Outline of Dave Palumbo's Diet for cutting

[moonshinebabe33]

i wouldnt waste my money on bcaa's if you buy a good quality protien they will have all the bcaa's you need in it, also eggs have a full amino acid profile......save your money dudes and by some more food......

not hijacking but.........James L told me to take BCAAs on top of good quality protein, plus omega eggs etc.

[soilentgreen]

I have to say my cheat meal wasn't as good as I expected and I am not looking forward to the next, I am looking forward to not feeling sick and getting back on my diet. Haha. I could only eat like a bowl of ice cream and 4 pieces of pizza and I feel like throwing up. feelsbadman.jpg

my first cheat was something like that and i felt like ass after. my second cheat i went with a 50/50 of good carbs and trash carbs i.e.

-cranberries, blackberries, blueberries, 4 scoops of sugar, milk, with ice and whey in the blender
-two deluxe bacon cheeseburgers with fries
-4 oreo cookies
- 1 apple

i felt much better after this cheat than i did after my first one. also did better in the gym as well. i've been progressing to a trashier cheat every sunday. i think for me personally i started off too extreme. especially since im not a trashy eater even when not on this diet.

not hijacking but.........James L told me to take BCAAs on top of good quality protein, plus omega eggs etc.

no point in raising this arguement back to the surface. you get enough bcaas with the diet and a good quality whey. it's a proven fact. if you still feel that you need even more bcaa's to make yourself feel better or for the confidence of knowing you've exceeded your limit then by all means go ahead and take something else on top of it.

[soilentgreen]

Do the eggs and meats call to be cooked with oil? Or do you just boil the eggs and cook the meats with dry heat (eg indoor grill)?

cook the eggs. i scramble mine with a tsp of water for every egg in the bowl. comes out like mcdonalds eggs. tip-milk makes eggs runny.

cook the meat however you want. i bake, use the stove, and even the crockpot sometimes. just add the oil after. i use pam on the pan and just add my tbsp of EVOO after everything is cooked. greasing the pan with oil does not count towards your daily fat intake. remember that.

don't forget to weigh your food after it's cooked also.

[soilentgreen]

check out my yesterday and let me know what you think. I went with the beef patties for my last meal. i was craving that red meat.
Total fat Sat. Fat Carbs Protein Calories
Eggs 20 6 0 28 280
Lqd Egg WHT 0 0 0 10 0
Whey protien 2.25 1 3.5 26 135
Natural PB 8 1.5 3 4 100
Grlld Chckn 5 1 0 46 220
Cashews 31.6 6.2 22.2 10.4 390
whey protien 2.25 1 3.5 26 135
Natural PB 8 1.5 3 4 100
Burger Patty 36 14 0 54 556
Salad 5 1 0 2 93


total 118.1 33.2 35.2 210.4 2009

I'm currently about 260lbs btw. let me know what you think.

you can also try almond butter if you arent a fan of peanut butter. don't know why but i like almond butter better. somehow has a cleaner taste to it. looks good man. good luck

[Rambo26]

has any one else used the EC stack while on the dave p diet? or will the caffine knock you out of ketosis? im on day 9 of the ec stack gonna check if im still in keto..

from what i no all you need to do is watch your potassium intake. usely have hlf an avacado a day, + the diet listed on page 1..

so im having 600mg caffine a day starting tomorrow.

Palumbo is not a fan of stimulant fat burners, but I don't think it will harm ketosis

his view was that they help fat burning for sure, but have catabolic properties that counter the positive effects

You should still have good results with the EC stack imo

Do the eggs and meats call to be cooked with oil? Or do you just boil the eggs and cook the meats with dry heat (eg indoor grill)?

Oil isn't needed if you ask me, but some Macadmia nut oil is fine, I sometimes use 1 cal spray

[apace]

Animal cuts should contain anti catabolic compounds so they should be good on this diet , any one tried them with good results on this diet ?

[brintnel]

what are peoples' thoughts on bbq-ing their meat?

[OtisBDriftwood]

what are peoples' thoughts on bbq-ing their meat?

If it's 0 carbs

[ads81]

Im 11 days into the DP diet now and feeling alot better than i did the first 3 days. All is going well with no slip ups. Strength is maintained though i have lowered my training volume a little but still working with a 4on 1off split.

My starting Bodyweight was 277lbs.
Tonight 11 days into the diet im at 261lbs.

Something to note is that i have not done any cardio as of yet just 60-90 mins of intense weights a day.

[soilentgreen]

Animal cuts should contain anti catabolic compounds so they should be good on this diet , any one tried them with good results on this diet ?

a few people have tried animal cuts with very good results. I plan to start using it in july when I expect to be towards the bottom leg of my diet. 3 weeks on, one week off with that stuff if i remember correctly. just make sure you take what comes with it and some vitamin c on top for added measure.

what are peoples' thoughts on bbq-ing their meat?

if you mean grilling meat then it's fine. you can't use bbq sauce on your meat i believe. im pretty sure i remember it having too many carbs in it and you don't want to take in any direct carbs.

[soilentgreen]

third day into adjusting my diet for my new weight and i can definitely tell i feel/look better. adding the cardio in has made me feel lighter outside of the gym.

one thing for sure, when i do finally get rid of this waist fat im not gonna be looking to put it back on. it takes too damn long to get rid of.

