than wallet loss. I really feel like test boosters are placebo and garbage. There is creatine and then PH. Nothing in the middle like people think test boosters are. But again this is my opinion as well so flame away with all of your one lines from abstracts and the Bro reviews.
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    Originally Posted by Big_Pete1000 View Post
    I agree. I went through 2 bottles of activate extreme and did not notice much other than wallet loss. I really feel like test boosters are placebo and garbage. There is creatine and then PH. Nothing in the middle like people think test boosters are. But again this is my opinion as well so flame away with all of your one lines from abstracts and the Bro reviews.
    I'm on week 2 of bioforge. I'm not sure if it's really kicked in yet (I do feel more youthful and confident and strong but that could all be placebo). One thing is NOT placebo: my balls are freaking huge. I mean, I have never felt them this huge. They are at least twice the size of normal. So the product is doing something. I've heard it's supposed to really kick in around week 3 so we'll see...
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    Originally Posted by Kung-fusion View Post
    I'm on week 2 of bioforge. I'm not sure if it's really kicked in yet (I do feel more youthful and confident and strong but that could all be placebo). One thing is NOT placebo: my balls are freaking huge. I mean, I have never felt them this huge. They are at least twice the size of normal. So the product is doing something. I've heard it's supposed to really kick in around week 3 so we'll see...
    LOL if that's an actual size increase I wouldn't call it placebo...
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    Originally Posted by AConrad00 View Post
    While what you said about the ATD metabolites causing a false reading for testosterone levels... that would be the first time i've ever heard that. I cant really comment on much that i'm not too aware of though, sorry.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7...&ordinalpos=90

    Did I even mentioned your own peer-reviewed Novedex study where no increase in LBM or strength was found?
    And what about your argument "2 million bottles sold so it must be amazing!"? Brb buying the 50,000,000th tub of Cell Techzzz!
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    Originally Posted by Kung-fusion View Post
    I'm on week 2 of bioforge. I'm not sure if it's really kicked in yet (I do feel more youthful and confident and strong but that could all be placebo). One thing is NOT placebo: my balls are freaking huge. I mean, I have never felt them this huge. They are at least twice the size of normal. So the product is doing something. I've heard it's supposed to really kick in around week 3 so we'll see...
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    I was never a fan of increasing test by manipulating estrogen lower via ais. Low estrogen poses numerous side effects, decreased glycogen replenishment, lower gh, sore joints, decreased libido, even headaches due to serotonin shifts.
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    in my second week of the BEC stack. All I really notice is recovery.
    I am not sore the next day like I use to get...

    but feeling pumps all day after I work out frm the cbol I suppose...
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    Originally Posted by JOEYTHEJEW View Post
    in my second week of the BEC stack. All I really notice is recovery.
    I am not sore the next day like I use to get...

    but feeling pumps all day after I work out frm the cbol I suppose...
    I don't know what your diet is but if you're not bulking massively, and I mean eating like 4000+ calories of high quality proteins and good carbs and fat per day, then you are simply not going to see much change in two weeks.

    I am starting my BET stack soon and I am not expecting much except additional re-composition during my cut. I'm two weeks into my 8 week cut and I'll do the final 6 weeks with the stack. I expect only that I'll get a nicer cut and potentially keep all of my mass during this interval. I am not expecting to gain muscle.
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    just so everyone knows, i've received an infraction for my posts in this thread... any further questions or concerns about novedex xt can be directed to my PM inbox


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    Originally Posted by davidl351 View Post

    where are TL's and Bio's eye candy?
    and theres plenty more where that came from

    Originally Posted by freudslip View Post
    I want truthspeaker to enlighten ot

    I'm not trying to troll or bait, but I don't see how truthspeakeer went to turkesterone in the middle east and got tribulus standardized at a 20% extract, stacks it with resveratrol, divinal, and some other stuff and calls it 500% stronger then MENT.
    i dont really follow this statement but when did Ron say this was stronger than MENT?! and buy MENT do you mean the compound ment or the cyp/DHEA test blend ment .... either way its BS!

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    just so everyone knows, i've received an infraction for my posts in this thread... any further questions or concerns about novedex xt can be directed to my PM inbox


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    You got an infraction for this thread? I wouldn't have thought any of your posts came even close to violating any rules of any sort...

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    You got an infraction for this thread? I wouldn't have thought any of your posts came even close to violating any rules of any sort...

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    I consider myself a light-responder, but test boosters worked for me.

    Ran two bottles of Bioforge, no diet, no workout, and lost 2-3 inches on my waistline. Didn't get that alphamale glow or libido kick like I did from DTH + Sunami, but will definitely run again for a cut.

    Ordered Activate + Tbol for my next stack.

    Other stuff I tried - Sopharma Tribulus - worked for a couple days, then faded quick . Libido boost was really high for a day or two. Formex - definitely worked. Not as strong as DTH or Bioforge, tho.
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    Has anyone else noticed that nearly everyone that is slamming T-Bol is under 30 and those that like it's affects are over 30?

