Lyle Mcdonald and Rippetoe go to war (ya rly)

[JMB987]

Alan Araganon or w/e his name is, Rip, and Lyle are all full of b.s.

they know way more then the average person but they aren't PHD's, they haven't run any tests themselves.

They are nothing more than the kings of broscience.

Dead (srs)

[MUFC]

325 for 11.

You're not making a point.

[GodsAngina]

Rippetoe will get you strong,...but at the cost of clogged arteries. I like how he teaches the importance of technique, but I will never adopt his eating guidelines.

to be fair, he does say you should only do that for the first few months when you're doing starting strength.

[GetBigyo]

Alan Araganon or w/e his name is, Rip, and Lyle are all full of b.s.

they know way more then the average person but they aren't PHD's, they haven't run any tests themselves.

They are nothing more than the kings of broscience.

Dead (srs)

When it comes to nutrition...Alan Aragon is probably the most knowledgable poster on this forum by far.

[Fuzzy_Logic]

where did I say he hated them? He and Lon Kilgore, prof of Ex science Texas Uni say a most of what is considered by academics to be facts about strength and hypoertrophy training is BS.

You didn't say that. He clearly stated that in the quote I made of him.

Rippetoe will get you strong,...but at the cost of clogged arteries. I like how he teaches the importance of technique, but I will never adopt his eating guidelines.

Clogged arteries? How so, please enlighten me.

[DanTheManB]

the almighty****, ****ging up the place again with his *******ry

this

[GodsAngina]

You're not making a point.

I disagree.

[BlitzKrag]

lo****ingl

he can keep those gainz.. i dont want anything to do with that

[MUFC]

I disagree.

Fetal alcohol syndrome, imo.

[GetBigyo]

Never really heard of Lyle.....I mean I read some stuff on his site but I dont really know exactly who he is but he seems like a credible source.

Was he like a bodybuilder or powerlifter or something?

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[sword_]

Lyle is a nutritional expert so in for ownage.

[Fuzzy_Logic]

Lyle is a nutritional expert so in for ownage.

Anybody can be an "expert" of anything.

[GodsAngina]

Fetal alcohol syndrome, imo.

That's not very nice.

[Anomynous]

I lol at how Almighty**** can't post in a thread without at least 3 people calling him a *******.

[invain]

I respect Lyle, and especially Alan because of his credentials, but to be honest the fact that I've never seen anything that suggest they actually apply their knowledge to their own bodies makes me take everything they say with a grain of salt.

[Tes45]

I mean that kid got big as hell fast. 125x5 squats to 340x5 in 6 months?

I mean, he put on ****in 80 lbs. Like most people pointed out, it's probably 45 lbs of fat, but who fukin cares?

The kid could cut back down right now and make like a 35 lb LBM in one year.

[MUFC]

That's not very nice.

Oh.

I respect Lyle, and especially Alan because of his credentials, but to be honest the fact that I've never seen anything that suggest they actually apply their knowledge to their own bodies makes me take everything they say with a grain of salt.

That's a very irrational way of thinking, sir or madam.

Never really heard of Lyle.....I mean I read some stuff on his site but I dont really know exactly who he is but he seems like a credible source.

Was he like a bodybuilder or powerlifter or something?

http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/mcdonald/bio.htm

[VegasPumped]

Anybody can be an "expert" of anything.

Wrong.

why the Rip hate : (

he puts the numbers, provides the proofs, and Lyle is all "my book says no, so its not possible"

Ummm, did you even read what Rip is claiming?
So much muscle in such a short period...

Going against many, many studies...

"brb 20 pounds of muscle in a week, I did it, I don't care what you book says"
Obviously the claim isn't as bad as ^^^ but you get me cousin.

[Amsterdammerr]

THATS IMPOSSIBLE 80 pounds lmao

He is or

1 in a million
Or they are lying and doing anabolics

[VegasPumped]

I respect Lyle, and especially Alan because of his credentials, but to be honest the fact that I've never seen anything that suggest they actually apply their knowledge to their own bodies makes me take everything they say with a grain of salt.

Alan makes nutrition plans for pro athletes. (Think NBA players, Olympians, Bodybuilders)
I thing he knows what he's doing.

[GodsAngina]

Wrong.




Ummm, did you even read what Rip is claiming?
So much muscle in such a short period...

Going against many, many studies...

"brb 20 pounds of muscle in a week, I did it, I don't care what you book says"
Obviously the claim isn't as bad as ^^^ but you get me cousin.

THATS IMPOSSIBLE 80 pounds lmao

He is or

1 in a million
Or they are lying and doing anabolics

He posted up a guy called johnny pain or something who made similar gainz, Imma find a link.

[Tes45]

Wrong.




Ummm, did you even read what Rip is claiming?
So much muscle in such a short period...

Going against many, many studies...

"brb 20 pounds of muscle in a week, I did it, I don't care what you book says"
Obviously the claim isn't as bad as ^^^ but you get me cousin.

It's actually 30-35 LBM gain over a 24-26 week period.

Not really ridiculous at all for a skinny ass kid that never lifted or ate before.

[CanadianBeaver]

Alan Araganon or w/e his name is, Rip, and Lyle are all full of b.s.

they know way more then the average person but they aren't PHD's, they haven't run any tests themselves.

They are nothing more than the kings of broscience.

Dead (srs)

they do what works.

experience>science in lifting

[avigohp]

i feel bad for the guy, became a fat ass.

[VegasPumped]

It's actually 30-35 LBM gain over a 24-26 week period.

Not really ridiculous at all for a skinny ass kid that never lifted or ate before.

Over a pound of muscle a week?
I don't think so.

Not debating, this doesn't affect me and it won't help me with my goals, so I don't care if you try to debate etc....

[Amsterdammerr]

It's actually 30-35 LBM gain over a 24-26 week period.

Not really ridiculous at all for a skinny ass kid that never lifted or ate before.

Dude there are tons of people on here who did a dreamer bulk, lifted hard but still gained allot of fat eventually making them obese

WTF MAN, gaining more then 3 pounds a month evern for a superecto IS OVERKILL.

Go check out photo section

[MUFC]

It's actually 30-35 LBM gain over a 24-26 week period.

Not really ridiculous at all for a skinny ass kid that never lifted or ate before.

Noob gains are actually better for fatter individuals than the skinny.

Lyle wrote an article on this.

[GodsAngina]

He posted up a guy called johnny pain or something who made similar gainz, Imma find a link.

here:

http://startingstrength.com/resource...ht=johnny+pain

I've recently received a few PM's requesting an updated picture after my "Two Months of SS" thread from last December. This is me getting around to posting a couple.

The First is of Me last September when I met good old Rip. My bodyweight was 175.


The second and third are me semi-recent at my current 235. I'm by no means done, Expect 265 within the year. I plan on lifting as a 275.









Go eat people.

[-Punter]

This is why I don't take anything Rippetoes says seriously anymore

That guy is fat as ****