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    Weak after stopping creatine

    This may seem pretty noob question, but here it goes:

    I just stopped taking creatine mono about two weeks ago (because I ran out) and this week I am noticing a significant performance decrease (not volume so much as strength). Is it possible that creatine makes that big of a difference? (srs)
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    I doubt that but maybe it has something to do with the placebo effect.

    On the other hand there could be other factors which can play a role; did you change diet, routine, stress, sleep etc?
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    Originally Posted by CupraZ View Post
    I doubt that but maybe it has something to do with the placebo effect.

    On the other hand there could be other factors which can play a role; did you change diet, routine, stress, sleep etc?
    im not a big coffee drinker but lately I have been, then I stopped and had a massive headache.... maybe the withdrawal effect? IDK Diet is on point as is rest
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    Originally Posted by jShock View Post
    This may seem pretty noob question, but here it goes:

    I just stopped taking creatine mono about two weeks ago (because I ran out) and this week I am noticing a significant performance decrease (not volume so much as strength). Is it possible that creatine makes that big of a difference? (srs)
    Yes,

    Once you get off the creatine you're no longer drawing extra water into the muscle cells. (so there's a decrease in cell volumization.) Not only this but you're taking away from the creatine phosphate energy system. This means your workouts can become less explosive and some people will feel a loss of strength.

    That's the easiest way I can explain it, hope this helps.
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    downside of creatine monohydrate, your strength will usually drop and it doesnt work for a lot of people anyways.
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    Originally Posted by kimm4 View Post
    Yes,

    Once you get off the creatine you're no longer drawing extra water into the muscle cells. (so there's a decrease in cell volumization.) Not only this but you're taking away from the creatine phosphate energy system. This means your workouts can become less explosive and some people will feel a loss of strength.

    That's the easiest way I can explain it, hope this helps.
    ^ This explains it. After the creatine all the water-weight is gone so that is probably what you are noticing.
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    Originally Posted by jShock View Post
    This may seem pretty noob question, but here it goes:

    I just stopped taking creatine mono about two weeks ago (because I ran out) and this week I am noticing a significant performance decrease (not volume so much as strength). Is it possible that creatine makes that big of a difference? (srs)
    your strength loss shouldn't be huge... like 5-15% at most. you realistically might have trouble squeezing out those "extra" reps.


    Originally Posted by jShock View Post
    im not a big coffee drinker but lately I have been, then I stopped and had a massive headache.... maybe the withdrawal effect? IDK Diet is on point as is rest
    caffeine withdrawl is real. dose high enough one day and very little the next, expect a headache. you're supposed to ween off caffeine to avert this side effect...
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    Originally Posted by aman88 View Post
    downside of creatine monohydrate, your strength will usually drop and it doesnt work for a lot of people anyways.
    The strength drop isn't very significant, and where do you come off saying it doesn't work for a lot of people?
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    Originally Posted by aman88 View Post
    downside of creatine monohydrate, your strength will usually drop and it doesnt work for a lot of people anyways.
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    Originally Posted by Smety View Post
    The strength drop isn't very significant, and where do you come off saying it doesn't work for a lot of people?
    This.

    While you may experience a slight decrease in strength, it shouldn't be huge, and you strength should still be better than it was before you started taking creatine, assuming you train and eat properly. So if you were lifting X before creatine, and worked your way up to X+10 with the aid of creatine and a progressive training plan, after coming off creatine you may be at X+8.5. Yes, it's lower than when you were using it, but still markedly improved over the starting strength.

    As for not working for a lot of people, non-responders hover around the 20% mark, and some of them can be moved into the responder group with the addition of carbs and/or sodium at the time of creatine supplementation.
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    I think its all because of the state of you mind, In any case if you are not much of a coffee drinker then I would suggest stop drinking it.
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    Originally Posted by kimm4 View Post
    Yes,

    Once you get off the creatine you're no longer drawing extra water into the muscle cells. (so there's a decrease in cell volumization.) Not only this but you're taking away from the creatine phosphate energy system. This means your workouts can become less explosive and some people will feel a loss of strength.

