Calling all OL'ers......:)

**gbg** · 10-20-2009, 01:58 AM

Originally Posted by crackyflipside

Something that American coaches made up and the USAW teaches that confuses the hell out of new lifters trying to perform an action that lasts a few hundredths of a second in the middle of an already complicating lift.

Yeah, I have a strong opinion of knee re bends.

Originally Posted by madaozeki

Oh I know, and I agree. Never force or directly teach the rebend! I worked with a young, eager, American coach a few summers ago who kept trying to force me to "push my knees back" over and over on every lift to "clear the way" for the bar. I have horrible hamstring flexibility and could never do it, and felt like a failure. Until I started watching elite lifters and noticed the great variety of pulling styles

I see a debate in the future

I haven't been looking forward to learning the re bend so I laughed when I read this.

**hazard52003** · 10-21-2009, 07:56 AM

how's everyone training going today? today's actually an off day for me but i have a lot of school work to get done today.. fkin suks..

**gbg** · 10-21-2009, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by hazard52003

how's everyone training going today? today's actually an off day for me but i have a lot of school work to get done today.. fkin suks..

Didn't lift today either, did some conditioning, pulled the sled.

Do any of you guys have tendonitis or carpull tunnel from lifting?

have it in both elbows as well as CT in my right wrist, spoke with the doc at work and he said men in general have a larger structure therefor have larger tunnels and the nerve isn't as likely to get intrapped.

Even so I would think with the years of lifting and repitition something would eventually develop, specifically with cleans.

**crackyflipside** · 10-21-2009, 01:35 PM

I didn't lift either, I went to the doctor in the morning to run yearly bloodwork and just fell asleep when I got back to the house.

And gbg, it's not a debate if we both agree! You should never teach the re-bend. The re-bend is a transition phase that occurs between the first and second pull, the objective of that phase is to assume proper pull positioning for the second pull. So to learn the transition, you have to learn what you are transitioning to; so you first learn the starting position for the second pull. That's why new lifters usually get taught the lift from the hang first, to get that muscle memory for the second pull. So when you work from the floor your body knows where to put the bar so you can explode correctly.

If you want to speed up the transition phase, get your hamstrings stronger and do some work from the hang or blocks below knee.

**gbg** · 10-21-2009, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by crackyflipside

I didn't lift either, I went to the doctor in the morning to run yearly bloodwork and just fell asleep when I got back to the house.

And gbg, it's not a debate if we both agree! You should never teach the re-bend. The re-bend is a transition phase that occurs between the first and second pull, the objective of that phase is to assume proper pull positioning for the second pull. So to learn the transition, you have to learn what you are transitioning to; so you first learn the starting position for the second pull. That's why new lifters usually get taught the lift from the hang first, to get that muscle memory for the second pull. So when you work from the floor your body knows where to put the bar so you can explode correctly.

If you want to speed up the transition phase, get your hamstrings stronger and do some work from the hang or blocks below knee.

I thought you and mezzie said not to teach the rebend?

Edit: just re read post, I could be wrong here but I'm pretty sure Eric want's to teach me the rebend that's what I meant by debate.

**Arlecchino** · 10-21-2009, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by gbg

I thought you and mezzie said not to teach the rebend?

Edit: just re read post, I could be wrong here but I'm pretty sure Eric want's to teach me the rebend that's what I meant by debate.

I want to see if you can learn it and use it. If so, it will lessen the angle your torso is at for part of the 2nd pull, reducing the shear on the herniated disc.

Always remember you are a special case, as you are not normal.

**gbg** · 10-21-2009, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by Arlecchino

I want to see if you can learn it and use it. If so, it will lessen the angle your torso is at for part of the 2nd pull, reducing the shear on the herniated disc.

Always remember you are a special case, as you are not normal.

Your asking for it today!!

I'm not the special needs one here.

**olyw8lifter** · 10-21-2009, 04:44 PM

I haven't lifted yet today, but will when I get home from class. I'm sitting through Evidence right now and will get home about 8:30 to get some snatches and clean & jerks done.

**raffiki** · 10-21-2009, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by gbg

I thought you and mezzie said not to teach the rebend?

Edit: just re read post, I could be wrong here but I'm pretty sure Eric want's to teach me the rebend that's what I meant by debate.

Hips back, hips forward. That's all you need to know. The rebend happens naturally.

I started another hypertrophy phase yesterday. I am also supplementing creatang, so's I can gets huge and ripped and super strong reals quick!

**madaozeki** · 10-21-2009, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by raffiki

I started another hypertrophy phase yesterday. I am also supplementing creatang, so's I can gets huge and ripped and super strong reals quick!

Is that creatine extracted from orangutans?

I snatched after lunch today, and planned on front squatting this evening, but work got in the way! Will catch up tomorrow

**gbg** · 10-22-2009, 12:21 AM

Originally Posted by raffiki

Hips back, hips forward. That's all you need to know. The rebend happens naturally.

I started another hypertrophy phase yesterday. I am also supplementing creatang, so's I can gets huge and ripped and super strong reals quick!

I think I'm doing it already, he's blind!

Tang won't do the job hun

Originally Posted by madaozeki

Is that creatine extracted from orangutans?

