I would say go for a de-load.
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06-22-2010, 03:46 AM #151
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06-22-2010, 06:08 AM #152
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06-22-2010, 06:24 AM #153
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My thoughts:
if you burn out, you won't do your cut (or strength gains for that matter) any good.
The reason it is commonly advised to stick to heavy weights during a cut, is because the strength range, doesn't generally break muscle down as much as higher volume/moderate repetition work. If you are in a caloric deficit, your body can't adequately repair the muscle you break down.
That however generally isn't referring to a deload. A deload is to let your joints, CNS, etc refresh themselves. So take your deload week, and then go back to your regularly scheduled program.-
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06-22-2010, 09:22 AM #154
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06-22-2010, 09:46 AM #155
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06-22-2010, 04:59 PM #156
I'm not sure of this, but I had believed that the point of high intensity lifting during a cut was not so that it wouldn't break muscle down as opposed to higher volume workouts, but rather it provides a stimulus for your body to preserve muscle and seek out other sources (fat stores) to catabolise to provide its energy while in a caloric deficit. That's why i've also been puzzling over whether a deload during a cut is good or not.
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06-24-2010, 06:35 PM #157
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It looks like we're not going to get much guidance on this one, mate.
I've been doing a lot of forum and google searches and can't find anything that goes specifically into the pros/cons of deloading while cutting .. having said that, I'll be deloading next week.
I'm on 5x5 intermediate/linear at the moment - full body workout, 3 times per week, ramping sets to a top set of 5. Next week I will keep my workouts and exercises the same, except I will do 5 straight sets with 60% of my 1RM.
When I get back to 5x5 the following week, I'll be starting about 5lbs less on all my lifts to ease back into it. I figure if I do lose any strength while deloading I still have 8 weeks left of my cut to gain that strength back, I doubt it would drop much in one week anyway.
I'll let you know how it goes - I'm just looking forward to having an active rest week.. losing motivation for workouts pretty bad at the moment!When I go hunting, I just stare at the deer.
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06-25-2010, 08:51 AM #158
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06-25-2010, 11:59 AM #159
Started my first de-load a few days ago and am really enjoying it. Dropped my weights by
50% and working hard to perfect my form. Feels good to take it easy for a cycle.
I'm also on a cut, and have been increasing my weights week to week, so we'll see how I do
for strength next week. Will try to report back.
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06-25-2010, 12:45 PM #160
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That is actually a far better iteration of what I actually wanted to say. Kudos.
I'd say, if you are even in the gym, it will be better than nothing.
My biggest reason for the deload during a cut, is if you burn out, you won't help anything. I've been in an overtrained state before, and everything drags down, and any progress on all fronts seem to stop. If you deload for even a few days, to give your body a rest, you can pick back up, nice and strong, and continue your cut.
But i am no expert on the subject either. So take what i say with a grain of salt.-
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06-25-2010, 12:46 PM #161
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07-01-2010, 08:35 PM #162
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07-03-2010, 04:17 PM #163
I think I may start to de-load considering how I have lost motivation, and am always fatigued. Recently, I have been getting 12-14 hrs a sleep in a day (Taking 1-2 hour naps during the day). Now, should I continue to to my normal cardio? Like a simple 30 minute jog on the Elliptical.
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07-10-2010, 04:10 PM #164
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Eating?
Right, guys, I'm going to be taking a week out next week to de-load. One thing I'm wondering about though is should I eat exactly the same or eat less. I was going to get cardio in this week as much as possible seeing as it's summer and it shouldn't be hard dropping the little bit of fatI have around the lower midsection.
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07-14-2010, 02:32 PM #165
do you think a deload week would be okay to use with a cut? I have about a week left so im thinking if i should do it then.
i notice ive been really tired towards the middle of the day so i think i need one.http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoawuYgSkehcUdvZQ6yNOcA/videos?flow=grid&view=0
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07-19-2010, 05:31 AM #166
I kinda have the aforementioned symptoms, so i might aswell try that
Thank you
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07-20-2010, 09:21 AM #167
Great info, thanks, i def need to deload i think, found the last few workouts much harder than usual and i did'nt know why, looks like deload is the answer.
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07-23-2010, 01:48 PM #168
I needed to read this
This is just what I need. I'm not new to lifting...did it during high school/college for sports... but since then, I've never been able to get past that "hump" you hit after several months. I started at the beginning of this year at a new gym. Over the last month, I've been absolutely exhausted. I'm not gaining strength, not losing weight, and I can't seem to find enough energy to make it through the day. And I'm constantly sore/in pain.
I read this yesterday and decided to take a week off starting yesterday and going throughout next week. I've never done that before. I've always just quit when I've hit that wall. I'm hopeful that this will work.
Thanks for the post.
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07-26-2010, 05:38 AM #169
Question
Well, like I mentioned in my above post, I'm taking this week off. I've always been one to keep the weight/reps light if I'm going back to the gym after a break (like I said, I've never intentionally taken a week off before, I've just taken days off before) so as not to kill myself and do 100's more reps than I did the day before. After a week off, I've heard that you're usually stronger than you were before. When I go back next week, should I keep it light or jump back into it full force?
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07-26-2010, 05:50 AM #170
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08-01-2010, 07:45 PM #171
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Well with some hesitation and nervousness I'm starting my De-Load week today by taking the week off. I'm not showing the first three signs of when to de-load but I've been on over a year long cut losing over 100lbs. I run anywhere from 15-20 miles a week, walk 25 miles a week and been serious lifting 4 days a week, I've only been lifting for about 5 months though.
Its kinda of hard to slow down my routine since I've been doing it for so long but I hope the de-load will be more beneficial in the long run. I still plan on walking a couple miles days and will use this week to learn my maintenance calories. thx for the great post.
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08-02-2010, 01:42 AM #172
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Great article on de-loading I've tried this before and goes work well, I'm currently tired mentally and physically from constant gum and other exercise, but holidaying for 2 weeks will sort that out.
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08-10-2010, 09:42 PM #173
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I planned my deload around my vacation time. My vacation was suppose to be only 2 weeks, but I decided to take another week and extend my stay. It will be almost a month off from the gym. I know I needed to break because I did feel like I was just going through the motions and because if I didnt go I would feel guilty. My strength was also starting to decline. Anything wrong with taking a month off?
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08-13-2010, 08:01 AM #174
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08-16-2010, 08:42 PM #175
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"de-load to re-load"
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08-28-2010, 11:04 PM #176
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Deload FTW!!!
Just finished a week-long deload last week. I took a full week off from the gym for the first time in a few months. Although I wasn't feeling any of the aforementioned symptoms, I knew my body was in need of a bit of rest...
I have come back with a brand new mental attitude and as well as maintaining my current weight, I also seem to have started to lean out a bit more too!
Keep up the eating, chill out and enjoy a good deload - so happy I took one!
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08-29-2010, 02:21 PM #177
i do this all the time
i call it a cool down thoughThey won't give in!
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08-31-2010, 01:04 PM #178
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08-31-2010, 03:47 PM #179
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09-01-2010, 01:04 AM #180
yes, reducing either the intensity or volume of a load to give the muscles and CNS a break.
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