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    Peak age for maximum strength.

    This is a vague question but I'm just wondering for the average male at what age or age range does he gain the most strength or make the best strength gains? We know that test levels peak in the late teens and the average male stops growing around age 25 but we see young guys lifting a ton of weight and several older men with 'old man strength' pulling a lot. Any comments appreciated.
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    I've heard lots of people saying powerlifters peak in their 30s.
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    Originally Posted by poopoo333 View Post
    I've heard lots of people saying powerlifters peak in their 30s.
    Yes I've heard this too.
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    In my personal opinion I'd say most gains are in teens, but peak age for powerlifters is in the mid to late 30s, which is good cuz it gives me plenty of years to stop being a pussy and to start lifting heavy weights
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    From Supertraining:

    It is well known that strength varies with age, reaching a peak for men and women between the ages of about 20 and 28 years, before gradually diminishing by approximately 1% per annum.
    But you can take that for what it is, and obviously it is based off of weightlifting statistics and lab studies.
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    Originally Posted by TheIronOwl View Post
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    But you can take that for what it is, and obviously it is based off of weightlifting statistics and lab studies.
    How is is obviously based off of weightlifting statistics and lab studies?
    There is no such thing as 'strong enough'

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    Originally Posted by TrettinR View Post
    How is is obviously based off of weightlifting statistics and lab studies?
    Because that is where Siff pulled most of his data from.

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    Originally Posted by TrettinR View Post
    How is is obviously based off of weightlifting statistics and lab studies?
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    Because that is where Siff pulled most of his data from.
    It's stated in the text I just didn't feel the need to include it. Apologies.
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    I'd say mid 30's even up to mid 40's, which is one of the reasons I have a bit of a problem with the master's classifications in PL. You really don't seen much (if any) of a dropoff between open and M1 and M2 classes in a lot of cases.
    Aside from muscle maturity and years of training, it takes years to build the connective tissue required to really handle the bigger lifts.
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    Originally Posted by Arlecchino View Post
    Because that is where Siff pulled most of his data from.
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    It's stated in the text I just didn't feel the need to include it. Apologies.
    Well I'll trust you two. Being a math major I generally take all stats given to me with a grain of salt since it is very easy to gather data to make almost any point you want, its also very easy to gather data in such a way making your claims insignificant.
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    Originally Posted by TrettinR View Post
    Well I'll trust you two. Being a math major I generally take all stats given to me with a grain of salt since it is very easy to gather data to make almost any point you want, its also very easy to gather data in such a way making your claims insignificant.
    No problem. Lab studies are from Hettinger et al (1961) and Mac Dougall et al (1982) if you're curious. Field weightlifting stats are compiled from Oly lifting records.
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    Originally Posted by TrettinR View Post
    Well I'll trust you two. Being a math major I generally take all stats given to me with a grain of salt since it is very easy to gather data to make almost any point you want, its also very easy to gather data in such a way making your claims insignificant.
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    Originally Posted by TheIronOwl View Post
    No problem. Lab studies are from Hettinger et al (1961) and Mac Dougall et al (1982) if you're curious. Field weightlifting stats are compiled from Oly lifting records.
    Sounds legit to me, I'm too lazy to actually look it up at the moment tho.

    Does the study mention a difference between powerlifters and olympic lifters? I feel like Olympic lifters would peak before Powerlifters just due to the speed/acceleration required vs absolute strength.

    And I'm not a fan of using records as a basis for your study of when the average person peaks. People who set these records aren't average by any means and I feel like they shouldn't be the one group of people to look at.
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    Originally Posted by TrettinR View Post
    Sounds legit to me, I'm too lazy to actually look it up at the moment tho.

    Does the study mention a difference between powerlifters and olympic lifters? I feel like Olympic lifters would peak before Powerlifters just due to the speed/acceleration required vs absolute strength.

    And I'm not a fan of using records as a basis for your study of when the average person peaks. People who set these records aren't average by any means and I feel like they shouldn't be the one group of people to look at.
    There is nothing mentioned of PL vs OLY in terms of age that I can remember, only a comparison of differences in performance as it related to BW.

    I agree its not a perfect system of using records, but it still shows a general trend. Which like I said means you can take the statistic for what it is. No matter which route you take there are so many variables you have to pick your battles.
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    I would say, with my complete lack of research, that it will peak naturally when testosterone levels peak. As test declines, so will muscle and power.

    Thus, if a powerlifter is not natural (not saying you aren't, sword_), they won't be needing to worry about the average trends for naturals.
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    Mid 30's to 40 is when males tend to start decreasing test production and begin muscle deterioration. I don't know about people that lift regularly though, I just learned this in one of my classes.

