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    i.e. He's telling you to EAT MORE!!
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    Will be bumping calories and be adding to fat. Protein will remain steady at 250, and adding in ~200 calories. (+20g Fat).

    Camera is coming with me to the gym in a couple hours. Lets see if i can continue to good luck on shoulders lately.



    Pictures I took this morning --- After Meal 1 ---

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    Shoulders & Triceps

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    Focusing on destroying PR's

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    One-Arm Dumbbell Shoulder Press

    75's x 8 (3 Sets)
    *Video*
    80's x 6 (1 Set)



    Cable Lateral

    30 x 10 (2 Sets)
    35 x 10 (1 Set)

    Rear Dumbbell Raises

    20's x 10 (3 Sets)

    Decline Close Grip Bench

    210 x 8 (4 Sets)



    Cable Pressdowns

    175 x 10 (2 Sets)
    190 x 9 (1 Set) <---- The Stack

    Skullcrushers

    115 x 10
    120 x 9 (2 Sets)


    ** All Rests were 1 minute between sets, and 2 minutes between exercises

    Overall

    - PR's Across the Board! Some by 15lbs

    - Off to work the rest of the night, cals will increase tomorrow, debating between + how much to CHO/Fat. Kind of strange to be eating this much at 160lb frame

    - time to GFH!

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    Great work. Pr's are insane.
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    Lookin' good bud. How are you liking Bioforge a 4caps/day?

    I just picked up a bottle and gonna start it up pretty soon. How long are you gonna run it for?
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    Originally Posted by sdfan13 View Post
    Lookin' good bud. How are you liking Bioforge a 4caps/day?

    I just picked up a bottle and gonna start it up pretty soon. How long are you gonna run it for?
    2 Bottles worth. I will be purchasing 2 bottles upon completing of this cycle if I see the results I want (which I have a feeling) for the future and utilizing it during a cut to see the effects.
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    Originally Posted by Surive123 View Post
    Great work. Pr's are insane.
    Definitely

    Originally Posted by LayzieBone085 View Post
    2 Bottles worth. I will be purchasing 2 bottles upon completing of this cycle if I see the results I want (which I have a feeling) for the future and utilizing it during a cut to see the effects.
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    Your log is coming along nicely Layzie, I'm digging the vids! Solid workout btw, glad to see you killing it in the gym.
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    Attacking what lags, Time to Grow!

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    Rack Deadlift

    275 x 8 (4 Sets)
    *Stood on a box and it was below my knee cap, A lot harder.

    Hammer Chins

    BW x 6 (2 Sets)
    BW + 10 x 5 (2 Sets)

    Dumbbell Row

    100's x 10 (3 Sets)

    Low Cable Row

    120 x 10
    140 x 10
    160 x 9

    ** PR +40 Lbs!!!!!!

    wide Grip Pulldowns

    120 x 8 (3 Sets)

    Weighted Hang

    BW + 115 x 100 Seconds

    **+15lbs

    ** All Rests were 1 minute between sets, and 2 minutes between exercises

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    - One of the best sessions to day, a PR of +40 lbs,
    - Weight is steadily rising and bumping around on these calories, I will let it settle before I make a move. Strength is a top priority over weight gain.

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    Originally Posted by LayzieBone085 View Post

    Strength is a top priority over weight gain.
    Don't you want to be a bodybuilder and compete?
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    Originally Posted by MB13 View Post
    Don't you want to be a bodybuilder and compete?
    Yup, but what is unwanted fat gain going to do at a fast rate? Nothing.. I have been there and back and did it on my last bulk, i gained 24lbs in 30 weeks and i had to cut for over 22 weeks to get a decent trim to me, there is no point. Lyle McDonald will tell you as well, and many other pro's or people who compete on here.

    Here is a great article everyone should read and consider. Sure gaining weight is great, but if your just addding more fat than muscle, and its not contributing to anything but hard work attributed to cutting in the future, whats the benefit?

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat...-equation.html
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    Originally Posted by LayzieBone085 View Post
    Yup, but what is unwanted fat gain going to do at a fast rate? Nothing.. I have been there and back and did it on my last bulk, i gained 24lbs in 30 weeks and i had to cut for over 22 weeks to get a decent trim to me, there is no point. Lyle McDonald will tell you as well, and many other pro's or people who compete on here.

