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    I have been having pain in the 'crease' of the elbow, that is not in the area of tennis elbow, or ulnar issues. It's compounded to effecting my entire upper left side.
    I have had the pain and problems since August 22nd, 2015 - nearly 15 months.

    I have seen 5 Orthopedic specialists, the last being Dr. Mark Cohen, the head of hand/elbow at Rush Univeristy in Chicago.
    On top of that: 2 MDs, 2 Rheumatologists, a very well-practiced acupuncturist, 5 PTs/OTs (all of which discharged me saying 'there is nothing else we can do') and that my shoulder is perfectly stable, pain specialist for multiple injections including nerve blocks and a cervical depomedrol (steroid) injection, neurologists...and have been on OTC medications, ice, stretching, strengthening exercises, taking time off from lifting for weeks up to 6 weeks of no upper body work and only light cardio and legs utilizing NO upper body involvement, been on various nerve medications....including Lyrica (horrid side effects), muscle relaxers, Lamotrigine, gabapentin, Xanax.

    My nerve conduction tests were all negative (which typically are even w/ some instances of nerve entrapment or damage).
    My elbow has had 2 MRIs, even one with contrast, neck MRI, shoulder MRI. I have arthritis in my neck, minor disc bulging, but on the opposite side of all of my issues, my shoulder appears to be in perfect shape.

    The only thing that has been 'abnormal' was a slight "brighter" area in the supinator and "minimal" amount of fluid along the brachioradialis (which Rush Univ told me would absolutely not explain the pain and issues I am having).

    The first day I had pain it was during the very end ROM with a strict db hammer curl in the left elbow(where I really fully contracted the bicep hard). The pain is medial to where people feel tennis elbow, and lateral to the biceps tendon deep within the crease of the elbow.
    There was redness and slight swelling over the entire elbow front, and I was misdiagnosed w/ possible RSD/CRPS (regional pain syndrome), and was given the Lyrica... After months the redness decreased and is now only there every few weeks, but pain, aching, and swelling comes and goes. I had to decrease the Lyrica from really negative side effects. I tried 2 sympathetic nerve blocks, which for only a few hours decreased but didn't eliminate the pain. I did 1 steroid injection into the neck, which helped with how badly my arm had been falling asleep at night. It's effects have lasted about 50% now months after...

    Not only is my elbow effected, but my left shoulder hunches forward if I don't consciously tuck my shoulder blade toward my body and 'straighten' my posture. Time off from training actually caused more aching and pain. Random things like waking dishes causes more aching than traditional curls most instances. Riding my motorcycle made it feel MUCH better (my Honda Shadow keeps me upright and I believe it causes a mild traction in the shoulder). Straight armed anything never gives me issues, anything with my hand in a neutral position (certain lat pull downs, the eccentric movement of traditional flat benching, most cable exercises, rowing..) causes the most trouble...and it might be mild during training, but the next decreased days to weeks is AWFUL.
    I've been weight training over ten years. I had a short regimen of prednisone and that was THE BEST it felt in months, but everything negative returned as soon as pred was stopped. The gabapentin helps somewhat, as does heating at night and muscle relaxers. Acupuncture helps muscle spasms and fasiculations I used to get, but laser helps the soreness and redness more- only lasts a few days though.
    I only have very minor distal biceps tendinodis (docent than tendonitis) and is normal for a woman who heavily weight trains. My shoulder had pain and my trap/rhomboid has a chronic knot that I cannot release. My feels are very asymmetrical now, worse than ever. Nothing shows abnormal on diagnostics. Basically, there's no medical reason for why I've been experiencing what I am

    I'll be starting another off-label seizure medication in the next few days once I wean off lamotrigine. Nuerology still feels there is nerve damage from what was at the start an injury that went undiagnosed.

    I'm a woman, so getting a good plan of 'healing' substances has made me leery (I don't want any masculinizing sides, and because nothing is ever found to be technically 'injured' I don't know that it would even really help).. I refuse to stop training or give up on finding a solution.
    I take training when I can get it in, why's my body allows...but my life has been forever altered from this issue. Anyone ever get anywhere with more specific diagnostics...? I wish I could have something that looks at the tissues during movements- is there nerve or tissue entrapment only during end ROM/bursitis/strains/vascular compromise with movement??
    ONE THING I've found that really helps, is using the 'arched' powerlifting style to bench.
    I've found that xanax actually decreases anything major in my life that causes great stress, as the body would she more through that and cause a flare of the elbow. Gabapentin helps decrease pain at night.

