RxAJ embraces his better half with APS' Mesomorph!!!

**DoiEvenLift** · 08-04-2009, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by joakman

Yup, the new version. It should be in the store by tonight (that is what I was told). The GPLC would simply make the product too costly right now and we feel that sales would hinder because of it. Though, we may have something up our sleeves

So there is no new stim-free version coming out along with the stim version? Guess I'm waiting for Ultima then, unless you guys have any extra of the old stim free version lying around.

**michael3435** · 08-04-2009, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by fightbackhxc21

Yes sir, tried it, made me sweat balllllz and I liked it.

(WIU's bro)

ooooooh. nice!

**RxAJ** · 08-04-2009, 07:34 PM

Bit of a late update today but not a whole lot going on anyway. Did some HIIT on the treadmill for about 20 minutes, follow by some light plyometrics (squat jumps and lateral box jumps). Tuesday's are my least favorite day of the week, the exercises arn't that enthralling to me but I do it anyway just get the heart rate up for the day. It's also an off day from Mesomorph so nothing new to report on in that department. Looking forward to the rest of the week!

**fightbackhxc21** · 08-04-2009, 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by jgrate

So there is no new stim-free version coming out along with the stim version? Guess I'm waiting for Ultima then, unless you guys have any extra of the old stim free version lying around.

Bro if you buy Plasmagen Nitrate + Phenadrine I can promise you, you wont regret it. Toss a little white lightning in there and you got yourself a nice nice stack. You should at least give both of them a try so you can asses what product you like better.

**SwolenONE** · 08-05-2009, 01:47 AM

Originally Posted by jgrate

So there is no new stim-free version coming out along with the stim version? Guess I'm waiting for Ultima then, unless you guys have any extra of the old stim free version lying around.

Originally Posted by fightbackhxc21

Bro if you buy Plasmagen Nitrate + Phenadrine I can promise you, you wont regret it. Toss a little white lightning in there and you got yourself a nice nice stack. You should at least give both of them a try so you can asses what product you like better.

fightback, it looks as if jgrate is looking to go stim free

j, consider our Plasmagen Nitrate, its a great product

theres a slew of good non stim options out there

and, unfortunately, from what I know at this time the stim free version has been discontinued

**DoiEvenLift** · 08-05-2009, 01:53 AM

I think I'm gonna wait for Ultima or settle for caff-free ragnarok. I will definitely consider Mesomorph when I choose my next stim pre-wo, it will probably be between that and powder PreSurge. Thanks for the help anyways guys.

**RxAJ** · 08-05-2009, 09:27 AM

Ok, so all day yesterday I couldn't help but notice that my chest, lats, and biceps were really freakin sore! I sort of wrote it off at the time as just the normal DOMS, slightly worse then usual, but probably just the result of a good day at the gym....Mesomorph for the win! However, I woke up this morning feeling MORE sore then when I went to bed last night, and this just never happens. So I started going over the ingredient panel to Mesomorph in my head, trying to determine if anything in there has a track record of increasing DOMS. I have plenty of experience with most of the ingredients in there and have never felt like this before using any of them. In fact, the only compound I know to increase DOMS is ArA, which Mesomorph doesn't contain. Now, the only ingredient in Meso that I havn't used before is CoP, and for some reason I think I sort of wrote it off as being less then important....probably should have known better though, APS wouldn't have put it in there if it wasn't worthy. So I started doing some research this morning, as I knew virtually nothing about this compound other then it's not creatine but is commonly mistaken to be. What I found is very interesting....

A quick google search revealed this to me and I'm just going to highlight a couple important bits from it.http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f15/cr...s-info-909626/

Basically, it?s an intracellular buffer. It helps you train longer by increasing anaerobic glycolysis in the presence of lactic acid. In a nutshell, it helps you increase the time under tension during eccentric motion.

This is key because training failure during eccentric motion is usually due to a breakdown in sarcolemmal integrity and the junction between muscle cells and the nervous system (neuromuscular junction). Once you reach the failure point they can no longer communicate but with creatinol-o-phosphate your typical failure point can be surpassed. This can cause a greater quantal summation of muscle cells recruited during eccentric motion. Basically, you have greater total muscle stimulation which may lead to enhanced hypertrophy. Creatine does not do this.

