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    How much to charge to Plan a Diet?

    I am trying to figure out what to charge for just a diet plan (and find the right software for that, but that's another story).

    I would be providing full email support, a diet layout, examples, etc. Also providing a chart for weekly progress for motivational purposes. (weight loss)

    How much is reasonable to charge?
    Would it be feasible to charge on a monthly basis?
    Should I start it out free?
    Should I try and sell a 3 month package up front?

    I would be using Derek Charlebois's methods, and common sense.

    Is there something else you would add to this service to make it more valuable? Has anyone done this before?
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    I charge 100 for the plan....
    I have them use Nutrimirror.com to follow thru and to chart everything...
    Plus, nutrimirror is free
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    Originally Posted by E_Scapegoat View Post
    I am trying to figure out what to charge for just a diet plan (and find the right software for that, but that's another story).

    I would be providing full email support, a diet layout, examples, etc. Also providing a chart for weekly progress for motivational purposes. (weight loss)

    How much is reasonable to charge?
    Would it be feasible to charge on a monthly basis?
    Should I start it out free?
    Should I try and sell a 3 month package up front?

    I would be using Derek Charlebois's methods, and common sense.

    Is there something else you would add to this service to make it more valuable? Has anyone done this before?
    Do you have a nutrition certification, or are you a registered nutritionist/dietician? If not, and you live in US, I believe it's illegal to do what you're planning to do. If you have a certification you can only be a "nutritional consultant" but should still network with RDs for folks who may have health issues who ask you for help. You don't want to get sued for giving unqualified advice.
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    ^^^ what the guy above said, if your certified in nutrition or have a degree, then by all means, supply nutritional advice. Otherwise, dont try. It only take 1 wrong reccommendation and you can be in big trouble. I do suggest getting certified/degree in nutrition, cause it is a good market for it.
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    Originally Posted by tovlakas View Post
    Do you have a nutrition certification, or are you a registered nutritionist/dietician? If not, and you live in US, I believe it's illegal to do what you're planning to do. If you have a certification you can only be a "nutritional consultant" but should still network with RDs for folks who may have health issues who ask you for help. You don't want to get sued for giving unqualified advice.

    correct. this will put the issue to rest. The forum won't allow me to post the entire link but put this into google and it should show up athleteinme.com/ArticleView.aspx?id=264

    It's not in the PT scope of practice to give anything more than general recommendations of healthy eating. "water is good" would be an example of something OK.

    There are plenty of PT's out there are capable of giving very good nutrition advice....but it is a liability without the proper credentials....don't get burnt dude.
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    Originally Posted by tovlakas View Post
    Do you have a nutrition certification, or are you a registered nutritionist/dietician? If not, and you live in US, I believe it's illegal to do what you're planning to do.
    I would be less concerned with the law, and more concerned with ethics... which is usually more stringent than the law.
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    There are plenty of PT's out there are capable of giving very good nutrition advice
    Here we say that within the PT's standard of care - what you guys call "scope of practice" - is "nutritional first aid."

    For example, I give people a journal where they tick each time they have a portion of fruit, vegies, nuts, beans, meat, fish, dairy & eggs, starch, junk or alcohol.

    After a week or two they see patterns. "Hmmm, today I had 11 portions of starch, 4 of meat, 2 dairy, 6 of junk, 3 of booze... zero vegies, fruit, nuts, beans, fish... I wonder if this is why I am overweight and often sick, have high blood pressure and gout." It's not going beyond my standard of care to say, "people who eat a wide variety of foods, and have little or no junk food or alcohol, tend to be healthier than those who don't."

    It's within my standard of care to encourage awareness of what a person's eating, and to recommend they eat a wider variety of foods, with less junk and alcohol. But once they've got that sorted, if they want to know more, and/or if they have conditions affecting their diet, I refer them to a nutritionist or dietician.

    I'm sure as hell not giving anyone meal plans or prescribing calories or macros. I don't expect someone's dietician to tell them how to barbell squat, I'm not going to give people meal plans. Respect the professional expertise of others just as you wish them to respect your own.
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    Originally Posted by tovlakas View Post
    Do you have a nutrition certification, or are you a registered nutritionist/dietician? If not, and you live in US, I believe it's illegal to do what you're planning to do. If you have a certification you can only be a "nutritional consultant" but should still network with RDs for folks who may have health issues who ask you for help. You don't want to get sued for giving unqualified advice.
    Does anyone have any insight into Isagenix and how some trainers are able to offer it without a degree in nutrition? There is a local trainer that pushes it big time, in fact I think he requires you take it as part of his training package and he is not a dietician or nutritionist. Just curious...
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    Anyone can sell supps. Selling supplements is to dietary issues what selling weight plates is to doing workouts. They can sell it to you, it's up to you what you do with them. You don't need to be a dietician to sell supplements anymore than you need to be a PT to sell workout gear.

