So why is long hair on guys discriminated against in society?

[qwertyui213]

Because when you look at the historical context of it, "short hair" is really just something that came out of Roman tradition and got spread around. You can make the point about short hair originating from the military - but it doesn't either. Not traditionally the U.S. or Western Europe prior to the 20th century at any rate.

Back a couple of hundred years ago guys with long hair and gigantic beards were everywhere, including in the American Civil War and so on. So why is it generally considered either "dirty" or "girly" in today's society?

I'd rather look like one of these guys any fucking day...








Than one of these guys....

[ERDLifter]

cvos u look like a girl

and looks like ur bf pulls ur hair during Doggie

[Zoupa]

You already know why. Same reason that skirts and dresses are girly. Women adopted long hair as the norm and men short hair. We've learned to associate each with their respective gender. Who gives a **** about 200+ years ago?

[Stefano99]

because it makes you look like a *******.

/thread

[qwertyui213]

cvos u look like a girl

and looks like ur bf pulls ur hair during Doggie

Unless we're talking some ultra-styled mid-length emo cut, I don't see your point.

A built guy with short hair vs. a built guy with long hair and a beard, and the guy with short hair looks infinitely more girly to me, every time

[ERDLifter]

Unless we're talking some ultra-styled mid-length emo cut, I don't see your point.

A built guy with short hair vs. a built guy with long hair and a beard, and the guy with short hair looks infinitely more girly to me, every time

lmao epic fail, look at pro bb , they all got short hair/bald, theyre alpha

[qwertyui213]

You already know why. Same reason that skirts and dresses are girly. Women adopted long hair as the norm and men short hair. We've learned to associate each with their respective gender. Who gives a **** about 200+ years ago?

What...?

Guys had long hair back then alongside girls, it's not like there was some sudden paradigm shift. Come the 20th century people just gradually started looking down on long hair for whatever reason.

[qwertyui213]

lmao epic fail, look at pro bb , they all got short hair/bald, theyre alpha

Yeah, and they'd be much more so if they had long hair and beards. I can't believe you could even pretend to argue otherwise.

Look at Arnold in Conan

[Zoupa]

What...?

Guys had long hair back then alongside girls, it's not like there was some sudden paradigm shift. Come the 20th century people just gradually started looking down on long hair for whatever reason.

I never said that it was sudden. My point still stands.

[qwertyui213]

I never said that it was sudden. My point still stands.

What you seem to be saying is that long hair became "adopted" by girls along with dresses and so on. But my point is that girls always traditionally wore their hair long, so it's not like they laid claim to it in the last hundred years. It's a wider issue of perceptions in society

[the_pirate_bay]

Because when you look at the historical context of it, "short hair" is really just something that came out of Roman tradition and got spread around. You can make the point about short hair originating from the military - but it doesn't either. Not traditionally the U.S. or Western Europe prior to the 20th century at any rate.

Back a couple of hundred years ago guys with long hair and gigantic beards were everywhere, including in the American Civil War and so on. So why is it generally considered either "dirty" or "girly" in today's society?

I'd rather look like one of these guys any fucking day...








Than one of these guys....

Because you are not any of these guys.

[Zoupa]

What you seem to be saying is that long hair became "adopted" by girls along with dresses and so on. But my point is that girls always traditionally wore their hair long, so it's not like they laid claim to it in the last hundred years. It's a wider issue of perceptions in society

Ok. Men adopted short hair and anything else is associated with women.

[user456121]

Yeah, and they'd be much more so if they had long hair and beards. I can't believe you could even pretend to argue otherwise.

Look at Arnold in Conan

Look at Arnold in real life.

/facepalm

[qwertyui213]

Because you are not any of these guys.

You mean to say I'm not Arnold or Zakk Wylde? Really?

My point is that it's not an exception that guys look badass with long hair - it's a rule. As long as the guy himself is in good shape, and doesn't style his hair drastically, it'll almost always look more manly than short hair. Excluding things like afros, etc.

If a guy looks like a girl with long hair, odds are he'll look like a girl with short hair. It's not the hair that does it.

[blananana4]

in the year 1870, there was a big meeting of all the coolest poeple in the world, and it was decided that they would all cut their hair and call long haired people ****s.

[qwertyui213]

Look at Arnold in real life.