Theoretically, there are muscle fibers that may never be activated because lactate, and loss of sarcolemmal integrity, stops eccentric motion before those fibers ever get to be activated. By allowing a couple of extra reps in the presence of lactate and improving communication between the ****tic nervous system and the muscle tissue, your body will most likely turn to fibers that never got a chance to truly be targeted before.

maintaining the structural integrity the sacolemma (plasma membrane) plays an essential role in acheiving maximal stimulation and withstanding neuromuscular fatigue. Aplodan (creatinol-o-phospate) reduces Ca2+ overload and Mg2+ depletion but more importantly reduces creatine phosphokinase (CPK) loss across the plasma membrane (7). CPK is an essential enyzme in the anaerobic production of ATP from phosphocreatine. Obviously, limiting it?s loss through an enhanced sarcolemmal membrane is another way Aplodan can improve exercise performance.

In a nutshell, creatinol-o-phosphate actually improves the action of creatine in the muscles. In order for creatine phosphate to be used, sufficient levels of CPK must be present to separate the phosphate and eventually donate it to ADP to make ATP.
Potential Stack 1: C.O.P. and creatine? Sounds good to me.

Overall, like "Dan," said, the importance of C.O.P. lies in maintaining sarcolemmal integrity. Under heavy weight loads, obviously with muscles contracting at such high intensity leads to the breakdown of muscle cell membrane integrity. C.O.P. acts on the basis that the cause of muscle failure is the nervous system's inability to continue signaling skeletal muscle cells while the sarcolemma is under such stress. You can have as much creatine phosphate as you want at this point, but if your CNS can't signal the muscle fibers, it's like having gas without an engine.
Potential Stack 2: Nootropics and C.O.P.? Improving the mind-body connection through two different pathways.

It seems Mesomorph is the culmination of those two "potential stacks" that this guy came up with, and I must say, the way my muscles feel right now is undeniable proof that it works.

**joakman** · 08-05-2009, 10:14 AM

Muscular hypertrophy ftw?

**SwolenONE** · 08-05-2009, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by joakman

Muscular hypertrophy ftw?

lol, no ? about it!

**RxAJ** · 08-05-2009, 02:20 PM

The Workout: Heavy Bag/Cardio
Felt really good yet again today. My overall endurance today seemed to be quite higher, both aerobic and anaerobic. I was able to go for 12 rounds today with minimal rest in between rounds; probably cut down to somewhere around 45 seconds before I wanted to go at it again as compared to the 1.5 minutes I was taking just a week ago. Was sweating my ass off the whole time of course. Mesomorph seems to have by far the greatest thermogenic effect I've felt from products in this category. Wasn't really expecting that but it's absolutely welcomed. I've also been meaning to mention that I'm not getting any kind of stomach issues or GI distress from this stuff, which is nice since some similar products do give me problems. Hitting legs hard tomorrow, going for the underlines on everything! Do stay tuned.

**WIULifter** · 08-05-2009, 02:36 PM

awesome man, glad this stuff is working so well for you. Dont you love when you sweat like crazy?

**bloodsimple1234** · 08-05-2009, 02:37 PM

g.i. distress is a problem for many w products like this,glad none with this one!

**more_knowledge** · 08-05-2009, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by RxAJ

Ok, so all day yesterday I couldn't help but notice that my chest, lats, and biceps were really freakin sore! I sort of wrote it off at the time as just the normal DOMS, slightly worse then usual, but probably just the result of a good day at the gym....Mesomorph for the win! However, I woke up this morning feeling MORE sore then when I went to bed last night, and this just never happens. So I started going over the ingredient panel to Mesomorph in my head, trying to determine if anything in there has a track record of increasing DOMS. I have plenty of experience with most of the ingredients in there and have never felt like this before using any of them. In fact, the only compound I know to increase DOMS is ArA, which Mesomorph doesn't contain. Now, the only ingredient in Meso that I havn't used before is CoP, and for some reason I think I sort of wrote it off as being less then important....probably should have known better though, APS wouldn't have put it in there if it wasn't worthy. So I started doing some research this morning, as I knew virtually nothing about this compound other then it's not creatine but is commonly mistaken to be. What I found is very interesting....

A quick google search revealed this to me and I'm just going to highlight a couple important bits from it.http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f15/cr...s-info-909626/

It seems Mesomorph is the culmination of those two "potential stacks" that this guy came up with, and I must say, the way my muscles feel right now is undeniable proof that it works.