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    I love bioforge and nxt

    I am currently on day 11 on Bioforge (have 2 bottles) 2-1-1 and 1 cap of NXT at night and it is absolutely working beyond anything Ive ever used. Down 7 lbs, -2 ins. on waist, arms +3/4 inch and noticeably harder. Mind and body feels remarkable to say the least. I agree with most, Ive tried the rest, NOW I HAVE THE BEST. I PROMISE you this, if you've tried some test boosters like me and have had NO success, try Bioforge. THIS STUFF ROCKS!
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    Just gonna post this here and see how many people I can piss off, lol. But actually this is a serious post and something I've been thinking about for a long time.

    It is pretty much common bro-knowledge and generally accepted that oral HGH boosters are crap, and that anybody who buys one is wasting money. The general consensus seems to be that whatever rise there may be in GH (as measured by total or % increase or whatever) really makes no difference in strength/recovery/lean mass gains over time. The numbers look good (7000% increase!) but the actual meaning is little to nothing.

    How come we haven't come to the same conclusion about these natty test boosters? To me, the potential correlation and conclusion seems too obvious to ignore and throw out completely?

    I say this as somebody who has used both of the products that the OP mentioned in this thread (which was created to start drama), and has also used test boosters made by many companies that I love and support. Animal Test, Activate and Activate Xtreme, Rebound Reloaded, Inhibit E, just to name a few. I'm sure there are more. So I hope this comes across as me not flaming the drama, but it is a question I've been kicking around.
    The thing about HGH is that:
    1)HGH is released in cycles by the pituitary, it is released in 5-6 cycles per day. Thus if you go on to measure HGH levels in the blood during the day you will observe huge differences during the day. GABA and glutamine(just to recall two) have been shown to increase HGH levels by 800%+ when taken on a fasting state and Glutamine is well known to be proven worthless for increasing athletic perfomance. Donno about GABA I love it as a sleep aid but never could say I experienced any positive recomp effects from it.
    Thus increasing HGH blood levels after one dose means it stimulates HGH release but in no way it means it stimulates HGH production(hintroductions of hormones do not increase by 7000% in minutes).
    The only way to measure how effective is a supplement at actually increasing HGH production would be to take multip[le blood samples during the day. To my knowledge no company has done that, the reasons I let for everyone to decide
    2)HGH as an anabolic is much weaker than AAS. Any performance enhancing drugs user that has used HGH and AAS can affirm this and it also becomes obvious if you compare the numbers from AAS studies with those from the HGH study. HGH by itself undergoes many fluctuations in concentration throughout the day and we don't see much difference in mood,energy levels, anabolism e.t.c. due to this. Meanwhile increases/decreases of 30-40% in sexual hormone levels can have very profound effects on mood, body physiology e.t.c.
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    Originally Posted by freudslip View Post
    flame bait posts? dude it's an internent forum. They arent designed to be taken seriously.
    It is called the misc section brah.
    Thank you for trying to get fun where some people come for actual information
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    Originally Posted by freudslip View Post
    flame bait posts? dude it's an internent forum. They arent designed to be taken seriously.
    Wrong.

    Originally Posted by softballmasher View Post
    I am currently on day 11 on Bioforge (have 2 bottles) 2-1-1 and 1 cap of NXT at night and it is absolutely working beyond anything Ive ever used. Down 7 lbs, -2 ins. on waist, arms +3/4 inch and noticeably harder. Mind and body feels remarkable to say the least. I agree with most, Ive tried the rest, NOW I HAVE THE BEST. I PROMISE you this, if you've tried some test boosters like me and have had NO success, try Bioforge. THIS STUFF ROCKS!
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    Originally Posted by THEHUGE View Post
    Wrong.



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    Originally Posted by freudslip View Post
    flame bait posts? dude it's an internent forum. They arent designed to be taken seriously.
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    What do you mean "Wrong."?
    He means you're wrong. Is that really tough to understand? Lets hope he doesn't start using words with multiple syllables next... that would be WAY too confusing.

    You posted in the regular supp forum, not the supp misc forum. So things here ARE taken seriously. You just flat out admitted you were trolling.

    Or was the entire point of this thread so you could try to score some free product from TL to shut you up?
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    Originally Posted by shadar View Post
    He means you're wrong. Is that really tough to understand? Lets hope he doesn't start using words with multiple syllables next... that would be WAY too confusing.

    You posted in the regular supp forum, not the supp misc forum. So things here ARE taken seriously. You just flat out admitted you were trolling.

    Or was the entire point of this thread so you could try to score some free product from TL to shut you up?
    I never admitted I was flat out trolling. To score some free product from TL? are you high?
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    Originally Posted by freudslip View Post
    I never admitted I was flat out trolling. To score some free product from TL? are you high?
    I see what you do in the red there.
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