I currently take NA vapor by Muscle Tech and I don't think its all that great, I get a good pump but I hear Jackd3d is way better for the money. I finally finished up the NA Vapor and looking to try something new. Is Anyone taking Jackd3d and recommend it?
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12-29-2011, 01:18 PM #1
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Looking for a good Pre workout supplement any suggestions?
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12-29-2011, 01:20 PM #2
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Jack3d? Gotta be kidding.
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12-29-2011, 01:30 PM #4
Thanks, man! A quiick search will show you that Fierce gets some of the most uniformly outstanding feedback of any pre, because it hits pumps, endurance, strength, focus, crash-free energy, with zero negative side effects, unlike some pres out right now. It's also not a concentrate; it's a whopping 16.4gr per serving, with no carbs. It's effectively dosed, and has a full serving of creatine per scoop; the large serving size means you don't need 1.5 scoops, or more, to find a mysterious sweet spot. It stacks well with almost anything. And it's $35 for 50 full servings here on bb.com.
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12-29-2011, 01:57 PM #6
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Much better options out there..
Some people already listed some good ones..
Look into Scivation Novem as well. 9 active ingredients in their ample dosages provides a nice syngergy among them to give a smooth yet powerful boost of energy. Great focus and pump as well. The formula also includes muscle protectors through antioxidants among the muscle boosters. Per serving you get..
2.5g creatine mono
1.5g carnosyn beta alanine
~175g caffeine
Vit c & e, taurine, tyrosine, cysteine and na-r-ala.
Check out some of the reviews on here, nothing but positives from taste to performance.
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12-29-2011, 01:58 PM #7
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12-29-2011, 03:06 PM #8
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Check out ErgoGenix ErgoPump NMT.
The combination of caffeine and NMT is unlike any other stimulant blend on the market (and at present only exists in two products) - plus a full day's worth of creatine and a host of goodies to boost your endurance
take a look, its very affordable at <1$ per serving http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/er.../ergopump.htmlPicking things up and putting them down since '09
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12-29-2011, 03:52 PM #9
Deez.
OP, here's a link so you can check Fierce out for yourself: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/san/fierce.html
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12-29-2011, 03:57 PM #10
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12-29-2011, 04:01 PM #11
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12-29-2011, 04:09 PM #12
I will also vouch for Novem. I have tried 1MR, White Flood, NO Explode, and a few others. I actually disliked every one of them, probably because I was comparing them to Novem. About an hour after working out, I don't feel like I have even taken a preworkout mix. Cant say that about anything else that I tried. As for servings, Novem can be had for 20 bucks for 40 servings if you look around.
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12-29-2011, 04:16 PM #14
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I recommend Superpump Max for strength, endurance, and pumps, Craze for intense focus and awesome workouts, and SAN Fierce for all-around goodness.
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12-29-2011, 04:48 PM #15
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For great energy, focus, concentration and pumps, CryoShock is hard to beat. Its non-proprietary labeled too do you know what you are taking.
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12-29-2011, 05:13 PM #16
whole bunch of reps in here. honestly there are a lot of good pre's. would be hard to recommend just one. some of the crowd favorites are white flood, lit-up, and ai sports maniac.
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