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    Originally Posted by diablo_03 View Post
    I truly believe that it is the owner who ultimately is at fault.
    I don't know why, but in my area, most of the dog attacks are by pit bulls. They even proposed to ban the breed all together. But if the owner is capable of training the pitbull, then it can be a good family dog.
    Pit bulls were bred to have aggressive characteristics, and if not trainied properly, these traits will begin to show.
    they banned them in Ontario, and the number of dog attacks rose more. The people looking for that big status dog just find another breed.
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    the pitbull would piitb
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    Originally Posted by caldera View Post
    gsd are trained to herd sheep 50 miles day

    i would say the pit has tougher skin and more fighting traits



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    Yea but thats not endurance for a fight. That's at a constant pace of what 4-6?

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    Originally Posted by Rexy View Post
    they banned them in Ontario, and the number of dog attacks rose more. The people looking for that big status dog just find another breed.
    I'm from Scarborough too, although I see enough people with pitbulls. Its on acquiring new pups i'm assuming?
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    Originally Posted by diablo_03 View Post
    I'm from Scarborough too, although I see enough people with pitbulls. Its on acquiring new pups i'm assuming?
    any dogs born after 05 or older dogs that are not fixed are to be put down immediatly
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    Originally Posted by Rexy View Post
    any dogs born after 05 or older dogs that are not fixed are to be put down immediatly
    ****.. But I'm sure a lot of people are not obeying the law. I see enough black guys in my area with pitbull pups. (not correlating breaking the law with black people)
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    Originally Posted by diablo_03 View Post
    ****.. But I'm sure a lot of people are not obeying the law. I see enough black guys in my area with pitbull pups. (not correlating breaking the law with black people)
    I see it too. luckily alot of cops don't agree with the law. They should be carefull too, also comes with 10k fine and goes on your record.

    I have heard something like 5000 dogs killed since 05, so its being done
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    Originally Posted by Rexy View Post
    I see it too. luckily alot of cops don't agree with the law. They should be carefull too, also comes with 10k fine and goes on your record.

    I have heard something like 5000 dogs killed since 05, so its being done
    lol wut ?
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    Originally Posted by caldera View Post
    lol wut ?
    ya brah, Ontario Liberals are ****ed.

    having an illegal pitbull is now a major offense, goes on your record, and comes with a 10k fine (or jail time) plus your dog is put down
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    My weightlifting coach has a pitbull/german shepherd mix... thing is one hell of a guard dog.
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    mind blown?
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    Originally Posted by Rexy View Post
    obviously never owned a Pit. Pits are fantastic family dogs too. Then again, there are alot of breeds that have terrible reps (Rott, Doberman, German Shep. etc)

    why would you believe everything you hear?
    ^^Obviously HAS owned a pit.

    And I don't believe everything I hear, and I don't think all pits are killer dogs. But when 8/10 dog attacks are from pit bulls, why is it always blamed on "bad owners" or "media bias"???

    It's like attributing theft to "poverty."

    Let's get real. We're on a site where people LOVE to play the "genetics" card, but when a breed of dog that is specifically bred for "gameness" attacks someone, it's a fluke and that breed is just a victim of circumstance.

    Ehhh, I don't think so.
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    Originally Posted by TheClips View Post
    ^^Obviously HAS owned a pit.

    And I don't believe everything I hear, and I don't think all pits are killer dogs. But when 8/10 dog attacks are from pit bulls, why is it always blamed on "bad owners" or "media bias"???

    It's like attributing theft to "poverty."

    Let's get real. We're on a site where people LOVE to play the "genetics" card, but when a breed of dog that is specifically bred for "gameness" attacks someone, it's a fluke and that breed is just a victim of circumstance.

    Ehhh, I don't think so.
    I have six game pits in my back yard right now. Not your normal termpered dogs, they are extremely aggressive. As long as you not in my backyard that wont harm you or anyone else. They will lick you to death. They are fine around people. A lot of these attacks are dogs that have been inbred and taught to be aggressive towards humans. I have had more than 30 dogs in my life span and not one has ever showed aggressive tendancies towards a human.

    A GSD wouldnt last 15 min in the pen with a game dog.
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    Originally Posted by TheClips View Post
    ^^Obviously HAS owned a pit.

    And I don't believe everything I hear, and I don't think all pits are killer dogs. But when 8/10 dog attacks are from pit bulls, why is it always blamed on "bad owners" or "media bias"???

    It's like attributing theft to "poverty."

    Let's get real. We're on a site where people LOVE to play the "genetics" card, but when a breed of dog that is specifically bred for "gameness" attacks someone, it's a fluke and that breed is just a victim of circumstance.