    Did anyone find relief with nerve release surgery?
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    Gabapentin helps with nerve pain but I flamation is the primary thing to attack.

    With inflammmation your body and injuries cannot heal.

    Presently to heal myself I am cutting out any inflammatory foods and taking HEmp CBD oil .

    I am taking far less aspirin, and noticing a strong decrease in inflammation in my injury

    CBD in bodybuilding is used mostly as a recovery agent.

    IT has pretty powerful anti inflammatory affects that have been documented .

    IT would be used pre or post workout if there were any signs of inflammation. It has been shown in some studies to be several hundred times more potent then NASAIDS such as aspirin.

    You need to make sure you have a supplement that is just CBD , this means it is a legal supplement , and also that your workout will not be affected

    I used , Oil of Sunshine , for this purpose. It was shipped to me and I supplemented 1 to 2 times a day.
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    Originally Posted by KingZeke2457 View Post
    I have been dealing with similar issues for about 6 months. I have taken up to 5 weeks off. Honestly, it did very little to help me. I ice, stretch and massage the area. But once I start lifting it comes right back. Curls hurt, row motions seem to really trigger it. Pain starts in the brachioradial on the right arm and seems to move into the elbow. The elbow pain, is more that it feels tight to bend. Pulls ups have become difficult too. I have been trying all I can to research this, even met with a neighbor who works as a Physical Therapist for one of the better Athletic Specialty Hospitals, he thought it was a distal bicep tendonitis. His stretches and exercises haven't helped at all. It is frustrating, as I can't seem to do half the weight I was able to do it really puts a damper on my workouts.
    I've got the same thing on my right forarm. I've taken 3 weeks off and it has helped a tiny bit, but once I start lifting it slowly comes back. And it's very difficult for me to perform pulls up as well. For me the pain is intense at first, but then I'm guessing with all the blood flow increasing, the pain is less but still there. And it hurts when I flex my arm really hard as well, it's not a sharp pain when I flex but I can feel a mild pain. I've found that normal curls hurt. Hammer curling does not hurt and I can perform those with 100% effort, not wincing in pain. It's when I turn my wrist straight and curl when I find if difficult. This Brachioradialis thing sucks!
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    Originally Posted by Samazon View Post
    I have been having pain in the 'crease' of the elbow, that is not in the area of tennis elbow, or ulnar issues. It's compounded to effecting my entire upper left side.
    I have had the pain and problems since August 22nd, 2015 - nearly 15 months.

    I have seen 5 Orthopedic specialists, the last being Dr. Mark Cohen, the head of hand/elbow at Rush Univeristy in Chicago.
    On top of that: 2 MDs, 2 Rheumatologists, a very well-practiced acupuncturist, 5 PTs/OTs (all of which discharged me saying 'there is nothing else we can do') and that my shoulder is perfectly stable, pain specialist for multiple injections including nerve blocks and a cervical depomedrol (steroid) injection, neurologists...and have been on OTC medications, ice, stretching, strengthening exercises, taking time off from lifting for weeks up to 6 weeks of no upper body work and only light cardio and legs utilizing NO upper body involvement, been on various nerve medications....including Lyrica (horrid side effects), muscle relaxers, Lamotrigine, gabapentin, Xanax.

    My nerve conduction tests were all negative (which typically are even w/ some instances of nerve entrapment or damage).
    My elbow has had 2 MRIs, even one with contrast, neck MRI, shoulder MRI. I have arthritis in my neck, minor disc bulging, but on the opposite side of all of my issues, my shoulder appears to be in perfect shape.

    The only thing that has been 'abnormal' was a slight "brighter" area in the supinator and "minimal" amount of fluid along the brachioradialis (which Rush Univ told me would absolutely not explain the pain and issues I am having).