All i can say is WOW! When this guy does a log he gives 110%.The attention to detail and additional information pertaining to the target product is awesome.Impressive log to say the least,looking forward to the rest.

**TTewell** · 08-05-2009, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by RxAJ

Ok, so all day yesterday I couldn't help but notice that my chest, lats, and biceps were really freakin sore! I sort of wrote it off at the time as just the normal DOMS, slightly worse then usual, but probably just the result of a good day at the gym....Mesomorph for the win! However, I woke up this morning feeling MORE sore then when I went to bed last night, and this just never happens. So I started going over the ingredient panel to Mesomorph in my head, trying to determine if anything in there has a track record of increasing DOMS. I have plenty of experience with most of the ingredients in there and have never felt like this before using any of them. In fact, the only compound I know to increase DOMS is ArA, which Mesomorph doesn't contain. Now, the only ingredient in Meso that I havn't used before is CoP, and for some reason I think I sort of wrote it off as being less then important....probably should have known better though, APS wouldn't have put it in there if it wasn't worthy. So I started doing some research this morning, as I knew virtually nothing about this compound other then it's not creatine but is commonly mistaken to be. What I found is very interesting....

A quick google search revealed this to me and I'm just going to highlight a couple important bits from it.http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f15/cr...s-info-909626/

It seems Mesomorph is the culmination of those two "potential stacks" that this guy came up with, and I must say, the way my muscles feel right now is undeniable proof that it works.

Some nice info in those quotes you've got there!

I've experienced the enhanced DOMS from this. I was thinking that a big reason for it was the cell voluminization/pump is so intense that it increases the breakdown of muscle fibers. That plus with the BA and CM, I'm sure you're training longer and harder than you would without it!

**fightbackhxc21** · 08-05-2009, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by TTewell

Some nice info in those quotes you've got there!

I've experienced the enhanced DOMS from this. I was thinking that a big reason for it was the cell voluminization/pump is so intense that it increases the breakdown of muscle fibers. That plus with the BA and CM, I'm sure you're training longer and harder than you would without it!

Cant wait to try this stuff!

**RxAJ** · 08-05-2009, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by WIULifter

awesome man, glad this stuff is working so well for you. Dont you love when you sweat like crazy?

Haha, indeed I do! I almost gauge how hard I'm working based off how much I'm sweating in the moment and how sore I feel the next day. Seems I must be working pretty damn hard on Mesomorph lol.

Originally Posted by more_knowledge

All i can say is WOW! When this guy does a log he gives 110%.The attention to detail and additional information pertaining to the target product is awesome.Impressive log to say the least,looking forward to the rest.

Thanks a lot man! I'm havin a good time doing this too.

Originally Posted by TTewell

I've experienced the enhanced DOMS from this. I was thinking that a big reason for it was the cell voluminization/pump is so intense that it increases the breakdown of muscle fibers. That plus with the BA and CM, I'm sure you're training longer and harder than you would without it!

Yeah the synergy is definitely there. I can't wait to do legs again tomorrow now that I've been on Meso for about a week....the COP should be in full swing now.

**fightbackhxc21** · 08-05-2009, 09:33 PM

I wanna try the meso!

**SwolenONE** · 08-06-2009, 12:34 AM

Originally Posted by fightbackhxc21

I wanna try the meso!

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/aps/mesomorph.html

look no further!

(disregard the supp facts and stim free stuff, as bb hasnt updated the page yet, but does indeed have the new formula!)

**RxAJ** · 08-06-2009, 11:38 AM

Notice: Every rep of every set is performed with the absolute absence of momentum. Momentum is an outside force that aids you in the lifting of a weight, thus reducing the force of the muscular contraction needed to successfully complete a rep. In physics, work is defined as the product of force and distance, and as athletes our goal is to maximize the amount of work we do in order to obtain the best results possible. This can be accomplished by applying the greatest possible force over the greatest possible distance. Range of motion is key.

