Water, sodium, carbs, OH MY!

[Wilde]

not a big fan of totally stopping training days before a show either

I figured this because every sunday was my cheat day and that's when I always looked the best, and I had trained the previous 3 days. Actually monday morning was always the best because I woke up full with tight skin and vascularity no matter how much junk I ate and how much fluid i drank the day before. Only problem is I tried this the day before my comp and yes I looked good in the morning but by afternoon I had smoothed out which cost me a 2nd place finish.

Definitely won't do that again.

[Barn01]

The only day I don't train preComp is the Fri. I'm usually driving most of that day as it is.

[Wilde]

The only day I don't train preComp is the Fri. I'm usually driving most of that day as it is.

Were you the one who drinks green tea prior to a show?

[solid252]

My peak week starts this Saturday (show is April 2nd) , I've been low carbing it all week and will continue though Sunday... then Mon I will really bump up the carbs and load and slowly taper back down through Thursday. Friday i will have the majority of carbs at night, then have my show day meals in place. This early peak week carb load follows Dr. Joe's logic and similar to what Dr. Layne mentioned previously. also, workouts will continue through the week with circuit training at the end. Water will be 2.5 gallons a day.

[Resolutioner]

If it is in the thread, than I'll read it, but I was wondering if anybody had any info or opinions about carb loading high carbs earlier in the week vs. high carbs a day or two before the show?

[fltallpaul]

If it is in the thread, than I'll read it, but I was wondering if anybody had any info or opinions about carb loading high carbs earlier in the week vs. high carbs a day or two before the show?

Dr. Joe and Layne both use this method depending on the athlete. It can be difficult to fully fill out a depleted bodybuilder in a short amount of time. There is a great interview with Dr. Joe regarding this.

http://naturalbodybuildingradio.com/...oe-klemczewski

[solid252]

Dr. Joe and Layne both use this method depending on the athlete. It can be difficult to fully fill out a depleted bodybuilder in a short amount of time. There is a great interview with Dr. Joe regarding this.

http://naturalbodybuildingradio.com/...oe-klemczewski

My coach is friendly with both Dr. Joe and Dr. Layne, he is also a WNBF Pro and he has me following this exact method next week for my peak week. My first show, I'm ready to rock it!

[N01SYtZ]

If it is in the thread, than I'll read it, but I was wondering if anybody had any info or opinions about carb loading high carbs earlier in the week vs. high carbs a day or two before the show?

imo its better to come up slowly, then to just scarf down a ****load a day before

[str8flexed]

If it is in the thread, than I'll read it, but I was wondering if anybody had any info or opinions about carb loading high carbs earlier in the week vs. high carbs a day or two before the show?

you can do it both ways and have it work both ways but there is much less room for error if you load the days before the show

[Resolutioner]

Dr. Joe and Layne both use this method depending on the athlete. It can be difficult to fully fill out a depleted bodybuilder in a short amount of time. There is a great interview with Dr. Joe regarding this.

http://naturalbodybuildingradio.com/...oe-klemczewski

Thanks for the response. That link doesn't take me to an interview LOL, or I'm missing it.

imo its better to come up slowly, then to just scarf down a ****load a day before

Thanks for your opinion. I was thinking nearly the same.

you can do it both ways and have it work both ways but there is much less room for error if you load the days before the show

Thanks for replying. Are you saying "days before" as in earlier in the week or later in the week, right before the show?

Excuse my n00by-ness obviously I still need to research the topic.

[str8flexed]

Thanks for the response. That link doesn't take me to an interview LOL, or I'm missing it.



Thanks for your opinion. I was thinking nearly the same.



Thanks for replying. Are you saying "days before" as in earlier in the week or later in the week, right before the show?

Excuse my n00by-ness obviously I still need to research the topic.

the closer you put your carb load to show day, the less room there is for error

[Slovation]

Layne, watched your new series on peak week last night. Very well put together and should be a sticky if not already. Very informative/no BS/to the point article. Should clear a lot of things up for many people. The amount of effort and time put in that video just goes to show how much of an impact you have in the bb community. Natural bodybuilding is growing fast and you as well as many big names have contributed the most to it. Big thanks!

