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    i feel like i could lift for hours. since doing this log, almost all my workouts have been close to 2 hours. i never feel like ive done enough because i just feel like i could keep going.
    i feel similarly when taking plasmagen nitrate

    however, i often find i am able to do more sets and reps within a similar time period, as the biggest effect I notice with this is decreased rest times in addition to more reps within each set.
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    Originally Posted by SwolenONE View Post
    i feel similarly when taking plasmagen nitrate

    however, i often find i am able to do more sets and reps within a similar time period, as the biggest effect I notice with this is decreased rest times in addition to more reps within each set.
    could not have said it better then my man,you almost have to be careful since you will sometimes want to just keep doing your sets with about 5 seconds rest in between!

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    regarding the first part of that post, i too have noticed that when training to induce hypertrophy using volume training, often times strength gains aren't also achieved (unless on cycle).
    its not that my strength didnt go up, its that i actually went down a little bit (or so it seems).
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    Originally Posted by -MSR9889- View Post
    its not that my strength didnt go up, its that i actually went down a little bit (or so it seems).
    what did you say, you lost a rep or two? thats just your body not used to handling heavier weights. try doing a PLing plan and you'll see it's entirely based on training your cns to handle heavier loads as opposed to destroying and rebuilding the muscles, while a hypertrophy program is meant to induce actual muscle gain.

    next week i'm sure you'll get back those reps and then some, thats the way it goes when focusing on low rep/cns loading training.
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    Originally Posted by SwolenONE View Post
    what did you say, you lost a rep or two? thats just your body not used to handling heavier weights. try doing a PLing plan and you'll see it's entirely based on training your cns to handle heavier loads as opposed to destroying and rebuilding the muscles, while a hypertrophy program is meant to induce actual muscle gain.

    next week i'm sure you'll get back those reps and then some, thats the way it goes when focusing on low rep/cns loading training.
    thats very comforting to know

    moving in sunday will be fun after back day tomorrow
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    Originally Posted by -MSR9889- View Post
    thats very comforting to know

    moving in sunday will be fun after back day tomorrow
    yep, next week you'll see the weights flying up

    anytime i do either strength or endurance and then switch back, the first lift is really just getting the body accustomed to the different weight load and time under tension
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    back day today was brutal. i didnt have any carbs with my breakfast so i was completely out of energy once i finished dead lifts. skipped bis because of the lack of energy but i made sure i got abs in.

    deadlift- 135 x 20, 185 x 12, 225 x 8, 315 x 5, 315 x 4, 315 x 3, 315 x 3, 315 x 4
    lat pulldown- 110 x 12, 200 x 4, 200 x 3, 200 x 4, 180 x 6, 190 x 4
    Cable row- 100 x 10, 150 x 6, 160 x 170 x 2

    weighted side crunches- 3 sets of 10 with 30lb dumbbell
    leg raises- 3 sets to failure, 3rd set went to failure then went straight into knee raises to failure
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    got all moved in late last night and unpacked today. exhausted, but i hit the gym around 5 for shoulders. i forgot to bring my notebook with me, but my lifts were pretty on par with what they have been lately. my rest between sets was much shorter than usual and i was in and out of the gym in about an hour. im sticking with those glass shoulder workout techniques to isolate my delts better.

    seated smith machine military press- 12 x 95, 10 x 95, 9 x 105, 8 x 115, 5 x 125, 3 x 125
    seated side lateral raise- 20 x 10, 20 x 8, 22.5 x 7
    standing upright rows with ez bar and wide grip- 75 x 12, 95 x 9, 95 x 7, 95 x 3
    barbell shrugs- 135 x 12, 185 x 9, 225 x 7, 225 x 3
    standing military press- 95 x 6, 105 x 3

    my grip would not hold up on those shrugs so i kinda just said **** it. definitely will make sure i bring my straps next time. i will also be going back to cleans next time. my back was still sore today.

    hopefully i can get chest in tomorrow and back again wednesday. with my schedule, its harder for me to eat a lot of small meals and keep my protein up but ill do my best.
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    so apparently my gym closes at 8 until school starts. im going to try and get there in the mornings so i can spend my evenings with the other people here.

    only got in flat and incline before the gym closed, but it was still good. lifts increased a bit more form last week.

    flat bench- 95 x 15, 135 x 5, 145 x 5, 155 x 5, 170 x 4, 170 x 5, 170 x 3, 175 x 3, 175 x 2
    incline bench (used 60 degree incline like glass)- 135 x 5, 135 x 5, 145 x 3

    came back and did some push ups as well. tomorrow morning ill try and hit my back.
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    At least you got the main lifts in and seen some increases there.
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    Originally Posted by -MSR9889- View Post
    so apparently my gym closes at 8 until school starts. im going to try and get there in the mornings so i can spend my evenings with the other people here.