Red indicates a super set
Underlines indicate an increase in either weight or reps since the previous session
Italics indicate a rest pause set; 10 deep breathes in between intervals

The Workout: Legs/Abs

Leg Press
200 x 10
450 x 8+3+3

Leg Extensions
130 x 10
Leg Press
310 x 10

Lying Leg Curls
150 x 8
Leg Press
310 x 10

Leg Press
330 x 10+5+3

Machine Calf Raise
200 x 10
480 x 12+10+8

Seated Cable Crunches
70 x 10
120 x 8+3+2

Thoughts:
Oh my god I'm gonna be hurting this weekend....such a good workout! I was very pleased with my progress in the super sets this week; was able to increase weight in both exercises and keep the reps the same as last week (with the exception of the leg curls). The lying leg curl machine at my gym only goes up to 150, so I may be looking for something else to do in the not too distant future. Again felt like I could have went heavier on the calf raises; the machine maxes out at 495 so I'll definitely be doing that next week. The reduction in lactic acid burn in my quads this week was remarkable! I remember nearly having to pass out on the leg press after my first super set last week due to the burn, but I was able to get right up this week. The only thing I'm slightly disappointed with was my progress with the 450lb presses. I really wanted to get 10 reps during the first interval of the rest pause set but it just wasn't going to happen. However, I did manage to increase the total number of reps for that set by 2, so I can't be too upset. I can't emphasize enough the amount of drive (willpower, determination, etc..) I am getting from this stuff! Every time I want to quit I somehow find the mental edge to keep pushing on and since so much of this game is a mental battle it's making all the difference.

**Andrew732** · 08-06-2009, 11:41 AM

This is why I love the idea of implementing icarrin to a pwo supplement. Icarrin is great for adding aggression and drive to a workout. This pwo is indulging me and more LOL.

**WIULifter** · 08-06-2009, 11:48 AM

theres all the underlines!

awesome workout man....appreciate the effort your putting into this log.

**fightbackhxc21** · 08-06-2009, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by WIULifter

theres all the underlines!

awesome workout man....appreciate the effort your putting into this log.

Yes this log is going well. Great job man.

**RxAJ** · 08-06-2009, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by Andrew732

This is why I love the idea of implementing icarrin to a pwo supplement. Icarrin is great for adding aggression and drive to a workout. This pwo is indulging me and more LOL.

Absolutely agree. Coupled with the other stims in this blend, it really gives a unique kind of rush you need to feel to believe. Total stimulation of mind and body.

**joakman** · 08-06-2009, 12:02 PM

In for PR's

You are making me want to order it..

**bloodsimple1234** · 08-06-2009, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by joakman

In for PR's

You are making me want to order it..

me too! and no issues at all mixing it ???

**RxAJ** · 08-07-2009, 12:32 PM

Had bit of a rough day today, I was only able to go for six rounds. Not because I got tired but because my hands were freakin killing me. Felt like I was punching a brick wall. I'm gonna just go ahead and spend the money on a nice pair of gloves when I go into work tonight...been putting it off for a while but the ones I'm using just are not cutting it anymore. Kind of a let down cause I was feeling really good today in terms of energy and had been looking forward to the workout, but my hands just couldn't take it. I ended up compensating with a 1 mile jog on the treadmill, some light calisthenics, and some forearm work. Just gonna put it behind me, get some quality rest over the weekend now, and be ready to tear it up on Monday. Going to be targeting shoulders and arms directly on Monday, rather then through pre-exhaust work like I did earlier this week...it's always a fun workout. Asses number 8 and 7 coming up over the weekend

**RxAJ** · 08-07-2009, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by bloodsimple1234

me too! and no issues at all mixing it ???

My bad man, missed your question somehow. I'm not having any issues at all mixing it with the 12oz of water. Some settling occurs, but this is completely normal of just about every pre-workout on the market. Just shake it in between sips and you're good to go.

**RxAJ** · 08-09-2009, 01:38 PM

Been really busy this weekend between work and some unexpected things popping up so I didn't get the time to post yesterday. I'm feeling really good today though and can't wait to get to the gym and throw some weight around tomorrow. It's upper body with the emphasis on shoulders/arms...possibly my favorite workout, so I'll be pushin it hard....with a little help from Mesomorph.

#8

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**SwolenONE** · 08-09-2009, 01:42 PM

glad to hear theres no mixing issues.

this seems like a great supp for somebody that needs the explosive power for weight lifting, and endurance for boxing.

still lovin the visuals btw

**joakman** · 08-09-2009, 02:26 PM

Lookin' forward to the workouts

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