/facepalm

What point are you trying to make, exactly? that Arnold wears his hair short?

No fucking ****, Einstein. My point is that he'd look even more badass if he had it long, and I used Conan as an example because he's portrayed with long hair there.

/facepalm

[Zoupa]

You mean to say I'm not Arnold or Zakk Wylde? Really?

My point is that it's not an exception that guys look badass with long hair - it's a rule. As long as the guy himself is in good shape, and doesn't style his hair drastically, it'll almost always look more manly than short hair. Excluding things like afros, etc.

If a guy looks like a girl with long hair, odds are he'll look like a girl with short hair. It's not the hair that does it.

There isn't anything feminine about short hair, so long hair being more manly doesn't make sense. That's just your own skewed opinion since you obviously like long hair.

[Cinderblock]

because it's 2009 and that ****s not cool anymore.

[cncman]

Long hair is for women and jesus /thread

[Born2Roam]

if you dont like short hair then you can GIT OUT!!

[marcFE]

Long hair takes to much maintenance and therefore sucks. Don't care if long hair may look better because it's not worth having to put as much effort into my hair as a girl.

[qwertyui213]

There isn't anything feminine about short hair, so long hair being more manly doesn't make sense. That's just your own skewed opinion since you obviously like long hair.

Well, that's all down to interpretation and opinions obviously. You could say that a guy with short hair is the same as a guy with shaved legs. I always link long hair with tough guy Viking-out-in-the-wilderness type stuff. Not with crossdressers.

And I associate guys with short ultra-styled hair with metrosexuals in Starbucks.

Hence more girly to me

[QB_Killa]

Jacked with long hair = alpha
skinny/average with long hair = gay

[RossDB]

because it's 2009 and that ****s not cool anymore.

height 5'7

[qwertyui213]

funny how you only include positive images of guys with long hair but the fact of the matter is 99.99% of the time a guy with long hair is a pussy and dirty. it's gross, keep your hair short like a real man, stop relaying on these mythical drawings of vikings that are never true.


BTW Vikings were manlets, it's a fact. look it up.

Two of those pictures are of real people, you flaming dumbfuck. And they're not "ultra stylized" either. Well, Arnold's muscle proportions sure.

The fact is, I didn't post biased pictures. I posted pretty good pictures of guys with long hair and pretty good pictures of guys with short hair. I'll say it again, if a guy looks girly with long hair he will look girly with short hair.

[qwertyui213]

Jacked with long hair = alpha
skinny/average with long hair = gay

Yeah, my point is really that if a guy is scrawny and baby-faced, he'll look gay whether he has long hair or short, or a wig, or a hat, or whatever

[Devils]

because it's 2009 and that ****s not cool anymore.

This, it's just the current trend.

80's to mid 90's heaps of people rocked long hair.

[Cinderblock]

Well, that's all down to interpretation and opinions obviously. You could say that a guy with short hair is the same as a guy with shaved legs. I always link long hair with tough guy Viking-out-in-the-wilderness type stuff. Not with crossdressers.

And I associate guys with short ultra-styled hair with metrosexuals in Starbucks.

Hence more girly to me

Well then you're just an idiot. Considering the majority of the male population has short hair. I feel stupid for coming into this thread now.

[Zoupa]

Well, that's all down to interpretation and opinions obviously. You could say that a guy with short hair is the same as a guy with shaved legs. I always link long hair with tough guy Viking-out-in-the-wilderness type stuff. Not with crossdressers.

And I associate guys with short ultra-styled hair with metrosexuals in Starbucks.

Hence more girly to me

shaved legs being girly is another made up perception that only came about recently, just like long hair being girly. So you've just defeated your whole argument.

when I think of a manly haircut, I think of a shaved head. Not some faux hawk or something.

[Zoupa]

Two of those pictures are of real people, you flaming dumbfuck. And they're not "ultra stylized" either. Well, Arnold's muscle proportions sure.

The fact is, I didn't post biased pictures. I posted pretty good pictures of guys with long hair and pretty good pictures of guys with short hair. I'll say it again, if a guy looks girly with long hair he will look girly with short hair.

I agree with that. Long hair won't make most men look like a woman. But since it's still associated with women, it'll make 99.9% of men look like a douche. Just like a purse would.