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    I do stiff legged deadlifts...is that enough, or should I start doing regular deads?
    Secondly, I usually do stiff legged furing my leg routine, if I do add regular deads, should I incorporate it with my leg routine, or my back routine (both of which are already filled with exercises).
    Thirdly, since I will need to take out one of the back/legs exercises for fear of overtraining, if you guys advise me to start regular deads, which exercise(s) should I take out? Here're the exercises I already cycle with during my workouts...
    Back: Pull ups, Wide and Close Grip Pull downs, Machine Row, T-Bar Rows, Dumbell Rows.
    Legs: Squat, Hack Squat, Stiff legged deads, Leg Curl. seated/standing calf raise

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    Id add deads on back day. Drop both pulldowns and the machine rows.
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    So my back day would consist of: Pull ups, Deadlifts, Dumbell rows...right?
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    Originally posted by thatdamngood
    So my back day would consist of: Pull ups, Deadlifts, Dumbell rows...right?
    Id do deads 1st. Also, at least alternate in some barbell rows or T-bar rows w/ the dumbell rows. Dont do dumbell rows every week.
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    Alas, my back workouts will now seem empty... :-(

    Thanks for the advice, Zack
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    Originally posted by zackdarnell
    Id add deads on back day. Drop both pulldowns and the machine rows.
    I'm sorry Zack, my misunderstanding before

    thatdamngood, think common sense bro. If you're already working hamstrings on leg day, keep the Stiff Leg Deads on that day. Hell, you can even remove the leg curls because if you're doing the Stiff Legs right and are doing Squats properly you don't need them whatsoever.

    Definitely do regular Deadlifts, just do them on back day a couple days apart from your leg day (since squats and SLDL's are also going to tax the lower back). Here's what I'd recommend, and I'd welcome feedback from Zack or anyone else:

    Back: Pull ups, Close Grip Pull downs, T-Bar Rows, Deadlifts.

    Legs: Squat, Leg Press, Hack Squat, Stiff legged deads.

    If you're doing these movements with the weight and intensity that you should be, you won't need any other exercises. Make sure that you change your routine as often as you feel necessary and incorporate different exercises and change the order. However, always keep the big movements in there:

    Back: Pull-ups or Barbell Rows (or T-Bar), Deadlifts

    Legs: Squats, SL Deadlifts

    Good Luck bro!!

    EDIT: I forgot about calves - I'd recommend throwing calves into a non-leg day, like shoulders or something. If you do the exercises I listed with the intensity you should be, there's no way you should be able to work your calves properly on the same day as the rest of your legs
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    puts deadlift on legs day
    Booo
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    Originally posted by amusclehead
    puts deadlift on legs day
    Huh?
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    Originally posted by Deception
    I'm sorry Zack, but IMO that is terrible advice Stiff Leg Deadlifts, if done PROPERLY, is a movement for your HAMSTRINGS!!!!
    Why is it bad advice? Im not referring to stiff-legged deads. If I was, I would have said stiff-legged deads. I was referring to deadlifts. Regular deadlifts. Conventional deadlifts (or sumo if he prefers). Note that I said "I'd add deads on back day"...I didnt say "I'd move stiff-legged deads to back day". When I say deads, I mean deadlifts.

    Definitely do regular Deadlifts, just do them on back day a couple days apart from your leg day
    Yeah...thats what I said.

    Legs: Squat, Leg Press, Hack Squat, Stiff legged deads.
    Id get rid of either the hack squat or leg press and do some front squats. Just a personal preference, though.
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    Originally posted by zackdarnell
    Why is it bad advice? Im not referring to stiff-legged deads. If I was, I would have said stiff-legged deads. I was referring to deadlifts. Regular deadlifts. Conventional deadlifts (or sumo if he prefers). Note that I said "I'd add deads on back day"...I didnt say "I'd move stiff-legged deads to back day". When I say deads, I mean deadlifts.

    Yeah...thats what I said.

    Id get rid of either the hack squat or leg press and do some front squats. Just a personal preference, though.
    Totally my misunderstanding. Sorry dude

    I feel the same way about the front squat, but 99.9% are too pussy to do them
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    Originally posted by Deception
    Huh?
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    Originally posted by amusclehead
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    If you're doing sumo-style deadlifts then I can see where you're coming from (as they take the stress of the low back bringing more leg muscles and hip flexors into play)...........but I got the impression he's doing normal deadlifts.

    If he's doing normal deadlifts, why would you recommend doing them? You seem knowledgeable and I'm curious
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    I do SLDL's on back day, last in the routine. If you want to stress the lower back (as I do), keep your feet closer together. Depends on what you want to do really.
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    Originally posted by jweave23
    I do SLDL's on back day, last in the routine. If you want to stress the lower back (as I do), keep your feet closer together. Depends on what you want to do really.
    That makes sense, but wouldn't Good Mornings do the job more efficiently than SLDL's?
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