    Ehhh, I don't think so.
    The thing that kills me is most of the time when I see a dog attack on the news blamed on an APBT its not an actual APBT. Its some ugly-assed black-yellow mutt, with a stalky build and a big head, so it HAS to be a Pitbull.

    Yes, APBT owner. Mine is a very well mannered dog. He just wants to play with everyone. Everyone that is friendly and comes around with us. If he doesn't know you and you come around without us there, break in or pose any threat to any of the family, you're toast, though and I like that. I don't ever have to worry about anyone harming my mom or little brother as long as the dog is around.

    EDIT: Also, you've got drain-bamage if you think a GS could even stand a chance against a trained Pitt. The baddest Pit alive vs. the baddest GS alive would be a short, short fight. Size being equal, a Pit will win every time.

    Pretty much, 9 times out of 10, a Pit will Skull **** a GS. Unless, MABYE its a smaller size range pit vs. a top of the size range GS.
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    Originally Posted by Rexy View Post
    then read a book. You think Pitbulls are the only fighting dog? You must be a ****ing retard
    OH you read a book huh? I have seen it with my own eyes. In America if your are serious about dogs you have a pit. End of story.
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    I have both, hard to say.

    Our Pit was raised in a family environment. She is a nice, loving and caring dog. Good with children and we even had a kitten at one point.

    Our 1 German Sheppard was trained for police work, we got him afterwards and he was probably a year and a half old. I scared him somehow, and now I can't get near him. We keep him separated in the house. He tries to attack everyone who isn't my mom, dad, or 1 brother. I've always been bit MANY times. Many close calls. Hate this ****ing dog. My dad loves him more then any of us kids though.


    yes mad. yes serious.

    Oh jesus, come on people. Pit's are awesome dogs if you raise them correctly. It's all about how you bring them up. My pit would never hurt anyone. Nicest dog we've ever had, and listens well. Never had a problem ever. She did kill a rabbit once though, bit the thing so hard it's eye popped out.

    Also serious.
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    Originally Posted by bigjosh37 View Post
    I have six game pits in my back yard right now. Not your normal termpered dogs, they are extremely aggressive. As long as you not in my backyard that wont harm you or anyone else. They will lick you to death. They are fine around people. A lot of these attacks are dogs that have been inbred and taught to be aggressive towards humans. I have had more than 30 dogs in my life span and not one has ever showed aggressive tendancies towards a human.

    A GSD wouldnt last 15 min in the pen with a game dog.
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    WTF.. Yes they are. They were breed to kill and hunt mother fudgers down in germany. Hence the name German Shepard. Ye.s the dog has been around longer than GERMANY/WW2
    I thought they were bred to protect herds (...and yes, that does include fighting)
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    Originally Posted by NorrCal View Post
    all a pit has to do is lock that jaw and game over
    You are truly and idiot.


    GSDs have the highest bite strength of any dog besides that of a St.Bernard.
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    Why would you ever match a guardian breed (GSD) against a canine combatant? Yes GSDs are bred with human aggression as it is used in their work.....police dog. GSDs are also bred for their ability to comply to a pack leader or alpha. The K9 cop screams...go get the bad guy, now bring him back, or "out" the dog which means let go. No dog out performs a grade A bred GSD for this type of work..perhaps a hot Mal or a lean Rott. The GSD has the strongest recorded bite strength on a human...

    Now a PB, and there are 4 breeds within this slang term, the American Pit Bull Terrier (a legacy fighting dog), and American Staffordshire Terrier (bred away from the APBT for size, color and conformation to the AKC standard), the Staffordshire Bull Terrier ( a common chase dog in Europe) and the new American Bully (the heavily influenced Am Staff with Mastiff). Of all these dogs the original breed was the APBT, this dog was bred to be compliant to it's handler as the handler was active in the Pit during combat. A Pit matched is scored, dogs are seperated and restarted (Cajun rules), a dog that could not be handled could not be fought well. But what the greatest trait the APBT breed was perpetuated for was "game", and simply put the dog will not quit. So unlike the GSD, a well bred APBT has no recall, once you turn him on he has the will to continue even at great physical harm to himself.

    If you talk to folks that use APBTs in the protection sports they will tell you a PB cannot match a GSD on "the bite" work as the bite work is on humans, a PB has a instinctive aversion to biting people. One must note any out of controll, ill trained dog with power will harm someone.