    That's the easiest way I can explain it, hope this helps.
    All true but most likely you wont feel much of it. TS is reporting "significant performance decrease" which is imo not the work of stopping with creatine.
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    Originally Posted by jShock View Post
    This may seem pretty noob question, but here it goes:

    I just stopped taking creatine mono about two weeks ago (because I ran out) and this week I am noticing a significant performance decrease (not volume so much as strength). Is it possible that creatine makes that big of a difference? (srs)
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    Originally Posted by KingInTheNorth View Post
    Bwahahaha, that bout made me choke when I got to the answer part.

    As for the creatine, just buy some cheap mono and get back on it.
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    Originally Posted by kimm4 View Post
    Yes,

    Once you get off the creatine you're no longer drawing extra water into the muscle cells. (so there's a decrease in cell volumization.) Not only this but you're taking away from the creatine phosphate energy system. This means your workouts can become less explosive and some people will feel a loss of strength.

    That's the easiest way I can explain it, hope this helps.
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    your strength loss shouldn't be huge... like 5-15% at most. you realistically might have trouble squeezing out those "extra" reps.




    caffeine withdrawl is real. dose high enough one day and very little the next, expect a headache. you're supposed to ween off caffeine to avert this side effect...
    h3lls yeah its real, monday i thought when i was starting to come out of the hole on my squat that my head was going to burst!

    Originally Posted by Smety View Post
    The strength drop isn't very significant, and where do you come off saying it doesn't work for a lot of people?
    someone said 5-15%......that IS a lot. Consdier this: I was squating 325, and this week im down to 310......thats only 5% change and to me that a huge loss.....

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    no... u just fail at lifting.. work harder
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    Originally Posted by jShock View Post
    notsureifserious, but thanks for the motivational speech
    back when i was a noob i thought supplements would make me stronger and even swore up and down that they did and i would never workout without them!

    then i realized that i was just a failure at lifting.. so i tried harder and voila!! results..
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    Originally Posted by jShock View Post
    someone said 5-15%......that IS a lot. Consdier this: I was squating 325, and this week im down to 310......thats only 5% change and to me that a huge loss.....
    Please, tell me you're not equating your loss of 15lbs squatting to ending your cycle of creatine. That's such a crock.

    15lbs could be due to numerous factors: not enough sleep, not enough food or healthy enough food, etc...
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    im not a big coffee drinker but lately I have been, then I stopped and had a massive headache.... maybe the withdrawal effect? IDK Diet is on point as is rest
    So let me get this straight. You think you lost a huge amount of strength (a whole 15 pounds out of 325) due to coming off creatine... but you think the fact that you didn't used to drink much coffee, then you started drinking a lot, then stopped totally (giving you massive headaches), and this has nothing to do with it?

    Let me wager that if your son had 3 scoops of Jack3d one day, then next day he goes out binge drinking and passes out and must be taken to the hospital, you'd blame it on the Jack3d, not the alcohol right? (Any relation to anyone living or dead is purely co-incidental )

    My point being... you are trying to figure out what could possibly cause your strength loss... while ignoring one of the most obvious potential causes? You realize that caffeine is a huge stimulant right? Just taking 200mg of caffeine pre-workout will like result in a 5%+ across the board increase in weights/reps for some people right? So if you were to go the opposite direction and instead not take caffeine, you might lose 5%. But yes, it's almost definitely the creatine you stopped taking 2 weeks ago causing this sudden drop in weight, not the caffeine changes in your diet
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    Originally Posted by kimm4 View Post
    Yes,

    Once you get off the creatine you're no longer drawing extra water into the muscle cells. (so there's a decrease in cell volumization.) Not only this but you're taking away from the creatine phosphate energy system. This means your workouts can become less explosive and some people will feel a loss of strength.

    That's the easiest way I can explain it, hope this helps.
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    Originally Posted by CupraZ View Post
    All true but most likely you wont feel much of it. TS is reporting "significant performance decrease" which is imo not the work of stopping with creatine.
    If he's newer to training and new to creatine, then the effects will be different compared to someone who's been doing this for a longer period of time.
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    no... u just fail at lifting.. work harder
    Totally uncalled for...no need to be a dick...
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