[hes179]

third day into adjusting my diet for my new weight and i can definitely tell i feel/look better. adding the cardio in has made me feel lighter outside of the gym.

one thing for sure, when i do finally get rid of this waist fat im not gonna be looking to put it back on. it takes too damn long to get rid of.

i wish keeping it off were so easy. i put back on a few during my break from the diet but i didn't eat too clean either. at least now i know to keep carbs minimal going off the diet and reintroduce them a bit more slowly than i did. 8 weeks minus 3 days to go on this diet but i'm not dreading it at all. i felt better the first 8 weeks on the diet than i did the weeks i was off

[bignol1055]

How come the it suggest eating cashews when they are high in carbs?

[ricbig]

anyone have suggestions to brown rice i hate having to weight 30 minutes just t make it everyday any ideas

[UofACATS]

How come the it suggest eating cashews when they are high in carbs?

Remember to subtract the fiber from the carb content.

I don't eat cashews, just almonds. If you want cashews just eat a small enough portion to not exceed carb limits for that meal.

[UofACATS]

third day into adjusting my diet for my new weight and i can definitely tell i feel/look better. adding the cardio in has made me feel lighter outside of the gym.

Nice work bud. I adjust probably too often, but I want the diet to be as accurate as possible. It sounds like it's working well for you.

I'm starting regular cardio as well.

[Bigman0053]

anyone have suggestions to brown rice i hate having to weight 30 minutes just t make it everyday any ideas

the best way to cook brown rice for this diet is to open the bag/box and pour it directly into the trash...lol

[VolumeFreak]

Question about the cheat meal im a dominate endomorph and kind of mesomorph should i eat less on the cheat meal i know it says 500 max but im not really sure

[Rambo26]

Question about the cheat meal im a dominate endomorph and kind of mesomorph should i eat less on the cheat meal i know it says 500 max but im not really sure

I think a sizeable single meal will be fine, but remember the 500g figure is a really high max

Palumbo thinks 150g is generally a more suitable number for the average lighter person:

your cheat meal was the mc'd s meal, about how many grams of carbs was that? and whats the max recomended amount of carbs for the cheat meal on for the 200lb diet

DP: 150g is plenty.

http://www.rxmuscle.com/articles/qad...r-21-2009.html

[VolumeFreak]

ahh ok thanks soo much is there room for any protein or fat in the cheat meal or just only straight carb sources?

[Rambo26]

ahh ok thanks soo much is there room for any protein or fat in the cheat meal or just only straight carb sources?

Try to include all 3, but from whatever sources you want

[VolumeFreak]

did he have any limit on protein and fat?

[Rambo26]

did he have any limit on protein and fat?

no set numbers

[VolumeFreak]

oh hmm ic thats weird so what should i do then..

[Jasonc06]

Remember to subtract the fiber from the carb content.

I don't eat cashews, just almonds. If you want cashews just eat a small enough portion to not exceed carb limits for that meal.

I eat cashews and my weight still going down.

[Bigman0053]

I eat cashews and my weight still going down.

cashews are just way too delicious! almonds get boring so its easier to make sure i dont eat any extras. with cashews, i dont want to stop eating them

[VolumeFreak]

What do you guys do for cheat meals?

[UofACATS]

I did a full-body workout yesterday for the first time, and it was particularity nasty. I don't think I'll be doing that again while on this diet. I did 2 sets on everything, 12 to 15 reps first set, then until failure on the second. The gym was crowded, so I couldn't do squat first like I wanted to. I ended up doing

bench
standing calves
dip (tricep)
deadlift
squat
bicep curl
military press
abs
one hour low intensity cardio

I rested ~90 seconds between sets, and definitely had a high heart-rate and good sweat going. I tested my heart-rate when I first got on the treadmill and it was 135 still, which is higher than I target with cardio. Anyway, just my first full-body experience.

I got my 5lb Isoflex Chocolate today, and it's good I also got my r-ala which I'll try with my cheat.

[Bigman0053]

I did a full-body workout yesterday for the first time, and it was particularity nasty. I don't think I'll be doing that again while on this diet. I did 2 sets on everything, 12 to 15 reps first set, then until failure on the second. The gym was crowded, so I couldn't do squat first like I wanted to. I ended up doing

bench
standing calves
dip (tricep)
deadlift
squat
bicep curl
military press
abs
one hour low intensity cardio

I rested ~90 seconds between sets, and definitely had a high heart-rate and good sweat going. I tested my heart-rate when I first got on the treadmill and it was 135 still, which is higher than I target with cardio. Anyway, just my first full-body experience.

I got my 5lb Isoflex Chocolate today, and it's good I also got my r-ala which I'll try with my cheat.

I hear you. I tried to do a 3 day split (3 days high reps, 3 days heavy) and after 3 days of light reps, i feel like crap in the gym. Im going to stick with doing a 3 day split but HEAVY.

[albert88]

Is it possible to lose fat as quickly by just cutting down all starchy carbs throughout the day until pre and post workout?

This diet, man, it's just not my thing...as much as I want to do it...it would cost me an arm and a leg