    But you put another dog in front of an APBT, well regardless of strength it better have staying power, because that is where the APBT shines...it is an illogical match a guardian and a PB, they are bred for different purposes, it is like matching a professional boxer with a professional marksman, both deadly in their own right....but not comparable in one or the others forum.
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    I have a GSD and he was attacked by an agressive pit, my GSD walked away without a mark on him but I can't say the same for that pit.
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    Originally Posted by AKmuscle49 View Post
    You are truly and idiot.


    GSDs have the highest bite strength of any dog besides that of a St.Bernard.
    um no >?

    rottweiler has the strongest bite of all dogs the gsd is 2nd the pit 3rd

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    Originally Posted by TheClips View Post
    ^^Obviously HAS owned a pit.

    And I don't believe everything I hear, and I don't think all pits are killer dogs. But when 8/10 dog attacks are from pit bulls, why is it always blamed on "bad owners" or "media bias"???

    It's like attributing theft to "poverty."

    Let's get real. We're on a site where people LOVE to play the "genetics" card, but when a breed of dog that is specifically bred for "gameness" attacks someone, it's a fluke and that breed is just a victim of circumstance.

    Ehhh, I don't think so.
    Ahh yes- Someone who believes everything the media tells them. Is it nice to be a sheep?

    Ive seen "media" report a APBT attack when the dog was clearly a Rotte/Dobie/Husky/Akita/GSD.
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    <-- GSD owner

    Look at this logically. If a GSD could beat a Pitt then wouldn't all fighting dogs be GSDs? My vote goes to the obvious winner, Pitt.
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    Originally Posted by mydawgs View Post
    Why would you ever match a guardian breed (GSD) against a canine combatant? Yes GSDs are bred with human aggression as it is used in their work.....police dog. GSDs are also bred for their ability to comply to a pack leader or alpha. The K9 cop screams...go get the bad guy, now bring him back, or "out" the dog which means let go. No dog out performs a grade A bred GSD for this type of work..perhaps a hot Mal or a lean Rott. The GSD has the strongest recorded bite strength on a human...

    Now a PB, and there are 4 breeds within this slang term, the American Pit Bull Terrier (a legacy fighting dog), and American Staffordshire Terrier (bred away from the APBT for size, color and conformation to the AKC standard), the Staffordshire Bull Terrier ( a common chase dog in Europe) and the new American Bully (the heavily influenced Am Staff with Mastiff). Of all these dogs the original breed was the APBT, this dog was bred to be compliant to it's handler as the handler was active in the Pit during combat. A Pit matched is scored, dogs are seperated and restarted (Cajun rules), a dog that could not be handled could not be fought well. But what the greatest trait the APBT breed was perpetuated for was "game", and simply put the dog will not quit. So unlike the GSD, a well bred APBT has no recall, once you turn him on he has the will to continue even at great physical harm to himself.

    If you talk to folks that use APBTs in the protection sports they will tell you a PB cannot match a GSD on "the bite" work as the bite work is on humans, a PB has a instinctive aversion to biting people. One must note any out of controll, ill trained dog with power will harm someone.

    But you put another dog in front of an APBT, well regardless of strength it better have staying power, because that is where the APBT shines...it is an illogical match a guardian and a PB, they are bred for different purposes, it is like matching a professional boxer with a professional marksman, both deadly in their own right....but not comparable in one or the others forum.
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    Originally Posted by caldera View Post
    um no >?

    rottweiler has the strongest bite of all dogs the gsd is 2nd the pit 3rd

    Doesn't the dobbie rank pretty high on that list as well?
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    Originally Posted by TheClips View Post
    ^^Obviously HAS owned a pit.

    And I don't believe everything I hear, and I don't think all pits are killer dogs. But when 8/10 dog attacks are from pit bulls, why is it always blamed on "bad owners" or "media bias"???

    It's like attributing theft to "poverty."

    Let's get real. We're on a site where people LOVE to play the "genetics" card, but when a breed of dog that is specifically bred for "gameness" attacks someone, it's a fluke and that breed is just a victim of circumstance.

    Ehhh, I don't think so.

    except the dogs are bread AGAINST human aggression.
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    My money's on the pitbull, I've been attacked by a german shephard when i was 15 they aren't very strong considering their size, and quite frankly pretty stupid unless they've be trained.

    I would **** my self if i was attacked by a pitbull.
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    Pits were bred to fight dogs not humans, they are not any more aggressive towards humans than other dogs.

    GSDs are hearding dogs, they would fight anything to the death that endanged that which they love.

    Just because GSDs would fight to the death does not make them a good fighting dog. They are used mainly against people by police.

    Both are great at what they do, but fighting other dogs is a pits inborn purpose.
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