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    Does the study mention a difference between powerlifters and olympic lifters? I feel like Olympic lifters would peak before Powerlifters just due to the speed/acceleration required vs absolute strength.
    Well.....Hossein Rezazadeh was 28ish when he went nuts and broke all those records (350 pounds for refference in case we say weight makes you age faster

    Donnie Thompson was... 44 when he hit the 2905 total at 370

    So at least anecdotally, it seems as though we can say pl'ers last longer, which makes sense given the training that is involved with each sport
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    I think the age range for top performance is increasing due to better training methodologies, understanding of diet, and supplementation. Not to mention things like hormone replacement therapy. Older guys don't need to suffer through low hormone levels anymore; they can get legal prescriptions to keep them high.

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    Originally Posted by Blenderate View Post
    I think the age range for top performance is increasing due to better training methodologies, understanding of diet, and supplementation. Not to mention things like hormone replacement therapy. Older guys don't need to suffer through low hormone levels anymore; they can get legal prescriptions to keep them high.

    Dave Ricks came to train at my gym a few months ago. He's still a highly competitive 181er in the IPF at 50 years old.
    I agree with this, but also I think its important to realize that the stress that squatting or benching places on the joints will be much lower (especially with all the awesome knee wraps and stuff we have now) than heavy olympic moves which is why they tend to retire earlier. And becuase most of the data analysis is done on them, not powerlifters, the #'s are misleading
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    Originally Posted by Torrtrefireto View Post
    Well.....Hossein Rezazadeh was 28ish when he went nuts and broke all those records (350 pounds for refference in case we say weight makes you age faster

    Donnie Thompson was... 44 when he hit the 2905 total at 370

    So at least anecdotally, it seems as though we can say pl'ers last longer, which makes sense given the training that is involved with each sport
    Ya, this is why I think it would be dumb to group the two together when trying to find the peak of strength athletes
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    Originally Posted by Torrtrefireto View Post
    I agree with this, but also I think its important to realize that the stress that squatting or benching places on the joints will be much lower (especially with all the awesome knee wraps and stuff we have now) than heavy olympic moves which is why they tend to retire earlier. And becuase most of the data analysis is done on them, not powerlifters, the #'s are misleading
    From what I can ascertain, the studies I mentioned earlier are a result of isometric testing of untrained individuals. Being as they both showed a peak and regression at a similar age, I wouldn't call the analysis on the Oly lifters misleading, rather not applicable to PL due to gear, HT, etc. which may make the whole idea very difficult to pursue/measure. I'm sure there would be obvious trends in raw, single, and multiply performances but then you'd also have to take into account the progression of gear and as someone stated earlier, training techniques more so IMO than Oly.
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    I honestly feel the age a lifter peaks has more to do with avoiding injury and dealing with all the little aches and pains that come along with ageing rather than natural hormone levels.



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    My guess would be mid 30s.

    Natural hormone levels begin to drop off in late 20s however smart training/nutrition/recovery/supplementation/injury prevention can help offset some of this hormone drop for a decade or so.

    Some people due to their specific genetics can perform well longer. There are these exceptions in many sports and you can quickly think of them whether the 4 major sports in US, fight sports, or many other athletic activities.
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    considering the average age people start lifting (late teens), i'd say late twenties-mid thirties is when people would be at their peak. not because of testosterone production, but because lifting and gaining strength is something that takes TIME
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    gains that come fastest for a male? 17-25 ish


    when a male will be his strongest after years of consistent lifting? 30-43

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    1.Steroids totally change the game and if we are talking about ELITE athletes we can assume their usage is a given.

    2.Training age has alot to do with it. Most guys peak out around 20 years of training age (With steroids involved)

    3. World records have been set by guys in their early 20's all the way to mid 40's

    So what we can take from this is.

    Who the hell knows.
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    Strength/mass/fitness/whatever gains starts around late 20s.

    Once you have a stable career,family etc you will become more mature and stop fu-cking around in the gym. That's when you make the most gains.

    I know this sounds totally unscientific.
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    Originally Posted by Newbtime View Post
    when a male will be his strongest after years of consistent lifting? 30-43
    Why exactly 43? Who said that?

    Even if it's true, it's just an average number. I believe some folks can progress and beat their own PRs (set in younger years) even after 50.

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    Originally Posted by victorn View Post
    Why exactly 43? Who said that?

    Even if it's true, it's just an average number. I believe some folks can progress and beat their own PRs (set in younger years) even after 50.
    im giving a ballpark number. There are tons of people still getting stronger and hitting prs that have been training for years, that are well past 40.. but usually start getting weaker by the time they are around 45.

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    Originally Posted by Newbtime View Post
    but usually start getting weaker by the time they are around 45.
    Agreed. Otherwise Master's records could be the same as Open ones.

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