Is it worth going to a bottom tier law school?

[SicWithIt]

graduated university of illinois. you?

university of houston.

[panic91984]

where do you live?

chicago brah.

[kyleTX]

im a finance major. but yeah its pretty retarded how they label it. you can have any bull**** degree as long as you pass the "pre-law" prerequisites, which any business degree usually does. goddammit i hate finance. where you attend brah?

how can you hate finance already, you haven't even started your business core classes (since you're 19)

It's an islander brah. lol


I go there next semester. **** I don't even know anyone down there.

let me know when you move here, I'll show you around and introduce you to my womenz (serious) (no homo)

[GainThis]

Hey guys, I'm one year away from graduating with a BA in liberal arts. I'll end up graduating with roughly a 3.1 GPA, with tons of W's and a few F's. Terrible transcript. So if I get in anywhere, it will be the bottom of the barrel law schools.


Is it even worth it? I've heard it's generally not a great idea, but I don't really see any other options for me. I'll be 25 when I graduate college with no real skills and a checkered resume.


Should I go?

YES. The only thing a bottom tier will do is prevent you from working on Wall street or a huge namer right away. Go put in your time in some small town, or with a humanitarian agency to gain some real experience. Then make the leap to a high salary job.

[panic91984]

as the economy gets worse lawyers just make more money who are you guys kidding. nows a prime time to go to law school.

lol its a multi-faceted job and many sectors have been hit very hard.
$150,000 in debt in this economy is atrocious.

[SicWithIt]

how can you hate finance already, you haven't even started your business core classes (since you're 19)

im almost 20 brah. had 15 hours out of high school (dual credit and all that ****)

so im damn near a jr.

[Rhetorician]

What do you mean by bottom tier?

[SicWithIt]

What do you mean by bottom tier?

not harvard.



lulz @ your location. (in a good way)

[McMackin]

my dad is a commercial/business litigation lawyer and he says that as the economy gets worse I just make more money. I realize you will be in debt after law school but being a lawyer in general is like a license to print money. the people who work there asses off for 100k at firms are not the people making the money. Its the people who work at the top or are working individually who are making the real money. I dunno about you guys but ive never heard my dad whining about making 495 an hour.

[kyleTX]

im almost 20 brah. had 15 hours out of high school (dual credit and all that ****)

so im damn near a jr.

that still means you probably haven't taken any finance 3000/4000 level classes, maybe 1 or 2 tops. just saying

[SicWithIt]

that still means you probably haven't taken any finance 3000/4000 level classes, maybe 1 or 2 tops. just saying

well said sir. still hate the accounting classes.

[Rhetorician]

my dad is a commercial/business litigation lawyer and he says that as the economy gets worse I just make more money. I realize you will be in debt after law school but being a lawyer in general is like a license to print money. the people who work there asses off for 100k at firms are not the people making the money. Its the people who work at the top or are working individually who are making the real money. I dunno about you guys but ive never heard my dad whining about making 495 an hour.

You sir, are an idiot.

[panic91984]

Its the people who work at the top or are working individually who are making the real money.

therein lies op's dilemma. he wouldnt really be seeking an answer to this question: "i just received a full ride to yale law, you *******s think i should go?" if that were the case.

[DrDouchebag]

ambulence chasing ftw?

[Lethal04]

things have changed a bit and the profession has become very oversaturated. many lawyers never even achieve 6-figure status throughout their entire career. it used to be t-14 would land you anywhere you wanted, but now you need to be top 15% of a t-14 to be considered by the major firms.

do you live in the US? 1st year lawyers make well over $100k here in Texas. 1st year is ~$125k at our firm so I don't know where you get the never making 6 figures from.

[Rhetorician]

do you live in the US? 1st year lawyers make well over $100k here in Texas. 1st year is ~$125k at our firm so I don't know where you get the never making 6 figures from.

Hi there Mr. Anecdotal. How are you?

[panic91984]

well said sir. still hate the accounting classes.

why not double major accounting/finance? sure you might hate it, but it will bolster your resume immensely.

