Beertanks Rugby Thread

[monatu]

What's the new interpretation? Those things usually take a while for the refs to figure out for us in the states. Even when they do figure it out, they usually figure it out wrong and f* the whole works up.

You have to release the tackled player before attempting to play/pilfer the ball.

So no more Richie Mccaw/George Smith/Heinrich Brussouw style tackle+instantly wrap arms around ball+turnover. The turnover's now generally come from 3rd or 4th phase rucks when people are slow getting there, and its generally the SECOND man coming to the ruck that gets the pilfer (as its very, very hard for the tackler to pilfer now).

First few rounds of this years Super 14 the penalty counts were absurd because it took them a while to get used to it.

Conversley, the style also suits the bigger, mobile #7's (the Schalk Burgers, Francois Louw's, David Pocock's etc) as opposed to the smaller ones who used to excel in the ruck.

[beertank23]

You have to release the tackled player before attempting to play/pilfer the ball.

So no more Richie Mccaw/George Smith/Heinrich Brussouw style tackle+instantly wrap arms around ball+turnover. The turnover's now generally come from 3rd or 4th phase rucks when people are slow getting there, and its generally the SECOND man coming to the ruck that gets the pilfer (as its very, very hard for the tackler to pilfer now).

First few rounds of this years Super 14 the penalty counts were absurd because it took them a while to get used to it.

Conversley, the style also suits the bigger, mobile #7's (the Schalk Burgers, Francois Louw's, David Pocock's etc) as opposed to the smaller ones who used to excel in the ruck.

Nice post. Repped on recharge.

[essential222]

You have to release the tackled player before attempting to play/pilfer the ball.

So no more Richie Mccaw/George Smith/Heinrich Brussouw style tackle+instantly wrap arms around ball+turnover. The turnover's now generally come from 3rd or 4th phase rucks when people are slow getting there, and its generally the SECOND man coming to the ruck that gets the pilfer (as its very, very hard for the tackler to pilfer now).

First few rounds of this years Super 14 the penalty counts were absurd because it took them a while to get used to it.

Conversley, the style also suits the bigger, mobile #7's (the Schalk Burgers, Francois Louw's, David Pocock's etc) as opposed to the smaller ones who used to excel in the ruck.

Yeah exactly, its the reason Adam Thompson is not in the all blacks for the tri nations, he was an excellent ruck/breakdown flanker, now the flankers are picked more on speed/running prowess as a linking position to the backs,

For example Victor Vito, ex 7's player incredibly big and mobile with good ball skills.

[SemperMachina]

Hey what team you play for? Mereweather?

[beertank23]

Hey what team you play for? Mereweather?

haha no. They flog us. In my avi, I'm wearing the black.


Workout last night was interesting. Still on 5/3/1, going well, getting stronger. I started a new job like 2 months ago and it's very physically demanding, so my strength has suffered a little plus i'm cutting fat.

Anyway.

Military press.

5 x 40kg, 3 x 55kg and 3 x 65 kg. Definite weak point, but a tough exercise.

Deadlift.

60kg warmup, 120kg x 5, 140 x 3, 160 x 2 and I was feeling it so i went 170kg x 1. Matched my PB here, going to work on more reps at 160 before moving higher.

T bar row.

40kg warmup, 65kg x 8, 75 x 8, 80 x 8. Felt good, have not done these in ages.

GHR/Shrug superset and my finisher was farmers walk/bicep curl superset.

Down to about 115kg.

[beertank23]

hey guise, update.

Down 114.6kg!!

Also had a shocker yesterday, I've been lumped at tighthead and I simply am not a tight head for starters, i'm not 125kg anymore! Got hooked just after halftime, i dont blame the coach, we were getting belted, our whole team was getting belted, my opposite man was owning me, oh well.

Just before I was hooked, I moved to the other siude of the scrum and killed my opposite number.

I managed to get some game film, i'm going to get a mate to chop it up and make a highlights package and upload it.

[TURFC]

yeah its f a rkin awful hey, i feel like it takes me two days to run the 100, and in reality, 19 seconds isnt too far off.

What should i aim for at my weight? 15 seconds?

If you really wanna work up (or down, weight-wise at least) to playing League you just wanna keep pushing yourself until you're in the 11-13 second range. Keep up the hard work man, it'll pay off if you stick to it.

[beertank23]

If you really wanna work up (or down, weight-wise at least) to playing League you just wanna keep pushing yourself until you're in the 11-13 second range. Keep up the hard work man, it'll pay off if you stick to it.

lolwut?

[TURFC]

lolwut?

