too much above maitenence?

[emerica1184]

is there some threshold for eating above maitenence? everyone says to eat 500 over to make gains but what about eating like 1100 over?

[Menslage]

Yeah you should eat at least 1,000 over. 500 Over is creating a 3500 calorie surplus a week. Not much.

[emerica1184]

is there a point where it becomes too much thought? cause i was thinking about buying a gainer and if i was like 1500 over i didn't know if that would cause me to gain fat or anything

[Khensu]

1100 is wayyy to much over maintenance. Prepared to get fat if you eat that much. Here's a tip. Take the word "bulk" out of your vocabulary. Replace it with lean mass.


Lean mass- Eating 200-400 calories above maintenance.

400 can even be a stretch. I'd stick with 200-300 for now.

This way you actually gain mostly muscle, instead of half muscle half fat. In the end you have just as much muscle mass, and very little fat gains. May take a little longer, but patience can take you a long way in this sport.

Stick with a strength program for now. Until you get a good strength base, then you can start volume training.

[emerica1184]

thanks broskies

[thebear217]

1100 is wayyy to much over maintenance. Prepared to get fat if you eat that much. Here's a tip. Take the word "bulk" out of your vocabulary. Replace it with lean mass.


Lean mass- Eating 200-400 calories above maintenance.

400 can even be a stretch. I'd stick with 200-300 for now.

This way you actually gain mostly muscle, instead of half muscle half fat. In the end you have just as much muscle mass, and very little fat gains. May take a little longer, but patience can take you a long way in this sport.

Stick with a strength program for now. Until you get a good strength base, then you can start volume training.

gtfo with 200-300

absolute minimum 500. then work up till you hit a rate of gaining your happy with.

[Khensu]

gtfo with 200-300

absolute minimum 500. then work up till you hit a rate of gaining your happy with.

ABSOLUTE MINIMUM . haha man thats great. Be prepared to get fat. Go above 500 and your gain a little bit more than muscle... FAT. Not to attack you man, but honestly right now this kid wants to be a bodybuilder I'm assumng. And coming from you a guy who just wants to get his ego boosted by seeing the scale go up. Maybe that's not the best way to achieve his goals. Because I'm assuming the guy doesn't want to get fat.

I know you've been seeing all these skinny ass teenagers saying there dirty bulking and ****. But there is better ways to do it. The way I told him to do it.

[Scooter4]

ABSOLUTE MINIMUM . haha man thats great. Be prepared to get fat. Go above 500 and your gain a little bit more than muscle... FAT. Not to attack you man, but honestly right now this kid wants to be a bodybuilder I'm assumng. And coming from you a guy who just wants to get his ego boosted by seeing the scale go up. Maybe that's not the best way to achieve his goals. Because I'm assuming the guy doesn't want to get fat.

I know you've been seeing all these skinny ass teenagers saying there dirty bulking and ****. But there is better ways to do it. The way I told him to do it.

Yeah because YOU (a 15 year old) know more then a 294lb 20 year old that has obviously been at this for a long time.

[thebear217]

ABSOLUTE MINIMUM . haha man thats great. Be prepared to get fat. Go above 500 and your gain a little bit more than muscle... FAT. Not to attack you man, but honestly right now this kid wants to be a bodybuilder I'm assumng. And coming from you a guy who just wants to get his ego boosted by seeing the scale go up. Maybe that's not the best way to achieve his goals. Because I'm assuming the guy doesn't want to get fat.

I know you've been seeing all these skinny ass teenagers saying there dirty bulking and ****. But there is better ways to do it. The way I told him to do it.

No you've not. You've told him the way a f*cking pedant who makes little progress would do it. If your bulking properly your gonna get a little fat thats why you cut afterwards. The aim is to get big. While it isnt best for most to do it eating 2k over maintenance it is pointless doing it that low. With 2-300 in a year of bulking he isnt even putting in enough calories to put on 30lbs of fat nevermind lbm. And lbm is harder to put on then fat. So if hes lucky he might gain 20lbs in a year half of that being muscle.

Well thats just great other than the fact I've put more than that on in lbm in the last 10 months even with me cutting ~20lbs over the last 6 weeks.

But of course your enormous experience being a whopping 15 years old would easily counterbalance that of the majority of successful bodybuilders and coaches. Silly me.

[Khensu]

No you've not. You've told him the way a f*cking pedant who makes little progress would do it. If your bulking properly your gonna get a little fat thats why you cut afterwards. The aim is to get big. While it isnt best for most to do it eating 2k over maintenance it is pointless doing it that low. With 2-300 in a year of bulking he isnt even putting in enough calories to put on 30lbs of fat nevermind lbm. And lbm is harder to put on then fat. So if hes lucky he might gain 20lbs in a year half of that being muscle.

Well thats just great other than the fact I've put more than that on in lbm in the last 10 months even with me cutting ~20lbs over the last 6 weeks.

But of course your enormous experience being a whopping 15 years old would easily counterbalance that of the majority of successful bodybuilders and coaches. Silly me.

20 lbs in a year 1/2 of it being muscle? That's now how it work sat all. You hope to gain 1/2 lb to 1lb a week. So actually 24 lbs a year. while gaining very little fat. Couple lbs of it would be fat. If done properly. going on cycles of bulking and cutting is just stupid. Because most people try to bulk and get really fat.

[.Enigma.]

Yeah you should eat at least 1,000 over. 500 Over is creating a 3500 calorie surplus a week. Not much.

Please dont give advice anymore


Eating 1000 calories over maintenance will just make you gain more fat, its not a very good idea