    The first day I had pain it was during the very end ROM with a strict db hammer curl in the left elbow(where I really fully contracted the bicep hard). The pain is medial to where people feel tennis elbow, and lateral to the biceps tendon deep within the crease of the elbow.
    There was redness and slight swelling over the entire elbow front, and I was misdiagnosed w/ possible RSD/CRPS (regional pain syndrome), and was given the Lyrica... After months the redness decreased and is now only there every few weeks, but pain, aching, and swelling comes and goes. I had to decrease the Lyrica from really negative side effects. I tried 2 sympathetic nerve blocks, which for only a few hours decreased but didn't eliminate the pain. I did 1 steroid injection into the neck, which helped with how badly my arm had been falling asleep at night. It's effects have lasted about 50% now months after...

    Not only is my elbow effected, but my left shoulder hunches forward if I don't consciously tuck my shoulder blade toward my body and 'straighten' my posture. Time off from training actually caused more aching and pain. Random things like waking dishes causes more aching than traditional curls most instances. Riding my motorcycle made it feel MUCH better (my Honda Shadow keeps me upright and I believe it causes a mild traction in the shoulder). Straight armed anything never gives me issues, anything with my hand in a neutral position (certain lat pull downs, the eccentric movement of traditional flat benching, most cable exercises, rowing..) causes the most trouble...and it might be mild during training, but the next decreased days to weeks is AWFUL.
    I've been weight training over ten years. I had a short regimen of prednisone and that was THE BEST it felt in months, but everything negative returned as soon as pred was stopped. The gabapentin helps somewhat, as does heating at night and muscle relaxers. Acupuncture helps muscle spasms and fasiculations I used to get, but laser helps the soreness and redness more- only lasts a few days though.
    I only have very minor distal biceps tendinodis (docent than tendonitis) and is normal for a woman who heavily weight trains. My shoulder had pain and my trap/rhomboid has a chronic knot that I cannot release. My feels are very asymmetrical now, worse than ever. Nothing shows abnormal on diagnostics. Basically, there's no medical reason for why I've been experiencing what I am

    I'll be starting another off-label seizure medication in the next few days once I wean off lamotrigine. Nuerology still feels there is nerve damage from what was at the start an injury that went undiagnosed.

    I'm a woman, so getting a good plan of 'healing' substances has made me leery (I don't want any masculinizing sides, and because nothing is ever found to be technically 'injured' I don't know that it would even really help).. I refuse to stop training or give up on finding a solution.
    I take training when I can get it in, why's my body allows...but my life has been forever altered from this issue. Anyone ever get anywhere with more specific diagnostics...? I wish I could have something that looks at the tissues during movements- is there nerve or tissue entrapment only during end ROM/bursitis/strains/vascular compromise with movement??
    ONE THING I've found that really helps, is using the 'arched' powerlifting style to bench.
    I've found that xanax actually decreases anything major in my life that causes great stress, as the body would she more through that and cause a flare of the elbow. Gabapentin helps decrease pain at night.

    Did anyone find relief with nerve release surgery?
    Any luck with this yet?
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    Hi all, first time posting and signed up so I could post in and follow this thread in particular. I've been dealing with this or something very similar for about a month. I have mild to moderate pain in my inner elbow just north of the elbow crease when I flex my arm against resistance which is worse as my wrist is pronated. I have seen an ortho who took X-ray and saw nothing out of the ordinary, went on a round of methylprednisolone which did not resolve the issue, took two weeks off and saw little change. I feel it in the mornings right after getting out of bed with just extending my arm, but that goes away after I start moving. My doc advised me to start with eccentric curls using light weight 20 reps stopping if there was pain and increase as capable. His diagnosis was a brachialis strain which he said would slowly improve provided I didn't go nuts with it, he didn't say I needed to completely stop lifting. Some of your issues sound a lot more extreme than mine.
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    Anyone found a solution so far to the pain in the crease around the brachioradialis?
    appreciate your response
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    Anyone ever have any luck fixing this? I developed this problem along with tennis elbow in January of 2011. In 2014, PRP injections eliminated the lateral epicondyle pain. But I still have this. Getting PRP in both brachioradialis in a moment...fingers crossed.
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