You said earlier in the thread that you were training to play League. To be in that area of athleticism you want your 100 time to be in the 11-13 second range.

[beertank23]

You said earlier in the thread that you were training to play League. To be in that area of athleticism you want your 100 time to be in the 11-13 second range.

No I didn't.

I play rugby.

[beertank23]

Workouts this week.

531 for football beertank style. I'll just post my last set, dont need to bore everyone with working sets.

Monday

Bench press: 2 x 105kg (was aiming for 3 and failed)
Squat: 3 x 130kg (had two weeks off squatting with a badly jacked up knee)
Cable Row: worked up to 6 x 84kg (stack weight)
Pullups/Wide Grip Pullups/Chin ups.
Tricep Dips: Bodyweight x 3 sets.

The tricep dips are going well, I'm getting stronger and losing weight, so they are going well, I can do my first set of 5 at bodyweight without assistance!


Wednesday

Military Press: 65kg x 3.
Deadlift 160kg x 3.
Barbell Shrugs/GHR superset: Shrugs: 160kg x 8. GHR: Bodyweight x 4. (getting much better at GHR)
Rear Delt/Farmer Walk superset: Delt flys: 10kg x 8. Farmer Walk: 40kg DB's in each hand for about 30-40m.

[shane_o_88]

Workouts this week.

531 for football beertank style. I'll just post my last set, dont need to bore everyone with working sets.

Monday

Bench press: 2 x 105kg (was aiming for 3 and failed)
Squat: 3 x 130kg (had two weeks off squatting with a badly jacked up knee)
Cable Row: worked up to 6 x 84kg (stack weight)
Pullups/Wide Grip Pullups/Chin ups.
Tricep Dips: Bodyweight x 3 sets.

The tricep dips are going well, I'm getting stronger and losing weight, so they are going well, I can do my first set of 5 at bodyweight without assistance!


Wednesday

Military Press: 65kg x 3.
Deadlift 160kg x 3.
Barbell Shrugs/GHR superset: Shrugs: 160kg x 8. GHR: Bodyweight x 4. (getting much better at GHR)
Rear Delt/Farmer Walk superset: Delt flys: 10kg x 8. Farmer Walk: 40kg DB's in each hand for about 30-40m.

Hey man,

Noticed you've been on 5/3/1 for a while and have a few questions...

How do you find the intensity doing it in-season? Not too fatiguing?
Also how do feel about the programme in general? Making good gains?

Im looking for an in-season programme to do for the upcoming season and was leaning towards this but have some concerns as to whether it will be too much volume alongside training and games?

Cheers!

[beertank23]

Hey man,

Noticed you've been on 5/3/1 for a while and have a few questions...

How do you find the intensity doing it in-season? Not too fatiguing?
Also how do feel about the programme in general? Making good gains?

Im looking for an in-season programme to do for the upcoming season and was leaning towards this but have some concerns as to whether it will be too much volume alongside training and games?

Cheers!

The volume is ok, on the high side, but I just suck it up and get it done, without worrying too much about it all. I eat plenty of protein, sleep and roll on a tennis ball.

The thing that fu cks me up, is train hard in the gym and then i go to training and the coach belts us around the park for 2 hours, thats when i get sore and tired.

Making great gains/perhaps a bit fatiguing. The saving grace is the rep scheme is so low it doesn't cause much DOMS, which is great for weary legs as the season drags on.

531 for football is great. I've only done the "in season" part, I have no intention of doing the pre season component, I will switch to Joe Defranco's WSFSBIII in pre season. I will switch back to 531, in season for 2011, because my gains have been awesome. I've got a PR on bench, deadlift and military press.


In season make sure you deload every 4th week or reset your CNS when you can, helps heaps.

[TURFC]

No I didn't.

I play rugby.

My mistake, not sure where I thought I read that. (And you know I meant League style rugby you twat)

[shane_o_88]

Thanks man.

I think I will give it a go, looking forward to it. 6 weeks till 1st game of the season and im already buzzing for it!

Repped.

[beertank23]

Did some sprint work today, to dust the cobwebs out.

10 x 100m.
5 x 50m with sled.
2 x 20m.with sled.

Gassed up real quick because my nutrition today was awful after a big night on the turps.

[beertank23]

Worked up to a 110kg bench tonight and a 140kg squat x 2.

Pretty happy, even though its an equal PR because I've lost 4kg since i did it last time!

Conditioning tuesday tomorrow, rugby training, followed by basketball. Great 3 hour conditioning and plyometric workout!!!

[beertank23]

Max week.

Supposed to be going max overhead press and deadlift, but it's been postponed 1 week due to absenteeism.

