Calling all OL'ers......:)

[someonefat]

I had the privilege to judge a high school power clean national finals a few weeks ago. I saw these kids throw up some serious weight with ugly ass form. It almost made me question why I was bothering to bust my ass trying to learn proper technique. However, the few that did break national records used clean form, and those lifts were amazing to watch.


Good enough reason as any. Good Luck.

Do you have plans to compete one day?

Well for one the horrible technique does not give same athletic benefits as doing the lift properly. Also they very dangerous and will cause injury if continue to lift like that with heavy weights. Also the most ever seen anyone on youtube clean with horrible form like that is little over 400lbs, compare that to 600lbs by hw pros. So doing the lift correctly is always the right thing.

I'm sure mot the guys putting up good weight in clean would fail miserably on snatch if didn't learn proper technique as you can't cheat as much on that lift.

[ZachOly]

Well for one the horrible technique does not give same athletic benefits as doing the lift properly. Also they very dangerous and will cause injury if continue to lift like that with heavy weights. Also the most ever seen anyone on youtube clean with horrible form like that is little over 400lbs, compare that to 600lbs by hw pros. So doing the lift correctly is always the right thing.

I'm sure mot the guys putting up good weight in clean would fail miserably on snatch if didn't learn proper technique as you can't cheat as much on that lift.

It's still kinda humbling to see a bunch of guys in highschool PC'ing waaayyy more then you can full clean with "good" technique...and they're in a lighter weight class.

[kitaristi0]

Does anyone else get calf pain from squatting in oly shoes? I had been squatting high bar atg in Chucks for 3-4 months prior to buying oly shoes with no calf issues, but since starting to use oly shoes (even if I'm only squatting 2x/wk) I feel pain in my calves whenever I go atg. Same thing with front squats. I took a week off from squatting and was fine for the first workout but two days later the pain was back. Maybe pain is too strong a word. Somewhere between soreness and pain, but not a good kind of soreness. I have tried foam rolling my calves, ITB, hip flexors and quads with little success. Anyone experience something similar or have any other ideas on what to do? I could try cutting depth at parallel but I would rather keep going atg if possible.

[someonefat]

ah man starting to get some lower back spasms from high volume of squats and oly lifts

have any of you had this problem before what do you guys do to help heal other then a bunch of bengay so you can still lift.

[Bensauce]

ah man starting to get some lower back spasms from high volume of squats and oly lifts

have any of you had this problem before what do you guys do to help heal other then a bunch of bengay so you can still lift.

Did my 1st back squat training session this year. Parts of my body have been twitching non stop all weekend. Magnesium seems to help for it though.

[crackyflipside]

Did my 1st back squat training session this year. Parts of my body have been twitching non stop all weekend. Magnesium seems to help for it though.

Gaba helps my muscle twitching the most.

[gbg]

ah man starting to get some lower back spasms from high volume of squats and oly lifts

have any of you had this problem before what do you guys do to help heal other then a bunch of bengay so you can still lift.

Foam roll.

[eyeoftheworld]

Does anyone else get calf pain from squatting in oly shoes? I had been squatting high bar atg in Chucks for 3-4 months prior to buying oly shoes with no calf issues, but since starting to use oly shoes (even if I'm only squatting 2x/wk) I feel pain in my calves whenever I go atg. Same thing with front squats. I took a week off from squatting and was fine for the first workout but two days later the pain was back. Maybe pain is too strong a word. Somewhere between soreness and pain, but not a good kind of soreness. I have tried foam rolling my calves, ITB, hip flexors and quads with little success. Anyone experience something similar or have any other ideas on what to do? I could try cutting depth at parallel but I would rather keep going atg if possible.

How much are your feet externally rotating?

[eyeoftheworld]

It's still kinda humbling to see a bunch of guys in highschool PC'ing waaayyy more then you can full clean with "good" technique...and they're in a lighter weight class.

For the ones with solid form, yes, for the reverse curlers who heave the weight up with hips and back...no. Those guys are injuries waiting to happen. I can heave up weight easy, more than I can cleanly.

However, if I tried to do what the 'weakest' at the Women's Olympic weightlifting class at 75kg did, or the hip-curlers, we'd get crushed. If we even tried for the 'weakest' at the men's 56kg class, we'd get crushed. However, with better technique, you'll be clean and jerking those weights or close to it long before the hip-curlers without serious injury.

[kitaristi0]

How much are your feet externally rotating?

Not very much, maybe 20-30 degrees?

[slowman41]

you guise seen the new weightlifting magazine?

its called strength plus. first issue available online for free.

hopefully link is ok: http://www.strengthplusmagazine.com/..._June_2010.pdf

[eyeoftheworld]

Not very much, maybe 20-30 degrees?

