ok thanks. just to clarify and make sure im understanding you correctly for this bench explanation:
*week 1 would be:
-3 to 4 warm up sets that are working up to 225lbs?
-then do three work sets of 225lbs at three reps each?
EDIT: if my 5 rep max is 240, why am i doing work sets with 225 for 3 reps?
2nd EDIT: would you be willing to let me pay you for your services to plan out an entire 12 week program for me based on your 3 day routine in the original post? when i say "plan out" i mean write out a chart that tells me how much weight in each set and how many reps for every monday wednesday and friday. its a ton of calulations i am not familair with. i can get you pretty much all my 1RM and 5RM for those movements. i understand this could take some time so im more than willing to pay you. just make me an offer.
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Thread: Tom Mutaffis 3-Day Split
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06-22-2010, 12:41 AM #121
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The example progression template that I wrote was not for you, it was based on a hypothetical trainee with a 250 lbs 1RM.
There is a Q&A on another site where I provide free customized routines - I will send you the link for it.
I do typically recommend alternating between 'Volume' and 'Power' training from week to week. This provides you with a balance of strength and hypertrophy.
Because the 3-Day split that was posted here includes higher rep ranges later in the workout the variance in rep range from week to week on the primary movement is not as drastic.Last edited by TomMutaffis; 06-22-2010 at 01:10 PM.
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06-22-2010, 03:43 PM #126
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06-22-2010, 10:39 PM #127
Great answer...just a few more related to my question.
1. Would you recommend to do the same with all of the rep ranges in your program? Or do you think it's better only to ramp up on the big lifts with the low reps? I'm assuming the answer to this would be that if I'd want to focus on strength and hypertrophy, you recommend to ramp up on the main lifts, and then do the 80% x 3 sets for the rest. Correct me if I'm wrong.
2. If I'm currently cutting, I'd most likely have to cut down on volume. Besides that, would I still lift the exact same way? (Ramp up on the big lifts, then do whatever your answer is to #1 in this post for the rest of the lifts).
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06-23-2010, 12:45 PM #128
Hey Tom, awesome post. I'm really liking the looks of your 4/5 day routine on the 1st page. I'm going to switch to it completely next week, but going to try out some of the workouts the rest of this week as well (chest today **** yea).
Perfect timing, squatting 3x a week on the 5x5 has been getting to my left knee a little bit.
Just a couple quick questions:
1) On the Friday workout, for the 3 supersets at the end, what rep range do you recommend?
2) Do you see any real problem replacing Incline BB Press w/ Incline DB Press? My shoulder has a tough time handling much more than 135 on any BB press.
3) What type of cardio would you recommend? I assume light cardio based on the fact we wouldn't want our legs shot for leg day.
4) What type of warmup do you recommend for the 1st complex exercise on each day?
I'm also putting together a spread sheet that I'll post here once it's done.
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1. For most secondary and isolation movements I would not worry about 'ramping up' but would still perform 1-2 warmup sets prior to your working sets. You are correct that if you wanted to have a 'hybrid' program that it would be best to ramp up and train with heavy weights on your primary movement then work through the secondary and accessory work with higher volume but not as much intensity (load).
2. What is your overall goal? If you are cutting while simultaneously trying to increase strength and hypertrophy that could create a problem. Pulling yourself in too many directions will take you nowhere. For individuals who are restricting their calorie or carbohydrate intake I usually recommend moderating the volume/intensity and simply trying to maintain strength/muscle while improving body composition.Pro Strongman & Former National Champion
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07-05-2010, 08:19 AM #132
starting this workout today... right now i'm 6'3 198. i'm not big at all but i'm going to be taking ec stack to lean out a bit, but i'm also on creatine. i'll be logging my workouts. in my log....pretty excited to start!
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07-05-2010, 10:23 AM #133
Is this program appropriate for me? I have been doing Starting Strength for about 3 months total and been lifting for about 6 months total. My arms are definitely lagging due to always doing squats/bench press/deadlift and low volume. only 13-14 inches flexed cold. Im really interested in getting a lot bigger.