Going for a swim instead, to shake out those niggles, also helps with my fat loss goal and rugby conditioning.

[beertank23]

Ended up going into the gym before training.

Maxed 70kg x 3 Military Press. Pretty happy with that.
40kg DB farmer Walks.
Worked up to 160kg barbell shrugs.
Glute Ham raisers 3x4.

[beertank23]

Played a full game of second grade yesterday and then made my debut in 1st grade got 20 minutes, felt ****in awesome. All up played about 100 minutes of football.

In seconds we won 99-0. I scored a try and kicked a goal!

That makes it 5 tries this year and my first ever goal.

[beertank23]

Deload week.

Box squatted for the first time up to 100kg. Box squats are ****in fantastic, brilliant.

DB bench 3x8.
Box Squat 4x6.
Seated Row 1x12, 1x8, 1x6.
Weighted ab circuit.

[godsangina2]

hey guise, update.

Down 114.6kg!!

Also had a shocker yesterday, I've been lumped at tighthead and I simply am not a tight head for starters, i'm not 125kg anymore! Got hooked just after halftime, i dont blame the coach, we were getting belted, our whole team was getting belted, my opposite man was owning me, oh well.

Just before I was hooked, I moved to the other siude of the scrum and killed my opposite number.

I managed to get some game film, i'm going to get a mate to chop it up and make a highlights package and upload it.

gjdm, I knew you had it in you. Keep it up.

[beertank23]

gjdm, I knew you had it in you. Keep it up.

I'm down to 110kg now, leaned up a bit, but still got plenty of fat, probably going to have to go down to 105kgs or so, to shred some more fat and bulk back up. Still scare people when i take my shirt off at the beach

Last game of the regular season today, cannot wait for finals.

[beertank23]

Busted shoulder, feels like ACL/shoulder stinger. Going to take some time. Icing it right now, i'm in pain every time i move it.

Semi finals next week, but i know, i'll be out, this feels awful. I've done the same thing to both shoulders, the right side took about 6 weeks and the left side took 4 months.

feelsbadman.jpg

On the plus side, i come off with 10 to go and still shared players player.

[beertank23]

Starting to become a cardio warrior, very depressing.

35 mins on bike followed by bodyweight split squats/step ups circuit.

Started on Elite Oxy Pro @ 110kg. Not expecting much, but it did kill my appetite this morning.

[beertank23]

Continuing oxy elite pro log here.

Weighed in at 109.6kg, that 500grams lost in 4 days.

Taking 2 AM, 1 PM.

They kill my appetite, the only downside so far is they make me quite ill on the stomach and i seem to be coming down hard off them, like gettin depressed, I dunno.

[shane_o_88]

congrats on the weight loss bro

[EVO-PT]

Good job on dropping the weight mate! I know how much of a pain in the ass it is lol

Any update on the rugby in the USA mate? Did you ever look into/think about Europe? Or is that even a harder nut to crack? Italy super 10 would be sick I reckon!

[beertank23]

Good job on dropping the weight mate! I know how much of a pain in the ass it is lol

Any update on the rugby in the USA mate? Did you ever look into/think about Europe? Or is that even a harder nut to crack? Italy super 10 would be sick I reckon!

Hey brosef,

Like i was saying before, I am going to the US, I cant say too much until everything is set in stone, i guarrantee you'll be the first to know

I did think about europe, but the US is on my hit list, the italian super 10's is a pretty good comp, i think its only semi pro though, there's a fulla running around int he newcastle comp, who played on the wing for parma, he is an absolute weapon, he played 13 games for the highlanders and 2 games for the crusaders and 1 game for NZ maori. He is a speed machine, i think you probably have to have some game to get a contract over there.

the fullas name is hayden pedersen and he killed us, even though he had the ****test foward pack in the comp.

Next Goal: 105kg.

[beertank23]

Started rehab on my troublesome shoulder, feeling better already.

Started westside for skinny boys 3. Obviously going to take it easy on upperbody lifts, i can still do back, arms and abs pain/niggle free so i'll keep these up.

Keep smashing legs and cardio and try to obliterate this stomach fat which is holding on.

Oxy Elite Pro Update: Appetite is now that of a small child, struggling to get down a few tins of tuna and yoghurt, been scolling protein shakes like they're going out of fashion because it's the only thing i feel like eating.

down to 108.5kg. 1.5kg loss in a week, my stomach looks smaller aswell.

Since going from 114kg-108kg, my jeans are falling off my hips, my shirts look like i'm wearing a potato sack.

I reckon when i get my shoulder right, i'll get off these oxy elite's and start throwing some serious iron around the gym.