>>>the Right Way To Gain 10-15lbs In 15 Days With The One!!!<<<

[SoCool]

So if no Saw P, what could be used to protect the prostate?

[smssambear19]

So if no Saw P, what could be used to protect the prostate?

Pumpkin Seed Extract, Pumpkin Seed Oil. Note: Use only during pct, not on cycle.

Cheers!

[SoCool]

Afterwards Saw P would be OK right? Or is it still not a good idea for PCT? Anything to help receptors while on? What about liver protectant while on? Liv52?

[smssambear19]

Afterwards Saw P would be OK right? Or is it still not a good idea for PCT? Anything to help receptors while on? What about liver protectant while on? Liv52?

After new findings on Saw Palmetto...I would advise against it. Unless you already have problems with BPH there is no reason to use Saw Palmetto. Saw Palmetto actually hasn't shown to be anything special in recent studies...there was no discernable difference between the placebo controlled group and and the saw palmetto group in a double blind study. Also, Saw Palmetto can actually make you more susceptible to health related issues if your taking it and already healthy.

LIV 52 is fine for on cycle. I advise to use Pumpkin seed extract or oil...stay away from saw palmetto. Do some searching on pumpkin seed extract and you'll understand why I am giving you that advice.

Cheers bud!

[RosieCheeScott]

So you are saying there are no benefits in regard to gains with either dosing method? Thats what i'm mostly concerned with.

No, there's not any benefits re gains with either dosing method. The ONE is going to work either way.

Also, I know no alcohol is typically the normal concensus on here when it is brought up. I'm fine with not drinking a drop for the next 4.5 weeks, but it would be nice to be able to at least drink socially (1 or 2 for the night). Is consuming alcohol while on any PH just asking for liver damage, or is it just something that may reduce gains. Is it something potentially dangerous or just something that's not optimal?

Excessive drinking can affect the liver AS WELL AS affecting gains (and yeah, if you were going to do this, then you're wasting your time training anyways). 1-2 drinks wouldn't cause that kind of damage (and red wine would be the best, as it has anti-estrogenic effects), but I wouldn't recommend 1-2 drinks a night. However, better to do EVERYthing right, and err on the side of caution.

Rather ask questions and sound stupid than not ask and be stupid =)

That's fine. But please DO make sure that you have read ALL the threads that contain information on The ONE FIRST!

[Vitruvian]

Anybody know what the wrong way to gain 10-15lbs on The One is?

That is the question to ponder.........

[G.W. Hayduke]

That is the question to ponder.........

I'm just worried that I'll only get 15 lbs worth of noob gains from it.

[profish71]

hi i was wondering i take babby asprin in the morning so my blood dont cloth . for something called lupus anti coagulant excess clotting .would that be a problem taking the one

[MIKEe30]

Excessive drinking can affect the liver AS WELL AS affecting gains (and yeah, if you were going to do this, then you're wasting your time training anyways). 1-2 drinks wouldn't cause that kind of damage (and red wine would be the best, as it has anti-estrogenic effects), but I wouldn't recommend 1-2 drinks a night.

it wouldn't every night, it'd be once or twice a weekend. I can deal with no or one drink though. especially feeling the way i do after 5 days on it. Love it so far. about 7-8lbs up already

[Heracles25]

How about using 3,4-divanillyltetrahydrofuran during PCT for not only freeing up test( maybe 3 weeks into PCT) but for also its benefits on the prostate by binding to SHBG which would prevent E2 on the prostate cell membrane?

[Heracles25]

Bump!

[smssambear19]

it wouldn't every night, it'd be once or twice a weekend. I can deal with no or one drink though. especially feeling the way i do after 5 days on it. Love it so far. about 7-8lbs up already

Forget the alcohol while on cycle...period. If you want to do it right, no whining about drinking. You can live without drinking for a month.

Cheers and good luck bud!

[smssambear19]

How about using 3,4-divanillyltetrahydrofuran during PCT for not only freeing up test( maybe 3 weeks into PCT) but for also its benefits on the prostate by binding to SHBG which would prevent E2 on the prostate cell membrane?

Your perfectly fine using Divanil. Nuff said!

Cheers bud!

[SoCool]

1) Receptor cleansing: You should not have taken any other hormone-based anabolic/androgenic compound for at least 90 days prior to taking The One. This will allow for a greater number of the target androgen receptors (ARs) to be accessible for the active molecule in The One to exert it effects upon.