My stats are:
5 ft 8
151 lbs
11% Bodyfat
18 yrs old
5RM squat-225 ATG
5RM Bench Press 150
5RM Deadlift 250
5RM Standing Military Press 100
5RM Pendlay Row 130 probably around 150 for Bent Row
Im much more interested in hypertrophy than strength training since I dont play sports and am not a competitive athlete. Just did Starting Strength to get a decent strength base.
Also is there a substitute for walking lunges?Last edited by DurPats; 07-05-2010 at 10:42 AM.
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08-23-2010, 10:31 AM #134
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Going to bump this up in case anyone is looking for some new routines...
If anyone would like for me to help review their current program or customize something for them just let me know (either here or via PM).Pro Strongman & Former National Champion
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09-01-2010, 05:12 AM #136
Hi Tom. I was reading threw this thread and saw that you were willing to help people with their training programs and i was hoping you could help me with mine. I have lifted weights in the past but never for more than a few months at a time and i ve never really followed a program. My strength is pretty embarrassing for my size, i am 6ft tall weigh 110 kgs with a fair bit of fat on my stomach,chest and backside. I ve squatted 100kgs x5, Deadlifted 110kgs x5 and benched 65kgs x5 but i would probably be a bit shy of these lifts at the moment. I was thinking of going with a starting strength like program.
Workout A.
Squats 3x5
Military press 3x5
Deadlifts 1x5
Assisted Chin Ups 2x5
Workout B
Squats 3x5
Bench press 3x5
Barbell Rows 3x5
Assisted Chin Ups 2x5
I work a 4 on 4 off roster at work and plan to lift 3 times in the eight day cycle as i would like to fit in 2 days of gpp or some other energy system work like sprints.
How does this look?
My goals are to get stronger and to gain lean mass. I have a bet with a work colleague which is pretty much which one of us has the better body by the 24th of december. It is going to be judged by our other work mates. I fancy my chances as i am a mix of a meso/endomorph with some fat to lose while the other guy is a skinny fat ectomorph.
With the right combination of training,gpp and diet how much could i change my physique in
the 114 days i have left at my disposal?
Thanks for any advice you could give
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With the right diet and training program you can make drastic changes in 100 days.
I usually recommend an Upper/Lower split since it allows for more specialization and recovery. With that in mind Starting Strength has been around for quite some time and has worked well for some people so if that is something that you want to try then I see no reason not to, but I would make sure to change over to another program after a couple of months.
A good upper/lower split might look something like this:
Workout A: Upper
- Incline Bench Press (2 sets)
- Pullups (2 sets)
- Dumbbell Bench Press (2 sets)
- Barbell or Dumbbell Rows (2 sets)
- Dips (2 sets)
- Biceps Curls (2 sets)
- Side Laterals (2 sets)
Workout B: Lower
- Squat (3-5 sets)
- Deadlift or Rack Pull (3 sets)
- Walking Lunges (2 sets)
- SLDL (2 sets)
For rep range I would work in the 4-10 range and take about two minutes between sets.
On your GPP days I would do some HIIT (high intensity interval training) since that will speed up your metabolism and help you to burn fat.
If you would like to go over your diet and supplement regimen just let me know.
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09-27-2010, 03:02 PM #139
i'm on the 3rd week of this 3 day split but i switched the leg and back/bi days to accomodate my work schedule. hopefully i can report back with some good details in a month as my stats right now are:
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During your chest workout you are going to be working your triceps and shoulders, and during your back workout you are going to be working your biceps. I would recommend having at least two days of rest before training the same muscle group, so your split would have to look like this:
Monday: Chest & Biceps
Tuesday: Rest
Wednesday: Rest
Thursday: Back & Triceps
Friday: Rest
Saturday: Legs & Shoulders
Sunday: Rest
Either way I would definitely recommend going with a Push/Pull or Upper/Lower split rather than the one that you proposed.Pro Strongman & Former National Champion
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11-12-2010, 06:29 AM #146
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Here is a good way to warm up for compound movements:
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I can answer that. Correct me if you disagree, Tom.
push/pull is a split where you work on pressing movements one day and pulling movements the next. Movements where you push something away from your body and movements where you pull something towards it. Deadlifts, chinups, curls, rows, hamstring-dominant movements are all pulls. Bench press, overhead press, triceps movements, squats, dips, are all push movements.
upper/lower means that one day you work your upper body and the other day you work your lower body. DLs can be used as either.GOMAD!
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