Try to rotate them a little less externally. I have soreness in my knees and even my calf due to that. It's going away since I had it corrected. I might be rotating 15 degrees, tops. Tight adductors make loose abductors and vice versa which could create issues in the surrounding areas as I had a Physical Therapist explain to me.

Then again, it could just be you adjusting to the shoes. Make sure you control your descent and do not bounce, of of course.

[GoJu]

Try to rotate them a little less externally. I have soreness in my knees and even my calf due to that. It's going away since I had it corrected. I might be rotating 15 degrees, tops. Tight adductors make loose abductors and vice versa which could create issues in the surrounding areas as I had a Physical Therapist explain to me.

Then again, it could just be you adjusting to the shoes. Make sure you control your descent and do not bounce, of of course.

how did you correct it? I've tried just forcing them not rotate but it never worked, a chiro I spoke to suggested insoles to me but is there any other way?

[eyeoftheworld]

how did you correct it? I've tried just forcing them not rotate but it never worked, a chiro I spoke to suggested insoles to me but is there any other way?

This is gonna sound dumb....I just was told enough times to correct it. One thing that helps is squatting in the same foot and leg position as you vertical jump in. I find that to be ideal for not just for squatting, but the pulls and jerks/overheads as well.

One drill I did was supported squats, holding onto a rack with feet no more than 5-6 inches away to make sure its not an upper body thing. Squat down, hold it for a few seconds and try to sit your torso up and stretch the hips. That way you can really focus on the small details without like 150kg crushing you down.

[ZachOly]

FINALLY FINALLY FINALLY

Snatch 100kg

Did it for two singles too...and @ 94kg

[slowman41]

FINALLY FINALLY FINALLY

Snatch 100kg

Did it for two singles too...and @ 94kg

congrats!

I was trying to figure out what weight class you were in, and saw your post about your last comp, asking for help.

One thing I noticed while watching your youtube channel vids (no stalker) is that when you do overhead lifts you're dropping the weight as soon as you get it all the way up. try holding it for 1 second over head, then lowering, and do 3sec on the last rep. Read this recently from an oly coach (forget which one) but its to help you be stable under the bar.

just a thought.

[boykid28]

FINALLY FINALLY FINALLY

Snatch 100kg

Did it for two singles too...and @ 94kg

nice man.

[gbg]

Sup pin heads.

[crackyflipside]

Sup pin heads.

Everything but my total.

[hazard52003]

sup doods. Finally starting to get back into a normal training schedule. Was in the gym today and things went ok.

I was getting advice from this guy Mike, who is on the men's intercollegiate national team and is going to China at the end of the Month. I love my new gym.

P.S. new journal is up on the sweat pit. (too lazy to duplicate it here as well)

[gbg]

Everything but my total.

Well that's something
you should start a journal at the pit cracky.

sup doods. Finally starting to get back into a normal training schedule. Was in the gym today and things went ok.

I was getting advice from this guy Mike, who is on the men's intercollegiate national team and is going to China at the end of the Month. I love my new gym.

P.S. new journal is up on the sweat pit. (too lazy to duplicate it here as well)

Cool beans didn't see it, are you under the same name?

[scott_donald]

[Korr]

It's still kinda humbling to see a bunch of guys in highschool PC'ing waaayyy more then you can full clean with "good" technique...and they're in a lighter weight class.

Ding............exactly.

[someonefat]

ah I tore my first ever olympic straps today had them for over a year -everyday use-

I think the fact I sweat so much made them wear out a little faster but for 12bucks to last over a year of heavy everyday use I feel good about the purchase and will be ordering another pair soon.

[crackyflipside]

Heaviest one foot up victory celebration?

[GoJu]

ah I tore my first ever olympic straps today had them for over a year -everyday use-

I think the fact I sweat so much made them wear out a little faster but for 12bucks to last over a year of heavy everyday use I feel good about the purchase and will be ordering another pair soon.

ironmind straps are tough to break

just sayin'

[hazard52003]

Heaviest one foot up victory celebration?

LMAO that was awesome. hahahahahahaha

[ZachOly]

ah I tore my first ever olympic straps today had them for over a year -everyday use-

I think the fact I sweat so much made them wear out a little faster but for 12bucks to last over a year of heavy everyday use I feel good about the purchase and will be ordering another pair soon.

Protip: Go to a climbing store and ask for tubular nylon webbing.

I made my own for about $1

[crackyflipside]

Protip: Go to a climbing store and ask for tubular nylon webbing.

I made my own for about $1

Good tip! They are very cheap online, too.

[slowman41]

read this article yesterday, finally got my 2nd pull timing down and added 20lbs to cleans with more in the tank. A little arm pull here and there, but I found when I focused on keeping arms straight for as long as possible as well as really cranking the hip extension, the bar came up surprising fast/explosively. Pretty much "oh, this is how its supposed to work" feelsgoodman

http://www.cathletics.com/articles/i...ty&shortyID=49

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