    Here is a great article everyone should read and consider. Sure gaining weight is great, but if your just addding more fat than muscle, and its not contributing to anything but hard work attributed to cutting in the future, whats the benefit?

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat...-equation.html

    Thank you so much for saying that. Someone today was telling me I have to eat 1000+ over maintenance in order to get huge. I laughed.

    Like you said there is no point in adding more fat than muscle if you have to do extended cuts to just reveal your gains.

    Repped for followin Lyle... he really knows his stuff. I'm currently trying his generic bulk routine. I hope for the best.

    Subbed and GL with your log.
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    A PR of +40 lbs today????
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    Hey, in your pics, what's that thing on your arm?
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    Bodybugg Update

    Bodybugg has been averaging about 3000 calories

    Gained over 4lbs in this month of August, and that is too much for one month, and not at the pace I want to be at. Some reason i hit 160 at crawling pace, and now exploded 4lbs. Since the start of the log. Dont want to get back into my old ways and how my last bulk ended, I do not want to put myself through hell again and destroying my body for over 20+ weeks to get semi-lean again.





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    Chest & Biceps

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    Smoking it in the A.M.

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    Incline Barbell Bench

    175 x 10 (Video) **+2 Reps**
    185 x 7 *+1 Rep* (3 Sets)



    Flat Dumbbell Bench Press

    80's x 8 (4 Sets)

    *Dropped 20lbs here and focused on flaring the elbows and exposing my chest.

    Low Cable Crossovers

    55 x 10(4 Sets)

    Barbell Curls

    85 x 10 (3 Sets)

    *+2 Reps on all sets

    Dumbbell Hammer Curls

    40's x 8 (3 Sets)

    ** All Rests were 1 minute between sets, and 2 minutes between exercises

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    - Had to really focus on flaring my elbows I need to engage my chest a lot more instead of powerlifting with my triceps. Time to get it to grow.


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    Originally Posted by LayzieBone085 View Post


    Gained over 4lbs in this month of August, and that is too much for one month, and not at the pace I want to be at. Some reason i hit 160 at crawling pace, and now exploded 4lbs. Since the start of the log. Dont want to get back into my old ways and how my last bulk ended, I do not want to put myself through hell again and destroying my body for over 20+ weeks to get semi-lean again.
    Are you gaining fat in your opinion?
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    Originally Posted by THEHUGE View Post
    Are you gaining fat in your opinion?
    x2 Try taking some measurements of your waist as that is where most fat is usually stored and check for any substantial increases.

    How is the bodybugg? Your maintenance is around 3000 on a non workout day?
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    Originally Posted by THEHUGE View Post
    Are you gaining fat in your opinion?
    This is the difference in 11lbs











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    x2 Try taking some measurements of your waist as that is where most fat is usually stored and check for any substantial increases.

    How is the bodybugg? Your maintenance is around 3000 on a non workout day?
    I have taken measurements and do to keep check. Waist has gone up a bit, but more so in other areas like chest,shoulders,arms,legs etc.

    As a natural you cannot expect to gain so much muscle so fast, an average natural will rarely gain over 10lbs of muscle in a year IF THAT, at a 4lb pace, thats 30lbs of fat, and 10lbs of muscle if lucky.

    I do not want to cut away 30lbs of crap for NO reason.
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    Originally Posted by LayzieBone085 View Post
    This is the difference in 11lbs
    I was asking only about the last 4 lbs.
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    Originally Posted by Diaboliclabs View Post
    Get a nutritionist
    I just got done working with a Pro -- Tommy Jeffers (Sporto) for 6 months during my cut and he helped me a lot with nutrition.

    Originally Posted by THEHUGE View Post
    I was asking only about the last 4 lbs.
    Here are comparisons of the last 4lbs





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    Lookin' good Layzie. What rate would be your preference to gain at? How many weeks are you running bioforge for?

    Are you gonna drop your cals to gain at a slower pace now or what?
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    Originally Posted by sdfan13 View Post
    Lookin' good Layzie. What rate would be your preference to gain at? How many weeks are you running bioforge for?