Can you explain this to me? I've been trying to find info on receptor downgrading and haven't had much luck. Do you have a link to any studies? Thanks.

[thugslife00]

The really wanna try this product but my main concern is Hairloss. how with the affact my hair??, i have used sd, pp, and M1T, all went well but with m1t i felt my hair getting thiner. and my balls shrunk as well. LOL

this be DHT compound, would u recommend it?, or should i look for another product like iForce Dymethazine?

i have been out of the prohormore game for over a year and just been using creatine and stuff.

im 214lbs and 5'9, i have been lifting for over 5years...

please if anyone can help out, or a rep, it would really help make a decision.

[DR_P]

c. Finasteride (Brand names: Proscar, Propecia): Reduces serum DHT activity by 70%; therefore it will virtually eliminate any results otherwise attainable from use of The One. Reference Study: J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2007 May;92(5):1659-65. Epub 2007 Feb 13. The effect of 5alpha-reductase inhibition with dutasteride and finasteride on semen parameters and serum hormones in healthy men.Amory JK, Wang C, Swerdloff RS, Anawalt BD, Matsumoto AM, Bremner WJ, Walker SE, Haberer LJ, Clark RV.
...!

FYI, Finasteride blocks the production of DHT from testosterone. It will NOT affect the effectivity of already available DHT or DHT-derivates (such as methyl-DHT).

[SoCool]

Can you explain this to me? I've been trying to find info on receptor downgrading and haven't had much luck. Do you have a link to any studies? Thanks.

Anyone?

[RosieCheeScott]

The really wanna try this product but my main concern is Hairloss. how with the affact my hair??, i have used sd, pp, and M1T, all went well but with m1t i felt my hair getting thiner. and my balls shrunk as well. LOL

this be DHT compound, would u recommend it?, or should i look for another product like iForce Dymethazine?

i have been out of the prohormore game for over a year and just been using creatine and stuff.

im 214lbs and 5'9, i have been lifting for over 5years...

please if anyone can help out, or a rep, it would really help make a decision.

Loggers (sponsored or unsponsored) have not reported any hair loss, even those who are prone to male pattern baldness. This thread: Any reports of hair loss? has loggers feedback on this issue.

The ONE would be an excellent product to use for gaining mass and strength. It just depends what you want, etc.

Anyone?

On it.

[RosieCheeScott]

Can you explain this to me? I've been trying to find info on receptor downgrading and haven't had much luck. Do you have a link to any studies? Thanks.

Dirk says:

I'm sure there are some studies about taking some time between cycles, but it is really just simple common sense to allow your HPTA to recover in between periods of AAS or PH use- and 90 days would probably yield the best results.

[thugslife00]

Ok i made my choice and went with the following stack.

Applied Nutriceuticals The ONE+2nd Gear Combo Pack $55.95
Applied Nutriceuticals Drive Overdrive, 240 caps $51.95
Applied Nutriceuticals IGF-2, 240 caps $48.95
Applied Nutriceuticals Bio-Mend, 60 Caps $11.95
Applied Nutriceuticals NeoVar, 110 Caps $13.95
Planetary Formulas? Pumpkin Seed Oil 1000mg Full Spectrum?, 45 softgels $5.95


i got all my stuff from ***************** since every product on bb.com was greatly overpriced.


anyways im gonna run 4caps a day for 4 weeks, on the last week i guess im gonna have to run 3 caps the last 2 day, since this product only has 110caps.

i was also thinking about taking Activiate Xtreme right after my PCT is done. what ya guys think??? mods feel free to also coments.


peace
ron

[thugslife00]

discount anabolics is top notch for prices

[RosieCheeScott]

Ok i made my choice and went with the following stack.

Applied Nutriceuticals The ONE+2nd Gear Combo Pack $55.95
Applied Nutriceuticals Drive Overdrive, 240 caps $51.95
Applied Nutriceuticals IGF-2, 240 caps $48.95
Applied Nutriceuticals Bio-Mend, 60 Caps $11.95
Applied Nutriceuticals NeoVar, 110 Caps $13.95
Planetary Formulas? Pumpkin Seed Oil 1000mg Full Spectrum?, 45 softgels $5.95


i got all my stuff from ***************** since every product on bb.com was greatly overpriced.


anyways im gonna run 4caps a day for 4 weeks, on the last week i guess im gonna have to run 3 caps the last 2 day, since this product only has 110caps.

i was also thinking about taking Activiate Xtreme right after my PCT is done. what ya guys think??? mods feel free to also coments.


peace
ron

During your cycle I would run The ONE, Bio-Mend, and the NeoVar.

