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    preworkout supplement, no caffeine

    i am looking for a good preworkout supplement that doesn't have caffeine. i've taken xplode and superpump before and always get diminishing effects over time because of the caffeine, so i'm looking for something that either doesn't have caffeine or that wont have diminishing effects for me like xplode
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    Originally Posted by etaylor34 View Post
    i am looking for a good preworkout supplement that doesn't have caffeine. i've taken xplode and superpump before and always get diminishing effects over time because of the caffeine, so i'm looking for something that either doesn't have caffeine or that wont have diminishing effects for me like xplode
    Check out Bodyforge by Neogenix. Great product right here:

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/neo/bodyforge.htm

    Also, Ragnarok Caffeine Free, which is coming out with a new formula here soon, and bb.com is saying it is out of stock. But Bodyforge and Ragnarok are good to go.
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    x2 on BodyForge. It gets tons of great reviews!!


    And it's coming to Wheycheap!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Originally Posted by ddfox View Post
    x2 on BodyForge. It gets tons of great reviews!!
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    Check out Bodyforge by Neogenix. Great product right here:

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/neo/bodyforge.htm

    Also, Ragnarok Caffeine Free, which is coming out with a new formula here soon, and bb.com is saying it is out of stock. But Bodyforge and Ragnarok are good to go.
    Bodyforge is a great option and it is also going be on wheycheap this week.
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    Did anyone suggest Bodyforge?
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    I would maybe take a look at CL's Glycer Grow, good pumps, no stims, tons of servings for the money!
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    Originally Posted by RooRooTJ View Post
    Bodyforge is a great option and it is also going be on wheycheap this week.
    sounds awesome. haha but now what's whey cheap and how does it work?
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    Originally Posted by etaylor34 View Post
    i am looking for a good preworkout supplement that doesn't have caffeine. i've taken xplode and superpump before and always get diminishing effects over time because of the caffeine, so i'm looking for something that either doesn't have caffeine or that wont have diminishing effects for me like xplode

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    Kre-celerator by AAEFX has no caffeine and no sugar and, it is gumball flavor.
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    I'm a bit surprised everyone is pimping their products without even asking what you are wanting to get out of the product.

    You want a pre-workout you say, but what do you want the pre-workout to do for you? Do you want it strictly for pumps? Do you want it for energy? Do you want it for recovery?

    If you are wanting energy then getting a stim-free is not what you want as the stims are the energy.

    You've not tried any products with 1,3 dimeth it doesn't seem like. Products like Jack3d, Cryoshock, Maximize, among many others. These products tend to yield a much larger kick and tend to take longer to show reduced results.

    White Flood also seems to have much less diminishing results over time as well though I cannot explain why, but people seem to say they don't notice that problem with it.

    That said, you're supposed to take a break from all of these products for a week or two every 6-8 weeks because your body just adapts to the caffein too much. Have you done this? Have you cut out all caffein for a 2 week period between taking them?
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    Originally Posted by BigRick87 View Post
    Kre-celerator by AAEFX has no caffeine and no sugar and, it is gumball flavor.
    http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/aap/krecelerator.html
    HA HA.....I can't pass this up. Rick beat me to it. Kre-Celerator has been my favorite for a couple of weeks now. I stay focused in the gym, but am able to get to sleep at night. I'm a stim junkie outside of the gym, but this stuff is carb powered.
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    I gotta agree with Shadar here.....different products do different things.
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    MAN - Body Octane

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    Originally Posted by atreyubeat View Post
    Check out Bodyforge by Neogenix. Great product right here:

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/neo/bodyforge.htm

    Also, Ragnarok Caffeine Free, which is coming out with a new formula here soon, and bb.com is saying it is out of stock. But Bodyforge and Ragnarok are good to go.
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    x2 on BodyForge. It gets tons of great reviews!!


    And it's coming to Wheycheap!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Bodyforge is a great option and it is also going be on wheycheap this week.
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    Originally Posted by shadar View Post
    I'm a bit surprised everyone is pimping their products without even asking what you are wanting to get out of the product.

    You want a pre-workout you say, but what do you want the pre-workout to do for you? Do you want it strictly for pumps? Do you want it for energy? Do you want it for recovery?

    If you are wanting energy then getting a stim-free is not what you want as the stims are the energy.

    You've not tried any products with 1,3 dimeth it doesn't seem like. Products like Jack3d, Cryoshock, Maximize, among many others. These products tend to yield a much larger kick and tend to take longer to show reduced results.

    White Flood also seems to have much less diminishing results over time as well though I cannot explain why, but people seem to say they don't notice that problem with it.

    That said, you're supposed to take a break from all of these products for a week or two every 6-8 weeks because your body just adapts to the caffein too much. Have you done this? Have you cut out all caffein for a 2 week period between taking them?
    Pimping the product line is the way of the forum. From the OP I think he'd be fine with a stimulant preworkout, but it seems like he needs a break from it. If you adjust to a stim quick you have probably been using stims for a while. OP, I suggest going off stims for a few weeks, then I suggest doing something like stims every other day, or weekends off or something. Doing something like that will help stims maintain their "kick" for a longer time.
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    i am looking for a good preworkout supplement that doesn't have caffeine.
    Animal Pump. Just remove the red capsule. Done.

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    most supps are going to diminish over time... your body gets used to things. Cycling is the answer.
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    most supps are going to diminish over time... your body gets used to things. Cycling is the answer.
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    i am looking for a good preworkout supplement that doesn't have caffeine. i've taken xplode and superpump before and always get diminishing effects over time because of the caffeine, so i'm looking for something that either doesn't have caffeine or that wont have diminishing effects for me like xplode
    dont mean to get off topic but is BodyForge better then all the other pre workout supplements???? for ex.. no xplode? sp250? blackpowder? white flood???

    or is it just bases on a personal opinion??
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    Originally Posted by vallesa90 View Post
    dont mean to get off topic but is BodyForge better then all the other pre workout supplements???? for ex.. no xplode? sp250? blackpowder? white flood???

    or is it just bases on a personal opinion??



    Apples to Oranges. Body Forge is a stim free pre workout. All the ones you listed have stimulants in them.
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    Apples to Oranges. Body Forge is a stim free pre workout. All the ones you listed have stimulants in them.
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    Originally Posted by shadar View Post
    I'm a bit surprised everyone is pimping their products without even asking what you are wanting to get out of the product.

    You want a pre-workout you say, but what do you want the pre-workout to do for you? Do you want it strictly for pumps? Do you want it for energy? Do you want it for recovery?

    If you are wanting energy then getting a stim-free is not what you want as the stims are the energy.

    You've not tried any products with 1,3 dimeth it doesn't seem like. Products like Jack3d, Cryoshock, Maximize, among many others. These products tend to yield a much larger kick and tend to take longer to show reduced results.

    White Flood also seems to have much less diminishing results over time as well though I cannot explain why, but people seem to say they don't notice that problem with it.

    That said, you're supposed to take a break from all of these products for a week or two every 6-8 weeks because your body just adapts to the caffein too much. Have you done this? Have you cut out all caffein for a 2 week period between taking them?
    yeah i've been looking for something for pump. i don't know if i want creatine in it cause i've got my own creatine i take before the gym with some protein. i think i'm gonna try bodyforge when it comes on wheycheap, but the others also sound good so i might try those afterwards. i used to cycle xplode with cellmass and i would stop feeling it after a couple weeks
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