    only got in flat and incline before the gym closed, but it was still good. lifts increased a bit more form last week.

    flat bench- 95 x 15, 135 x 5, 145 x 5, 155 x 5, 170 x 4, 170 x 5, 170 x 3, 175 x 3, 175 x 2
    incline bench (used 60 degree incline like glass)- 135 x 5, 135 x 5, 145 x 3

    came back and did some push ups as well. tomorrow morning ill try and hit my back.
    it bothers me like none other when gyms close so early
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    im sorry guys, but i could not fall asleep last night and i have no energy to workout. ive barely stayed awake all day. ive been having sleeping issues for the past 2 weeks and im exhausted every day. only got 5 hours last night. ill definitely be up early tomorrow morning for legs and back.

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    sorry to hear about the sleep, i know how that goes. Especially when i lift real late and get stimmed up beforehand.
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    Originally Posted by SwolenONE View Post
    sorry to hear about the sleep, i know how that goes. Especially when i lift real late and get stimmed up beforehand.
    not even the stims man. ive been caffein free for 2 months (minus 1 day somewhere in the middle). all the new RAs were watching a movie and i could barely stay awake. got back to my room and was lying in my bed for 3 hours before i fell asleep. then i woke up early and couldnt fall back asleep again. melatonin isnt working for me anymore even though most nights i dont even take it.
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    banged out a pretty typical back day and another incredible leg day, which is amazing to me based on my lack of sleep the past ~2 weeks (only got 6 hours last night as well).

    deadlift- 135 x 12, 185 x 10, 225 x 8, 315 x 4, 315 x 5, 315 x 4, 315 x 3

    squat- 135 x 10, 185 x 8, 205 x 8, 225 x 4, 225 x 7 (personal best, previous was 4), 225 x 4
    my back was killing me throughout, i almost stopped after doing 185 but im glad i didnt.

    lat pulldown- 110 x 15, 190 x 8, 200 x 5, 200 x 4, 200 x 5

    leg extensions- 240 x 5, 250 x 6, 240 x 5
    i was doing the entire stack so im not really sure how this compares to the machine at my gym back home. i could not do leg burls because i honestly could not figure out how to use the machine. there was nothing to lock my knees in place and i couldnt get a good pull on the leg roll/pad. ideas for other hamstring workouts? weighted lunges maybe?
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    Nice PR bro, ever do glute ham raises?
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    Nice PR bro, ever do glute ham raises?
    enlighten me
    ive always just done leg machines other than squatting
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    enlighten me
    ive always just done leg machines other than squatting


    Looks much easier than they really are. If you don't have a GHR machine you can try using a lat pulldown machine where you put your legs between the pads or create your own way as well. Best hamstring exercise out there along with stiff legged deadlifts.
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    brother just started doing those ^^^^^^

    they look tough
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    my highschool had a glute ham raise machine rather than hyperextensions

    wish i went to a gym that had both all the gyms seem to just have the hyper
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    so i just counted my capsules, have enough for 1 workout and 1 day off. thinking sunday will be my last day for shoulders.

    i was hoping since i have you guys available, maybe you could help me with a couple stacks im working on. i was about to make a thread about this but figured you all know as much as anyone and there would be less clutter. i plan on cutting down to ~175-180 or basically until i have abs and then clean bulking. these are the supps i have/will have available:

    Fat Burners-
    Amp 2 x2
    Napalm x1.5
    Lean Xtreme x2
    AlphaBurn
    Xelerate 20ct can
    1 month plus of samples
    and i will probably be picking up some reduction PM (maybe 4 bottles) with the sale going on

    Test Boosters-
    BioForge x4
    Regenessen x2
    Activate Xtreme x2
    Arom X (probably wont be using due to the AI)
    3-4 T-911 samples
    Beast Sports Test booster sample
    and i will probably be buying 2 bottles T-Force as well due to the sale. Huge highly recommended stacking it with bioforge, mentioned act x as well.

    Others-
    Anabolic Pump

    Staples ill be using-
    Creatine Mono
    Fish Oil
    Multi
    MSM powder
    BCAA Powder
    Intrabolic
    Xtend
    Beta Alanine
    Calcium + Magnesium and Vit D
    Vitamin C + bioflavonoids
    maybe Intravol ~half full
    melatonin as needed, tho i might need to upgrade to a real sleep aid soon
    and i will probably be buying RecoverPro as well due to the sale

    Pre-Workout-
    Nano Vapor ~half full
    whatever samples I have

    Protein-
    Econo Whey
    NitroFusion
    Lipotropic Protein (original)
    HP Casein

    and i think thats everything. not bad, eh?