I would start out at 3 caps daily, and move onto 4 caps if you feel the need to.

Start Drive at the beginning of the last week of your cycle.

Do NOT use the Pumpkin Seed Oil DURING your cycle, as it is a 5AR inhibitor. However you should use it during PCT, as it works as an AI, increases NO synthesis, strengthens pelvic floor muscles, and regulates the prostate to keep it in good health.

During PCT, run 2nd GEAR, Drive, IGF-2, Bio-Mend, NeoVar, and the Pumpkin Seed Oil.

Activate Xtreme would be fine to run once PCT is done.

[MIKEe30]

Don't know if this has been covered yet, but it looks like I have some strept throat


Are antibiotics going to ruin my cycle in ANY way???


Only thing I realllly wanted to not do is get sick, and bam - FML!

[MIKEe30]

did some research, looks like i'm only going to the doctor if it doesnt start to clear up on its own. read it usually clears up on its own in 2-5 days, but if it gets worse i'll have to pay a visit. For those wondering, I only know I have strept because I got a phone call from someone close to me telling me they just found out they had it.

[The Tanya]

did some research, looks like i'm only going to the doctor if it doesnt start to clear up on its own. read it usually clears up on its own in 2-5 days, but if it gets worse i'll have to pay a visit. For those wondering, I only know I have strept because I got a phone call from someone close to me telling me they just found out they had it.

FYI: Anitibiotics can affect your cycle. So, incase you have to get on them, I would hold off until your feeling better so you will maximize your gains.

[ctgblue]

Well, I've been on the stack for a while
I hit a personal best 550lb squat last week
i am doing a run of 585lb 1/4 squats with 315 deep squats after, then some high rep leg press/ext supersets to try and shock a little size outta my legs before tightening up the diet too hard to get the 6 pack back
overall, very pleased with the results, not a lot of weight gain, but strength definitely went way up

[donorrell]

did some research, looks like i'm only going to the doctor if it doesnt start to clear up on its own. read it usually clears up on its own in 2-5 days, but if it gets worse i'll have to pay a visit. For those wondering, I only know I have strept because I got a phone call from someone close to me telling me they just found out they had it.

Not trying to pimp another one of my products per se, but I SWEAR that Bio-Mend is the ultimate cure for everything. The superfood extracts really jack up your immune system, and FAST. Twice now I've started to come down with something, I mega-dosed Bio-Mend (8 / day) and stopped whatever it was in its tracks. Every year for the past 5 years I've gotten the "crud" really bad in late Jan / Early Feb. Like clockwork it started coming on this year, and Bio Mend stopped it too. Plus, I made it to Cancun and back a week ago (we were that for a week) and did not contract the Swine Flu despite warnings not to go shopping in crowded markets like we did. (NO SWINE IN '09!!!) It's cheap, too.

[donorrell]

Well, I've been on the stack for a while
I hit a personal best 550lb squat last week
i am doing a run of 585lb 1/4 squats with 315 deep squats after, then some high rep leg press/ext supersets to try and shock a little size outta my legs before tightening up the diet too hard to get the 6 pack back
overall, very pleased with the results, not a lot of weight gain, but strength definitely went way up

That's awesome Charles.

[donorrell]

FYI, Finasteride blocks the production of DHT from testosterone. It will NOT affect the effectivity of already available DHT or DHT-derivates (such as methyl-DHT).

There is no way to be sure that the reduction in serum DHT can be due to the stoppage of conversion of testosterone to DHT via 5-AR and there being some kind of other competitive interaction with DHT in the bloodstream.

The main MOA of finasteride is to block the conversion of DHT, but there is some competitive inhibition, as shown in some studies. Finasteride competes with (at least to a certain extent) and blocks DHT from binding with the AR, at least in the prostate- and this is what I told him- does this carry over to skeletal muscle? It very well could- and, if it does, then it would very competitively interact w/ and keep DHT-derivatives from binding.

Plus, why risk it?

[Vitruvian]

Yes.