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    What causes a GH gut?

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    I'm having a discussion on another forum and try explaining to people that steroids or HGH don't have anything to do with the gut bodybuilders get. Why does the gut get big from eating lots of food?

    And any pic of Dexter Jackson with relaxed gut would be cool.

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    I was under the impression it was due to the huge carbohydrate requirements when using insulin and IGF-1.
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    Is it the growing of internal organs which distends the belly? I'm not sure to be honest but I heard insulin use is a big reason for GH guts too.
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    Urm GH?
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    Urm GH?
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    insulin causes the disgusting elastic alien belly that Ronnie, Silvio, Dennis Wolf showed on stage.

    standard distended bellies can be caused by eating too much on a regular basis or a hernia or even liver problems. these ones protrude but still look firm unlike that Ronnie & Silvio elastic looking stomach crap... abdomen looking like a plastic bag that got stretched out too far and can never return to its previous firmer state.
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    Originally Posted by Kiwi_Kid View Post
    I was under the impression it was due to the huge carbohydrate requirements when using insulin and IGF-1.
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    Is it the growing of internal organs which distends the belly? I'm not sure to be honest but I heard insulin use is a big reason for GH guts too.
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    insulin causes the disgusting elastic alien belly that Ronnie, Silvio, Dennis Wolf showed on stage.

    standard distended bellies can be caused by eating too much on a regular basis or a hernia or even liver problems. these ones protrude but still look firm unlike that Ronnie & Silvio elastic looking stomach crap... abdomen looking like a plastic bag that got stretched out too far and can never return to its previous firmer state.
    this ^^^^^^^king kamali was asked this question on his thread a while ago and he said it was slin that caused the distended gut and not gh
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    I always believed an extended gut was caused only by drugs, now I know a big factor is food. I failed a bulk ages ago, I was chuggin' a liter of oats a day etc etc, way more than my digested system could handle. What price did I pay? Well now I have mild distention which I will have forever.
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    Originally Posted by first_second View Post
    I always believed an extended gut was caused only by drugs, now I know a big factor is food. I failed a bulk ages ago, I was chuggin' a liter of oats a day etc etc, way more than my digested system could handle. What price did I pay? Well now I have mild distention which I will have forever.
    Solution to your problem is loose some fat or train your abs, if that does nt work get some pills for constipation. You will not have any kind of gut from food...lol

    80's bodybuilders used to eat huge amounts of food and they did into thje 1990's before 1997 when guts really appeared. Food is not the main reason.
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    Originally Posted by first_second View Post
    I always believed an extended gut was caused only by drugs, now I know a big factor is food. I failed a bulk ages ago, I was chuggin' a liter of oats a day etc etc, way more than my digested system could handle. What price did I pay? Well now I have mild distention which I will have forever.
    its a combined effect. u have it mild, but if u took all the stuff as well it would be major. not just coz it will make u eat even more but there is something about intestines having many igf receptors. the slin makes it even worse as it makes them hungry as hell. guys in the 70s ate tons as well, didnt have guts.
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    Some times its plain old visceral fat and has nothing to do with drugs or even bodybuilding in general.
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    Not enough protein supplements causing them to get kwashiorkor.
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    Originally Posted by Mpower. View Post
    Some times its plain old visceral fat and has nothing to do with drugs or even bodybuilding in general.
    gh increases fat deposits internally around organs, but burns it off under the skin

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    Originally Posted by FullROM View Post
    Solution to your problem is loose some fat or train your abs, if that does nt work get some pills for constipation. You will not have any kind of gut from food...lol

    80's bodybuilders used to eat huge amounts of food and they did into thje 1990's before 1997 when guts really appeared. Food is not the main reason.
    In SOME cases it can be food in the sense that your body will determine where excess calories/fat will go....In some people's specific cases that place is in between organs.
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    Originally Posted by Mpower. View Post
    In SOME cases it can be food in the sense that your body will determine where excess calories/fat will go....In some people's specific cases that place is in between organs.
    They get to about 3% BF, there is no excess fat at that range, food gives you a gut only if you are fat, pros in competition got them because of drugs, although I dont know wich one
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    Originally Posted by morderstwo View Post
    its a combined effect. u have it mild, but if u took all the stuff as well it would be major. not just coz it will make u eat even more but there is something about intestines having many igf receptors. the slin makes it even worse as it makes them hungry as hell. guys in the 70s ate tons as well, didnt have guts.
    Most pros are in their 30's and 40's these days. Arnold and other 70's guys were much younger.

    I'm 50 and gut is considerably bigger than it was in my 20's despite having relatively low sub-cutaneous fat. I'm searching for answers and even went to my doc and had an ultra sound to find out what is in there. My doctor seems to think it's part of aging...the accumulation up of viseral fat.
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    LOL @ people thinking its from food. BBers have always eaten a ton, but when you have been dieting for 8-14 weeks and STILL have a gut at 3% bodyfat, you're an idiot if you think its from food. By that point you dotn have alot in your system, and distention is not permanent, so it would not be there after dieting.
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    sugar sugar sugar, where i live we have a lot of brown people and in their home country they are accustomed to their sugary treats, the only problem is in Canada sugar is ridiculously cheap and they eat way too much of it, all of the brown older men have wicked guts that look like they are pregnant because they have toothpick arms/legs/everything else except the gut. Maybe one too many insulin spikes?
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    lordosis can also give the appearance of a distended gut, although im not sure how many pro BBers have this problem
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    Originally Posted by tropo View Post
    Most pros are in their 30's and 40's these days. Arnold and other 70's guys were much younger.