    any ideas/recommendations are welcome. not sure about running a test booster while cutting and another while bulking, stacking them or running them stand alone to see how they work for me, dosing etc. definitely want to run bioforge for 1 run by itself with 2 bottles over 6 weeks. and i dont know that i would want to wait 4-6 weeks after running a natty t booster to run one again with my bulk but absolutely would if you guys recommended it. i also remember someone (i think michael) saying bioforge was good preworkout because of the icarrin?

    because of the dining halls it will be harder for me to keep my protein intake up so i may need to have more shakes if that matters. i will have open access to whole wheat breads, rice and pasta, salad/sandwich bar plus eggs/egg whites/omelets and oatmeal for breakfast every day.

    greatly appreciate the help and any input guys.
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    Originally Posted by -MSR9889- View Post
    so i just counted my capsules, have enough for 1 workout and 1 day off. thinking sunday will be my last day for shoulders.

    i was hoping since i have you guys available, maybe you could help me with a couple stacks im working on. i was about to make a thread about this but figured you all know as much as anyone and there would be less clutter. i plan on cutting down to ~175-180 or basically until i have abs and then clean bulking. these are the supps i have/will have available:

    Fat Burners-
    Amp 2 x2
    Napalm x1.5
    Lean Xtreme x2
    AlphaBurn
    Xelerate 20ct can
    1 month plus of samples
    and i will probably be picking up some reduction PM (maybe 4 bottles) with the sale going on

    Test Boosters-
    BioForge x4
    Regenessen x2
    Activate Xtreme x2
    Arom X (probably wont be using due to the AI)
    3-4 T-911 samples
    Beast Sports Test booster sample
    and i will probably be buying 2 bottles T-Force as well due to the sale. Huge highly recommended stacking it with bioforge, mentioned act x as well.

    Others-
    Anabolic Pump

    Staples ill be using-
    Creatine Mono
    Fish Oil
    Multi
    MSM powder
    BCAA Powder
    Intrabolic
    Xtend
    Beta Alanine
    Calcium + Magnesium and Vit D
    Vitamin C + bioflavonoids
    maybe Intravol ~half full
    melatonin as needed, tho i might need to upgrade to a real sleep aid soon
    and i will probably be buying RecoverPro as well due to the sale

    Pre-Workout-
    Nano Vapor ~half full
    whatever samples I have

    Protein-
    Econo Whey
    NitroFusion
    Lipotropic Protein (original)
    HP Casein

    and i think thats everything. not bad, eh?

    any ideas/recommendations are welcome. not sure about running a test booster while cutting and another while bulking, stacking them or running them stand alone to see how they work for me, dosing etc. definitely want to run bioforge for 1 run by itself with 2 bottles over 6 weeks. and i dont know that i would want to wait 4-6 weeks after running a natty t booster to run one again with my bulk but absolutely would if you guys recommended it. i also remember someone (i think michael) saying bioforge was good preworkout because of the icarrin?

    because of the dining halls it will be harder for me to keep my protein intake up so i may need to have more shakes if that matters. i will have open access to whole wheat breads, rice and pasta, salad/sandwich bar plus eggs/egg whites/omelets and oatmeal for breakfast every day.

    greatly appreciate the help and any input guys.
    are you 210 now? how much weight total do you want to cut?

    you're right, i was talking about bio forge being great pre workout. good stuff.
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    Lean Xtreme
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    My recommendation for now.
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    Originally Posted by michael3435 View Post
    are you 210 now? how much weight total do you want to cut?

    you're right, i was talking about bio forge being great pre workout. good stuff.
    im ~189 right now. none of my stats are updated unfortunately i dont have a scale at school for the final weigh in, but my weight is basically the same.
    Originally Posted by joakman View Post
    My recommendation for now.
    dont think i should save the AP to bulk with?
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    dont think i should save the AP to bulk with?
    I think on a cut it would help out more, lean bulk being a close second.
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    Originally Posted by joakman View Post
    My recommendation for now.
    Originally Posted by -MSR9889- View Post
    im ~189 right now. none of my stats are updated unfortunately i dont have a scale at school for the final weigh in, but my weight is basically the same.


    dont think i should save the AP to bulk with?
    i would use what joakman recommended but minus the lean xtreme. you'd probably have trouble with all the forslean.

    you shouldnt have a problem at all cutting that amount of weight using bio forge. i leaned out like a mofo and i was bulking. i got lean in places i didnt even know i had.
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    Originally Posted by michael3435 View Post
    i would use what joakman recommended but minus the lean xtreme. you'd probably have trouble with all the forslean.

    you shouldnt have a problem at all cutting that amount of weight using bio forge. i leaned out like a mofo and i was bulking. i got lean in places i didnt even know i had.
    sounds good. worth throwing in reduction pm since im not using the lx? i just ordered 4 bottles
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    sounds good. worth throwing in reduction pm since im not using the lx? i just ordered 4 bottles
    That would be fine. You could low dose the Bio-Forge as well to get the added benefits of the other ingredients.
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