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    Originally Posted by propreffered7 View Post
    Javier Baez the cubs utility player = 3rd on team in hits
    3rd on team in hr's

    Only behind rizzo and Bryant
    Only Rizzo and Bryant play every day.

    Addison Russell has a whooping 28 more PAs, Contreras has 7 more PAs, Heyward has 5 fewer PAs, Zobrist has 7 fewer PAs.

    So you're telling me Baez is 4th in PA's for the Cubs and 3rd in hits and HRs? Basically jumping their SS who sits 3rd in PA's? Shocking revelation.
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    On a team that's collectively hitting .240 I might add
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    Originally Posted by SoutheastBeast1 View Post
    Only Rizzo and Bryant play every day.

    Addison Russell has a whooping 28 more PAs, Contreras has 7 more PAs, Heyward has 5 fewer PAs, Zobrist has 7 fewer PAs.

    So you're telling me Baez is 4th in PA's for the Cubs and 3rd in hits and HRs? Basically jumping their SS who sits 3rd in PA's? Shocking revelation.
    Look at the guy who said Russell is better than Baez

    Btw Baez just getting started. He absolutely has to play every day. If he sits it'll fuk him up..but he'll be a star
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    Originally Posted by propreffered7 View Post
    Man you don't know how far this goes. You're taking this morality approach. I don't think any of mlb is moral

    Prove to me there's an objective world and everything's not subjective.

    Hint: you can't.

    So, now that you know morality is made up and dependent on culture.. what is wrong with utilizing the system the mlb has in place?

    Of course you can't blow games, even though it prob happens, a la Pete rose, but what the fuk do you consider MLB teams holding back players that help their team win currently is? There is 100% tanking within the mlb whether you like it or not

    And that is 100% not the worst thing that goes on.

    They sign naive Latin American players for pennies on the dollar and that has tremendous trickle down effects everywhere
    Show me where Braves have lost games on purpose. You can't. they never have.

    They brought up Swanson. They signed the best players they could sign last year. You can't block players in your system with longer contracts for better guys, that's stupidity. You make a choice between the two and Braves made their choice. Not tanking.

    Braves won games last year with Swanson up. Not tanking. Braves are winning games this year. Not tanking. Braves brought up Newcomb this year. Not tanking.

    Show me where the Braves have tanked? Maybe the Cubs tanked. Maybe the CWS are tanking right now. I'm not following either close enough to know.

    I can say with fact Braves have tried to win as much as possible while rebuilding. Rebuilding is not tanking it's shifting current assets to future assets. That's not losing on purpose. It's like investing your salary in your 401k. Are you trying to live a sh*tty life with less around you? No you aren't. You're trading off what you could have now for what you can have in the future but you'll still work with what assets are available to you right now and have as nice a life as you can. You don't go full hobo mode and live in a cardboard box cause it means you can invest more for future gains do you?

    It's a same thing. Braves aren't going full hobo mode living in a cardboard box aka losing games on purpose. They're still doing the best they can to win right now while shifting some of their assets to the future.

    Show me otherwise.
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    bro lets end it

    if i were braves id try to ensure i get another high pick, save money, sign intl. talent, draft well, sign fa talent, and go full throttle next year

    if you were braves youd play for a playoff spot right now
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    Originally Posted by propreffered7 View Post
    Look at the guy who said Russell is better than Baez

    Btw Baez just getting started. He absolutely has to play every day. If he sits it'll fuk him up..but he'll be a star
    Russell is better though. 1.0 WAR vs. Baez 0.5 WAR 2017

    Still ignoring defense I guess. Only 28 more PAs, playing time close enough one shouldn't be doubling the others WAR
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    Originally Posted by SoutheastBeast1 View Post
    Russell is better though. 1.0 WAR vs. Baez 0.5 WAR 2017

    Still ignoring defense I guess. Only 28 more PAs, playing time close enough one shouldn't be doubling the others WAR
    move russell to 3rd, 1st, 2nd and sone outfield

    his defense would prob take a hit too. its strange because baez is faster than russell. russell just must be quick twitched/ used to ss. i dont think russell is nearly the same at 3rd because baez arm is superior
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    Originally Posted by propreffered7 View Post
    bro lets end it

    if i were braves id try to ensure i get another high pick, save money, sign intl. talent, draft well, sign fa talent, and go full throttle next year

    if you were braves youd play for a playoff spot right now
    End what? I'm not trying to convince you to root for the Braves. I really don't give a f*ck if you want to root for them to tank.

    I just said it makes you a sh*tty fan and I'm not "ending" my belief of that. You said you don't care what I think a few posts back, so stop caring.
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    Originally Posted by propreffered7 View Post
    move russell to 3rd, 1st, 2nd and sone outfield

    his defense would prob take a hit too. its strange because baez is faster than russell. russell just must be quick twitched/ used to ss. i dont think russell is nearly the same at 3rd because baez arm is superior
    Changes nothing.

    You insinuated Baez was better and I'm just responding with their WAR. Anything you've posted is just pure speculation.

    You got me bro. Baez is better, lol. All that speculation with nothing to back it up on convinced me.

    Things are literally no different than when the original comment of Russell being better were made.
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    Originally Posted by SoutheastBeast1 View Post
    Changes nothing.

    You insinuated Baez was better and I'm just responding with their WAR. Anything you've posted is just pure speculation.

    You got me bro. Baez is better, lol. All that speculation with nothing to back it up on convinced me.

    Things are literally no different than when the original comment of Russell being better were made.
    baez war is comprised of him moving around positions whereas russells is not.

    also, im looking at general stats. baez had 9 hr's in 136 pa a bit back.. no idea what hes at now but i know baez

    is .260ish with 10 hr's and russell is .215 to .230ish with less hr's and rbi's despite the fact that baez often hits in front of the pitcher = no strikes

    and he still has less ab's
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