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    Question Should Phil Heath have won the 2008 Mr.Olympia?

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    I have no idea, he and Dex just look ridiculously tied in these pics. Phils hammies are a lot more developed than Dex's, but Dexters delts and traps are more complete. Phils lats look larger than Dexters, but Dex's chest is bigger than Phils. My mind just keeps running around in circles.
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    I think so and so did Shawn Ray.
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    No.

    I tried to find the 2008 Olympia scorecard but if I remember correctly Dexter got a perfect score at the prejudging and it was more spread out at the night show. Your pictures are from the finals, where Dexter did not recieve a perfect score (again, as far as I can remember).
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    It's 2010.

    hasn't this been beaten to death already? bump an old thread or something.
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    i personally think so.
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    I dont know... after seeing this picture of Dexters conditioning, compared to Jay, even considering Jay came in with great conditioning, it sort of blew my mind

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    Originally Posted by weltweitefurcht View Post
    I dont know... after seeing this picture of Dexters conditioning, compared to Jay, even considering Jay came in with great conditioning, it sort of blew my mind

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    jay isn't flexing in it...
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    IMo the only pose that dexter gets beat in by phil is the back double bicep.. other then that dexter wins! muscularity, symettry & proportion, dex was d man
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    no. dexter won cause he deserved it.
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    Originally Posted by Coal Man View Post
    It's 2010.

    hasn't this been beaten to death already? bump an old thread or something.
    I'd just like to know why exactly the judges put him there is all...
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    Originally Posted by Supercows View Post
    I'd just like to know why exactly the judges put him there is all...
    Because after all the points were added up, thats where he placed?
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    Originally Posted by weltweitefurcht View Post
    I dont know... after seeing this picture of Dexters conditioning, compared to Jay, even considering Jay came in with great conditioning, it sort of blew my mind

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    Originally Posted by Supercows View Post
    I'd just like to know why exactly the judges put him there is all...
    Because Wolf was flat, Vic was injured and Kai was banned.
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    No. Dexter had it locked up. It's called conditioning. Dexter was sharper than Phil and Jay on both days. Dexter was just too dry and hit his mark. Phil will have his day, but he needs to learn what his body is telling him. This will avoid stomach problems and he'll be in condition. Look forward to the 2010 Mr. O.
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    about as much as ronnie should have won the 07 olympia
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    The do match up very well. And I think in 2010 Phil will beat Dex. But, if NOTHING else, look at the lower back area of the 2. Dex has muscle and is bone dry. Phil is bone dry also...but is lacking muscle. If for NO OTHER reason, that would give the advantage to Dex. However, dex has more then just that working for him.
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    F*** No! Truthfully, he should be getting ready to defend his title again in 2010.
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    Originally Posted by bigbisandtris View Post
    No. Dexter had it locked up. It's called conditioning. Dexter was sharper than Phil and Jay on both days. Dexter was just too dry and hit his mark. Phil will have his day, but he needs to learn what his body is telling him. This will avoid stomach problems and he'll be in condition. Look forward to the 2010 Mr. O.
    phil was just as ripped.

    but dexters package was perfect, phil still had a few weaknesses to keep him from being number 1 over dexter
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    Originally Posted by lovebbing View Post
    phil was just as ripped.

    but dexters package was perfect, phil still had a few weaknesses to keep him from being number 1 over dexter
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    If Phil had been in the game longer, or done a couple Olympias by 2008 I think he would have won it.
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    Originally Posted by Supercows View Post
    I'd just like to know why exactly the judges put him there is all...
    Because thats where he deserved to be,

    No amount of fan bull**** saying ''phill should of been first'' will change anything the judges decide what they want as olympia champion and phil wasnt it. simple
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    Originally Posted by Coal Man View Post
    It's 2010.

    hasn't this been beaten to death already? bump an old thread or something.
    Originally Posted by Supercows View Post
    I'd just like to know why exactly the judges put him there is all...
    then ask the judges, not us!


    on this forum, you are going to get a good combination of

    1. other fanatical fan's "opinions"

    2. Bro-science

    3. 2D pictures which show NOTHING


    if you were at the pre-judging and sat right behind the Judges, you would have a better perspective on just how difficult it is to judge competitors at that high level of achievement.....
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    HERE: I started your "homework" for you:

    a basic outline for judging:

    http://www.bodybuildingcompetitiongu...singrounds.htm


    a little more detailed:


    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/shepley1.htm


    and even better: a SEMINAR ( !! ) teaching HOW to judge:

    http://www.neclassic.com/


    just 3 or THOUSANDS of internet sites you can look up and read about concerning ACTUAL judging criteria, not just bro-opinions.......
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    For sure, Phil should have been no worse than 2nd.
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    What Tony said, 'you cant build a four room house on 2 room foundations.'
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    I dont know... after seeing this picture of Dexters conditioning, compared to Jay, even considering Jay came in with great conditioning, it sort of blew my mind

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    This picture is from 2009 mr olympia
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