    Especially if the supplements actually have zero effect on the person's health, good or bad.

    That said, if a gym pushes supplements on a person, I recommend they find another gym, and if a trainer requires you buy their junk as part of their package, I recommend nobody work with that trainer at all.
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    i personally have some nutrition software that i go over with my clients! it breaks everything down to the T!! Ive never seen anything so easy and accurate! Ive been using it with all my clients with huge results! it shows your BMR, exercise calories, sedentary needs etc and shows what your burning each day and then it lays at all your meals. The program has almost any food u can think of! Very user friendly you dont have to be genius to use it! As long as you have basic nutrition skills your golden!

    if anyone is interested in more hit me up and let me kno.
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    Nutrition planning

    I personally charge $200 a month. I am also very engaged with my clients on even a daily basis. Helping them overcome there struggles, finding them new ways to make healthy food taste good, etc. I also require weekly pictures to track progress, and all clients get full access to text and email. I have also trained national level competitors and have been a personal trainer in "gym setting" for 7 years. When I coaching my clients I am also developing individualized routines for ALL components. Diet, Weights, Cardio, and Supplements. So My answer is depending on how much your willing to give you client! I have charged $400 a month but I like to help as many people possible so I bring my rates down to $200 to make it achieveable to work with me. BUT ALWAYS FOLLOW THRU AND GIVE THEM THERE MONEYS WORTH!
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    Originally Posted by tbrady12 View Post
    i personally have some nutrition software that i go over with my clients! it breaks everything down to the T!! Ive never seen anything so easy and accurate! Ive been using it with all my clients with huge results! it shows your BMR, exercise calories, sedentary needs etc and shows what your burning each day and then it lays at all your meals. The program has almost any food u can think of! Very user friendly you dont have to be genius to use it! As long as you have basic nutrition skills your golden!

    if anyone is interested in more hit me up and let me kno.
    that sounds really sweet dude, you have a link? id like to check that out
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    Originally Posted by tovlakas View Post
    Do you have a nutrition certification, or are you a registered nutritionist/dietician? If not, and you live in US, I believe it's illegal to do what you're planning to do. If you have a certification you can only be a "nutritional consultant" but should still network with RDs for folks who may have health issues who ask you for help. You don't want to get sued for giving unqualified advice.
    Is it legal in the UK to take commission's upon developing someone a diet plan ?
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    Originally Posted by tbrady12 View Post
    i personally have some nutrition software that i go over with my clients! it breaks everything down to the T!! Ive never seen anything so easy and accurate! Ive been using it with all my clients with huge results! it shows your BMR, exercise calories, sedentary needs etc and shows what your burning each day and then it lays at all your meals. The program has almost any food u can think of! Very user friendly you dont have to be genius to use it! As long as you have basic nutrition skills your golden!

    if anyone is interested in more hit me up and let me kno.
    hey i would love to know!
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    hey i would love to know!
    I'm curious too, if you're still about!
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    Can you please tell me the nutrition software please. i am a personal Nutritionist

    Originally Posted by tbrady12 View Post
    i personally have some nutrition software that i go over with my clients! it breaks everything down to the T!! Ive never seen anything so easy and accurate! Ive been using it with all my clients with huge results! it shows your BMR, exercise calories, sedentary needs etc and shows what your burning each day and then it lays at all your meals. The program has almost any food u can think of! Very user friendly you dont have to be genius to use it! As long as you have basic nutrition skills your golden!

    if anyone is interested in more hit me up and let me kno.

    I am interested . what is the software please
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    what is the software name please
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    I'm wondering if NPTI gave you any thoughts on personal trainers making diets for people? It might be worthwhile going back to your instructor and picking their brain on this. Making diets can be tricky depending on the state you live in. In some states only RDs can make diets. I'm not sure about your area so you best look into this first. Also, your liability insurance may not cover you when you make diets. This would be an issue if you made a diet for someone with a medical issue. For example, if your client was taking blood thinners and you made a diet with lots of green vegetables, which are often contraindicated with blood thinners.

    Instead of wondering how much to charge, I often recommend trainers reach out to local RDs and try to collaborate with them. Just google "RD + your zip code" and they should show up. Look at a few websites and find one you think would be a good fit with you and your clients. Then call them on the phone and discuss possible cross promoting each other. Then, you let the RD do what she/he does best and they also hand out your business card to their clients. I'd bet most RDs would be very open to this idea.

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