So when i'm at the gym I see some guys bringing the bar to the chest when benching and others just a few inches above. What to you guys do?
When i'm doing sets i stop about an inch above my chest just because it feels like i cant go any further and i'm doing ok with it.
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03-08-2010, 04:00 AM #1
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Go as low as your flexibility allows you to go, whether that is to your chest or a couple of inches above the chest. I personally dont touch the bar to my chest but rather 2'' above i feel the muscle working completely under constant tension.
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03-08-2010, 04:20 AM #6
In my opinion a couple of inches above the chest are good form.
No need to put additional strain on your shoulders by going too low.
I have my own question about the bench though:
I've seen that if you just jerk the bar up as soon as it comes down - like if you were bouncing it with your muscles (but without touching your chest), it's much easier than if you pause for a sec/half a sec when you're in the low position.
That's of course due to muscle elasticity.
Question is,
for me that I'm a beginner and I'd like to simply get stronger, should I do the way that allows more weight on the bar, or should I try to persist in doing the most difficult way (pausing at the bottom)?
And what of the 2 brings more muscle mass gains?
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03-08-2010, 06:44 AM #11
Unless you're training for powerlifting, take advantage of the elastic stretch inherent in the bench press movement. It's not "cheating" or anything. You could also mix it up. In the long run, it's not going to make a huge difference, but pausing at the bottom's only useful really if at a meet or training for one.
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haha ya thats so funny. I like the 6'3 150lb monster at the gym that bounces 135 of his chest with his back arched as much as he can. As he is doing this he is grunting and screaming as his spotter helps him.....next he gets up and walks around looking all mad and **** like he is a machine.
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03-08-2010, 07:38 AM #18
I'll take the easy way out, instead of trying to put this in my own words:
Page 85 on Starting Strength, 2nd edition...
"The bench press, like the squat, benefits from a certain amount of rebound out of the bottom, using the stretch reflex phenomenon that is a feature of skeletal muscle."
Rip goes on to say how regulation bench presses at meets get rid of this stretch reflex by making the lifter pause at the bottom. You can lift more weight by taking advantage of the stretch reflex, and as long as you don't shortchange the ROM, it's probably a better way to do it for most lifters with standard strength/hypertrophy goals.
I was answering the specific part of his (the guy I quoted, not the OP) question on whether or not it was best to bench with a pause at the bottom or drive right out of it. I wasn't saying anything about ROM. In fact, I would assume the farther you go down, the better the "rebound" would be.
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03-08-2010, 07:39 AM #19
You might find this post useful.
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03-08-2010, 07:46 AM #20
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03-08-2010, 07:53 AM #21
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03-08-2010, 07:53 AM #22
I touch my chest.
Now, unless your competing in a power lifting contest, I don't see anything wrong with partial lifts with a more limited range of motion.
My only "beef" comes when the lifter keeps on adding weight and continually reduces the range of motion until the 1-2" above the chest now becomes 4-5".
"Touch and go" is very repeatable from session to session however.
The issue of course, is the strain that is put on the rotator cuff.
The rippetoe BP videos are pretty good for explaining how to avoid most of that stress.But those who fight for right must remember St. Augustine's sage words,
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03-08-2010, 09:31 AM #23
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03-08-2010, 10:57 AM #25
I hear people talking about "bouncing the bar off the chest" all the time. I've even been accused of that myself.
Surely, this isn't literal, right? I mean, theres no way a guy could literally BOUNCE a 200 lb barbell off his chest without breaking some ribs.
Does that just mean something like "going too fast on the negative while letting the bar touch the chest"?
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03-08-2010, 11:09 AM #26
Nope, it means bouncing. Not all 200 pounds is slamming into the sternum...just a fraction of that weight (think: when you bounce of your chest, do you feel all the pressure of the weight leave your hands? no). It's still not good, and you could injure yourself if used excessively, but it happens sometimes at the end of a heavy set.
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