    Are you gonna drop your cals to gain at a slower pace now or what?
    about 2lbs a month max, being a natural you cannot gain as much muscle compared to someone who does run PH's/AAS, so the point to jack up calories and add weight at a lb a week would end up in 52lbs a year.. you will not gain more than 10lbs of muscle or a touch more if you have been lifting for some time.

    Adding 42lbs of fat to my frame, just to cut it off is not on my agenda, ill keep cals at 3600 and not drop them, see what happens. Weight is just fluctuating and messing with my head.
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    Good idea. I think that with your workout intensity and high activity level, your calories should remain high. I think so many people see fluctuation in weight and get scared that they are gaining too much fat, but it could just be glycogen resynthesis coming off a cut, or even just water weight.

    I'm about the same height and weight as you. Gonna be starting up bioforge next week. Should I start at 3/day then move to 4 if I need to? Or just go straight into 4/day like you're doing it?

    Keep up the hard work
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    Originally Posted by sdfan13 View Post
    Good idea. I think that with your workout intensity and high activity level, your calories should remain high. I think so many people see fluctuation in weight and get scared that they are gaining too much fat, but it could just be glycogen resynthesis coming off a cut, or even just water weight.

    I'm about the same height and weight as you. Gonna be starting up bioforge next week. Should I start at 3/day then move to 4 if I need to? Or just go straight into 4/day like you're doing it?

    Keep up the hard work
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    Spurting some Growth.

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    Squat

    245 x 8 (4 Sets)

    *+10lbs

    GHR

    BW x 6 (4 Sets)

    *+1 Rep

    Dumbbell Lunges

    70's x 10 (20 Steps) *3 Sets*

    *+5Lbs

    Lying Leg Curl

    120 x 10 (3 Sets)

    *+10lbs

    Leg Extension

    210 x 10 (3 Sets)

    *+5 lbs

    Seated Calf Raise

    3 Plates + 20 x 8 (3 Sets)

    *+5lbs

    Horizontal Calf Raise

    Stack x 10 (3 Sets)
    *Stack = 370lbs

    ** All Rests were 1 minute between sets, and 2 minutes between exercises

    Overall

    - Continual Progression, and weights keep going up

    - Dosage still 2 caps pre-breakfast, and 2 caps about 8-12 hours later in the day

    - I am amazed at how it feels my recovery is increasing as well between sets, I seemed to not get tired after a few sets of squats, i just wanted to get right back under the bar

    - No libido symptoms at all (i never have had any in the first place prior to the log)

    - Bloodwork tomorrow morning, almost done with bottle 1... lets see if there are any changes in #'s

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    Carbohydrate: 425g
    Protein: 250g
    Calories: 3600

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    oh my bad, i thought you just came off a cut a bit a ago.
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    Originally Posted by sdfan13 View Post
    Gonna be starting up bioforge next week. Should I start at 3/day then move to 4 if I need to? Or just go straight into 4/day like you're doing it?
    4 a day.

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    - Bloodwork tomorrow morning, almost done with bottle 1... lets see if there are any changes in #'s
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    One-Arm Dumbbell Shoulder Press

    75's x 10
    75's x 8 (3 Sets)

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    Cable Laterals

    35 x 10 (3 Sets)

    *+2 Sets

    Rear Dumbbell Raises

    20's x 12 (3 Sets)

    *+2 Reps

    Decline Close Grip Bench

    210 x 10
    210 x 8(3 Sets)

    *+2 Reps

    Cable Pressdowns

    190 x 10 (3 Sets)

    *PR All sets

    SkullCrusher

    120 x 8 (3 Sets)

    ** All Rests were 1 minute between sets, and 2 minutes between exercises

    Overall

    - Dosage 2 caps after bloodwork, and 2 caps later today (about 8-12 Hours apart)

    - More PR's, and added more weight for more sets this session than last shoulders/triceps which is more PR's and pushing more weight.

    - My recovery between sets/workouts is also increasing.

    - Back to school tomorrow, about a few more days left on the first bottle, and bottle 2 will provide epic results

    - Huge I hope you got 2 bottles left for me at the end of this log, looks like I will be making a purchase

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