[str8flexed]

thanks, I appreciate that and glad it was helpful. But really the people at bodybuilding.com did all the work putting it together, I just showed up & talked (though it probably was a total of 15+ hours of filming over 2-3 days) but I'm very lucky to have the oppertunity to do something like that

[fltallpaul]

Thanks for the response. That link doesn't take me to an interview LOL, or I'm missing it.

When I click it I am taken to the page. You can also just google Dr Joe on Natural Bodybuilding Radio.

[Resolutioner]

When I click it I am taken to the page. You can also just google Dr Joe on Natural Bodybuilding Radio.

I see it now, I wasn't looking hard enough. Thanks again.

[ItsMrGreen]

Great post! really helpful info, definitely gonna use this for my next competition

[Barn01]

Were you the one who drinks green tea prior to a show?

Sorry for the late reply ... Yes green tea is all I use as a diuretic. I only start drinking it around noon on Fri and continue even Sat morning with breaky.

[Resolutioner]

the closer you put your carb load to show day, the less room there is for error

I watched your Peak Week series, and this makes more sense now. Especially, to me, from a training aspect.

[Wilde]

Sorry for the late reply ... Yes green tea is all I use as a diuretic. I only start drinking it around noon on Fri and continue even Sat morning with breaky.

Sounds pretty good I think I will try it this year, comp coming up in 11 weeks.

[ltrik]

Excellent thread, I have learned much (from all of you)

[areya2005]

I have a question.

I read the first post, Layne, and it all makes sense. Now, I know when I'm flat and when I'm not. When I'm flat, I look SMALL, and I'm not THAT tiny of a guy. Now, the other day, and not on purpose, it was one of those situations where water had been drawn out of both the muscle and the subcutaneous layer. Never the less, even though I was flat as hell, I was dry as all hell, which made me look the leanest I've ever looked. What if that leaner, yet flatter, look is what will win the competition as opposed to being a little fuller but a little smoother as well? THEN do you have an issue against cutting water?

[str8flexed]

and why do you think cutting water will help you achieve that look.

[woofman81]

Layne, do you see any difference/benefit to drinking Spring water peak week?

[areya2005]

and why do you think cutting water will help you achieve that look.

Maybe it's my inexperience talking here, but wouldn't the water manipulation dry you out, EVEN though it will also dry out the muscle?

[Wilde]

Maybe it's my inexperience talking here, but wouldn't the water manipulation dry you out, EVEN though it will also dry out the muscle?

Is this one of those "trick the body" into pissing out all of the water under the skin by drinking a certain amount on the days leading up to the show....

[str8flexed]

Maybe it's my inexperience talking here, but wouldn't the water manipulation dry you out, EVEN though it will also dry out the muscle?

The ratio does not change so you won't look tighter. Just flatter

[areya2005]

The ratio does not change so you won't look tighter. Just flatter

Gotcha....so this may be beating a dead horse, but do you advise "normal" water intake from 1 day out? I like to SLAM water down, so I usually have a distended stomach lol. Or do you recommend just enough to not be flat?

[str8flexed]

normal water intake til about 2 hours before show, then just sip as needed

[Basil08]

Well of course, but I was going a step further though...from what I have seen and heard from experienced users, it also depends on the type of stuff being used and what base is used...

Sporto

Not to go against you in anyway, but the original post regarding this issue was based on the ester used with the compound. That really does not play as much of a part as the compound itself does. I.E. Test prop would be much different then Tren Ace at those last few days (esters being relatively similar). It is not the ester so much as it is the compound.

[Wilde]

Bumping my favorite thread here as I'm competing in 5 weeks. What are everyone's thoughts on a small acceptable carb load for a person 5`7 and approximately183lb. I'd rather come in slightly under than overload and spill.