[padresouth]

according to my parents (both lawyers), your law school only affects your first job. Past that, it's all about how you handle yourself in a work environment. Lots of great lawyers come from no name schools and a lot of kids from the top in the nation don't have it. Hell, my dad worked for CalTrans before getting hired by a private firm.

hell yeah...

strong actually got a 151.

no...

things have changed a bit and the profession has become very oversaturated. many lawyers never even achieve 6-figure status throughout their entire career. it used to be t-14 would land you anywhere you wanted, but now you need to be top 15% of a t-14 to be considered by the major firms.

depressing

YES. The only thing a bottom tier will do is prevent you from working on Wall street or a huge namer right away. Go put in your time in some small town, or with a humanitarian agency to gain some real experience. Then make the leap to a high salary job.

not depressing

What do you mean by bottom tier?

Dunno. 3.1 gpa with 161 lsat tier.


according to the graph on lsat, for sure schools include:

akron, barry, baltimore

75% include:
Brooklyn, Cincinnati, City U of NY

50/50:

case western, alabama, arizona state, northeastern

[Rhetorician]

Are you an URM?

[bhxgryphon]

Hi there Mr. Anecdotal. How are you?

lmao, I've never actually heard anyone use this term before. It's quite good. I'm taking it.

[padresouth]

Are you an URM?

No. But I have an african sounding name. I suppose I could check the box, and if challenged, explain how I feel fundamentally african in spirit. The criterion for ethnicity is pretty weak sauce.

[user654415165]

im a finance major. but yeah its pretty retarded how they label it. you can have any bull**** degree as long as you pass the "pre-law" prerequisites, which any business degree usually does. goddammit i hate finance. where you attend brah?

There is NO prelaw prerequisite. (Yes accepted to law school already)

[Rhetorician]

No. But I have an african sounding name. I suppose I could check the box, and if challenged, explain how I feel fundamentally african in spirit. The criterion for ethnicity is pretty weak sauce.

If you can afford or finagle the app fees Id apply to a grip and see what happens...if not LS what?

lawschoolnumbers.com is great-but it is currently down.

[user654415165]

Hi there Mr. Anecdotal. How are you?

At the 3 schools I applied Median starting salary for private practice students is 100k. I am not going anywhere great either.

[Rhetorician]

your LSAT score is weighted more depending on the school (most are like this). honestly i dont think law school is worth it in today's market.

i had every opportunity to go to a great school, but i am still hesitant to go. everyone i have spoken with (from pos graduates to professors) has advised me not to go. even knowing i had a 3.8 GPA and 174 LSAT score. sucks.

What will you be doing instead?

[GainThis]

There is NO prelaw prerequisite. (Yes accepted to law school already)

This, except far from being accepted. 2 years more minimum to make my bid.

You just need (usually) 3 years, or 90 credit hours minimum. Most require a bachelors degree in Anything. Though they obviously place emphasis on someone in Philosophy over Forestry, etc.

[padresouth]

There is NO prelaw prerequisite. (Yes accepted to law school already)

Yeah. we had an admissions counselor come in to field questions at an event I was at. Some kid asked him a sort of self congratulatory question regarding gpa vs. difficulty of major, essentially answering his own question by assuming that schools will account for your major when coming across sub par GPA's.


Counselor basically laffed at the dude, said not at all, if you have the exact same stats as someone else and it's one of the two of you then yes, but they will take a 3.3 with a general studies major over a 3.2 physics major. Stats are everything.

[DontDisturb]

First, most law schools evaluate LSAT score higher than GPA. I know from experience. At 161, you should get into to better than a third tier.

Secondly, I have to friends who both practiced law for a couple of years and then went into other fields. One went to work at an investment bank the other started his own business. The guy at the bank got fired and the other guy's business went under, all due to the current economic downturn.

BOTH have already gotten new jobs at law firms. Do not underestimate where the law degree can come in handy. A lot of people are unemployed, these two with their JDs got new jobs immediately (one at $200K actually).

[Rhetorician]

At the 3 schools I applied Median starting salary for private practice students is 100k. I am not going anywhere great either.

I am sure you are right-however for that 100k you are working 70hrs..with no end in site.

[padresouth]

If you can afford or finagle the app fees Id apply to a grip and see what happens...if not LS what?

lawschoolnumbers.com is great-but it is currently down.

Right on, that's kind of the game plan.

If not LS, fu ck...wendy's? I'm being serious btw. I have zero skills and no resume. I'm living off scholarships right now, but if I were to get a job, which I might, I will be slinging fries.