    I'm 50 and gut is considerably bigger than it was in my 20's despite having relatively low sub-cutaneous fat. I'm searching for answers and even went to my doc and had an ultra sound to find out what is in there. My doctor seems to think it's part of aging...the accumulation up of viseral fat.
    When they had Masters Olympia the guts weren't noticeably bigger than the normal Olympia. Cant really make a judgment off 1 case alone.
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    I never bought the, "Well do you know how much pros eat!" line of reasoning for the cause of GH gut. That never made any sense to me.
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    I've heard several diabetics confirm that insulin has nothing to do with a gut....and I've seen a few scientific studies that show HGH can cause gut growth.

    If you think it isn't drug related you're deluding yourself.
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    Originally Posted by Zeneth View Post
    I've heard several diabetics confirm that insulin has nothing to do with a gut....and I've seen a few scientific studies that show HGH can cause gut growth.

    If you think it isn't drug related you're deluding yourself.
    i think people are too obsessed with the idea that they have to narrow it down to 1 cause alone. its not just the insulin (diabetics dont eat like bb'ers), its not just the gh (ppl on hrt dont have guts), & its not just food. it is the combined effect. aas & insulin with hard training make u eat like u wouldn't imagine, more blood is sent to the intestine to digest it all so the igf receptors are flooded, the gh grows things that are being worked hard + all the swelling & stretching thrown in etc etc. cant anyone see the chain reaction?
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    Imo, I believe that it is because no one does abdominal vacuums anymore. Look at Mark Alvisi, he's the only popular bodybuilder I've seen that can do a good vacuum pose and he has no gut at all.


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    Originally Posted by Zeneth View Post
    I've heard several diabetics confirm that insulin has nothing to do with a gut....and I've seen a few scientific studies that show HGH can cause gut growth.

    If you think it isn't drug related you're deluding yourself.
    Could you point me in the direction of those studies? No one has ever given me a medical reference for the distended gut from GH. I even talked to a doctor doing cutting-edge research in bowel diseases and rehabilitation with GH and she wasn't familiar with these distention and organ-growing side effects.
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    Originally Posted by mrusa85 View Post
    Could you point me in the direction of those studies? No one has ever given me a medical reference for the distended gut from GH. I even talked to a doctor doing cutting-edge research in bowel diseases and rehabilitation with GH and she wasn't familiar with these distention and organ-growing side effects.
    Probably because they don't eat large amounts of food... oh wait hold on that's right its got nothing to do with food as evidenced by 70s bodybuilders.

    Probably because they don't take insulin to get hungry enough to eat large amounts of food... oh wait hold on that's right its got nothing to do with insulin as evidenced by everyday diabetics.

    Originally Posted by morderstwo View Post
    i think people are too obsessed with the idea that they have to narrow it down to 1 cause alone. its not just the insulin (diabetics dont eat like bb'ers), its not just the gh (ppl on hrt dont have guts), & its not just food. it is the combined effect. aas & insulin with hard training make u eat like u wouldn't imagine, more blood is sent to the intestine to digest it all so the igf receptors are flooded, the gh grows things that are being worked hard + all the swelling & stretching thrown in etc etc. cant anyone see the chain reaction?

    Actually its probably just because they don't do stomach vacuums anymore. Tell her to study this instead.
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    Originally Posted by morderstwo View Post
    i think people are too obsessed with the idea that they have to narrow it down to 1 cause alone. its not just the insulin (diabetics dont eat like bb'ers), its not just the gh (ppl on hrt dont have guts), & its not just food. it is the combined effect. aas & insulin with hard training make u eat like u wouldn't imagine, more blood is sent to the intestine to digest it all so the igf receptors are flooded, the gh grows things that are being worked hard + all the swelling & stretching thrown in etc etc. cant anyone see the chain reaction?
    If it was food, why didn't the bodybuilders of old get guts?

    People forget they were eating pretty insane amounts of food, and they knew less about nutrition than now. Sergio Oliva was drinking 3 litres of coca cola a day and eating cakes and **** right up to contest time.
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    Originally Posted by mrusa85 View Post
    Could you point me in the direction of those studies? No one has ever given me a medical reference for the distended gut from GH. I even talked to a doctor doing cutting-edge research in bowel diseases and rehabilitation with GH and she wasn't familiar with these distention and organ-growing side effects.
    I'll try and find them. A few have been posted on this forum.
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    Originally Posted by Zeneth View Post
    If it was food, why didn't the bodybuilders of old get guts?

    People forget they were eating pretty insane amounts of food, and they knew less about nutrition than now. Sergio Oliva was drinking 3 litres of coca cola a day and eating cakes and **** right up to contest time.
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    Originally Posted by feltmann View Post
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