I snatched after lunch today, and planned on front squatting this evening, but work got in the way! Will catch up tomorrow

I lol'd at this

**Fury22** · 10-22-2009, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by crackyflipside

I didn't lift either, I went to the doctor in the morning to run yearly bloodwork and just fell asleep when I got back to the house.

And gbg, it's not a debate if we both agree! You should never teach the re-bend. The re-bend is a transition phase that occurs between the first and second pull, the objective of that phase is to assume proper pull positioning for the second pull. So to learn the transition, you have to learn what you are transitioning to; so you first learn the starting position for the second pull. That's why new lifters usually get taught the lift from the hang first, to get that muscle memory for the second pull. So when you work from the floor your body knows where to put the bar so you can explode correctly.

If you want to speed up the transition phase, get your hamstrings stronger and do some work from the hang or blocks below knee.

I'm obviously no expert, but I agree. I have tried to actively do the re-bend, and I always started the second waaaay to early and sent the bar forward, or just did not even get to lift the bar. One of my problems before early on where I developed a lot of bad habits with trying to learn the lifts was actively trying to learn the rebend. I do not even think about the rebend now, only pulling properly and getting into position.

**crackyflipside** · 10-22-2009, 01:54 PM

Anybody else go to sleep after they finish the workout and have their PWO meal? I usually get like 3 hours of napping/sleep after a training session.

**GoJu** · 10-22-2009, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by crackyflipside

Anybody else go to sleep after they finish the workout and have their PWO meal? I usually get like 3 hours of napping/sleep after a training session.

sleep? wtf is that?

**hazard52003** · 10-22-2009, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by crackyflipside

Anybody else go to sleep after they finish the workout and have their PWO meal? I usually get like 3 hours of napping/sleep after a training session.

no, usually i have class or homework to do.. plus i can never fall asleep in the middle of the day... i can't nap anymore i wish i could though

Originally Posted by GoJu

sleep? wtf is that?

lmao. sleep is for the weak

**gbg** · 10-22-2009, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by crackyflipside

Anybody else go to sleep after they finish the workout and have their PWO meal? I usually get like 3 hours of napping/sleep after a training session.

How can you sleep after training? I'm all pumped up, I'm in the gym at 5am have to work after.

Originally Posted by GoJu

sleep? wtf is that?

Exactly!! usually only get 4-5 hours, been sleeping good this past week though getting 7 hrs which is unusual for me.

Snatches today was very happy with them finally getting the technique down.

**olyw8lifter** · 10-22-2009, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by crackyflipside

Anybody else go to sleep after they finish the workout and have their PWO meal? I usually get like 3 hours of napping/sleep after a training session.

I do out of necessity. Mon and Wed night, I don't get home until about 8:15, workout, then have about 30 min to an hour to get to bed. It sucks because sometimes I have issues falling asleep. I usually take some Melatonin or Advil PM on those nights. Mon night is not as bad because I generally don't train as heavy.

**BredFromFire** · 10-22-2009, 05:58 PM

while on the topic of sleep, i only got 3 1/2 hours of sleep last night, went through a whole day of school, then had to do an entire leg day right afterwards in the schools weight room cause i promised to teach my friend how to clean today. couldn't get a preworkout or anything to wake me up, was horrible.

almost c&j'd 84kg's though (185 pounds). just missed the jerk, so close.

did some great deads today though (for me anyway) went up to 325x3, two sets

**crackyflipside** · 10-22-2009, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by madaozeki

I snatched after lunch today, and planned on front squatting this evening, but work got in the way! Will catch up tomorrow

I just saw you in Ghostbusters 2.

**gbg** · 10-23-2009, 02:00 AM

Morning Oly'ers

**Arlecchino** · 10-23-2009, 02:19 AM

Originally Posted by gbg

Morning Oly'ers

Focus, Gisela-San.

**madaozeki** · 10-23-2009, 04:18 AM

Originally Posted by crackyflipside

I just saw you in Ghostbusters 2.

I hate you.

I lived a nightmare while Ally McBeal was popular...

**Arlecchino** · 10-23-2009, 04:36 AM

Originally Posted by madaozeki

I hate you.

I lived a nightmare while Ally McBeal was popular...

That show was a nightmare for everyone.

**gbg** · 10-23-2009, 06:19 AM

Originally Posted by madaozeki

I hate you.

I lived a nightmare while Ally McBeal was popular...

I liked that show

dunno why.

**Arlecchino** · 10-23-2009, 07:20 AM

Originally Posted by gbg

I liked that show

dunno why.

negged

**gbg** · 10-23-2009, 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by Arlecchino

negged

Tell me why I care.

**Arlecchino** · 10-23-2009, 07:41 AM

Originally Posted by gbg

Tell me why I care.

Because you were told to.

**gbg** · 10-23-2009, 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by Arlecchino

Because you were told to.

You go ahead and think that.

**sword_** · 10-23-2009, 08:36 AM

I see np subscribing to another chat thread

I do oly lift here and there.

**gbg** · 10-23-2009, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by sword_

I see np subscribing to another chat thread

I do oly lift here and there.

Hey sword,welcome aboard

how's the oly lifting going?

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