Why do people compare Obama to Hilter?

[Stizzel]

Ron Paul is not a cult. Theoretically speaking, if Ron Paul did not exist, but another man/woman did and had the same viewpoints, the emotion behind the campaign would be exactly what we saw with Dr. Paul. Now, if you take Obama, replace him with someone else (Hillary Clinton had VERY similar stances with the two exceptions of how to socialize health care and a worse Iraq voting record), the carry over is not the same. Hell, if Obama were white, would he have the same appeal?

Earl injects that same comment into every Obama discussion he follows, it doesn't matter how many times you point out how asinine it is. You'll see him post that again.

[CollegeU]

Earl injects that same comment into every Obama discussion he follows, it doesn't matter how many times you point out how asinine it is. You'll see him post that again.

I've noticed he loves his Keynesian theories, so I guess a hatred of Ron Paul is natural.

[Morbid_Mind]

You've had plenty of time to Wiki Pinochet W3Z0, still waiting on you to back up your claims....

Awesome, thanks for the answer W.

[GregariousWolf]

Ron Paul is not a cult. Theoretically speaking, if Ron Paul did not exist, but another man/woman did and had the same viewpoints, the emotion behind the campaign would be exactly what we saw with Dr. Paul. Now, if you take Obama, replace him with someone else (Hillary Clinton had VERY similar stances with the two exceptions of how to socialize health care and a worse Iraq voting record), the carry over is not the same. Hell, if Obama were white, would he have the same appeal?

Ron Paul isn't a cult leader. He's somewhat fringe, but he's a far cry from Lyndon LaRouche. That guy's a cult.

[GregariousWolf]

Due to being over shadowed by his his acts of unconscionable evil, most people forget that under Hitler, Germany experienced the greatest economic turnaround of any nation in history.

If that's how you look at it, a comparision is a good thing.

There's a couple of reasons.

1. He stopped making reparation payments to France and Britain for losing WWI. These were what was crippling Germany's economy.

2. He instituted a dramatic military buildup program. Putting aside the military ramifications, this would have a short term benefit on the economy. It's uncertain whether sustained government spending at that rate would have helped Germany's economy in the long run, but we'll never know.

[Skettch]

Wrong! The economy was stable; the failure was associated with other (world domination) things.

^ true,

[tmac4real]

Ron Paul is not a cult. Theoretically speaking, if Ron Paul did not exist, but another man/woman did and had the same viewpoints, the emotion behind the campaign would be exactly what we saw with Dr. Paul. Now, if you take Obama, replace him with someone else (Hillary Clinton had VERY similar stances with the two exceptions of how to socialize health care and a worse Iraq voting record), the carry over is not the same. Hell, if Obama were white, would he have the same appeal?

great post and basically summarizes why people call SOME Obama supporters a cult.

What he says apparently doesn't matter, just his apperance and demeanor and the whole hype is what draws the people.

[kosrebelyell]

if people think ron paul leads a cult... it just shows how radical or 'fringy' the US constitution is. that is what it boils down to. if you despise the US constitution and/or the founding principles of this country... then you would consider ron paul and his supporters a cult.

[FIVE OAKES]

Because they're both racist?










Oh snap!!!

[StartTheMachine]

[KRANE]

Because they're both racist?


Oh snap!!!

Few people consider Jews a race, but even if that is your understanding, what examples do you have that Obama is a racist, especially considering he's half white? Furthermore, if that were true, I guess that would mean he hates himself...right?

What he says apparently doesn't matter, just his apperance and demeanor and the whole hype is what draws the people.

Huh? Where were you during his campaign? Practically every word that came out of his mouth was dissected and put under scrutiny by media. The man couldn't even utter a basic greeting without everyone trying to spin it to mean something sinister.

I'm surprised the man even had the courage to speak in public at all.

[theredshirt]

I didn't think it was debatable that fascism and hitler were considered an example of far right wing and communism and stalin were considered far left wing. A true example of how either extreme is detremental to society.

I know a lot of right wingers dismiss college educational professors, but this was well established in all of my classes at my college (UCSB).

I understand not wanting to be associated with hitler, and I often see lefty's do the same with stalin and claim he wasn't acting like true communism. I think we should just accept facts and move on.

Obama will never end up like hitler. If their similarities are talking and motivating people, that is where the comparison should end. Obama will not eliminate jews, he will not try to spread americanism, and I think we see that all this socialist hysteria was just that.

[nonAtlas]

Is it because he is fairly popular.

if i'm not mistaken Reagan was wildy popular at the 1980 election yet i've never seen him compared to Hilter.

Nice try but the fact is President Reagan was popular because he offered an unashamed contrast to the failed left-wing agenda and its latest pusher, named Carter. President Reagan brought a legitimate program of economic recovery, which allowed us--via the free market and incentives that free people recognize and appreciate--seven years of unprecedented prosperity and booming employment numbers, and of restoring respect to the USA internationally and making us safe. And he did all of this without empowering Big Government to take control of every detail of our lives, which tactic is of course the entire essence of President Stick-man's agenda for nationalizing the economy and erasing the Bill of Rights.

Mr Hitler was popular; that's for sure. But his popularity was based on the promise that government would provide what the people "needed". The same as President Stick-man peddled to the dopes who voted for him last November. In the current case, just as in 1933, socialism/marxism is what the guy sold to the fools who were looking to buy whatever answer they could see to the non-problems of the time. B.O., for example, claimed (as the Clintons did, falsely, in 1992) that we had "the worst economy since the Depression", when in fact the great prosperity of the Bush years has kept us from experiencing anything near as severe as actually occurred under Roosevelt during the 1930s.

The guy's entire sales pitch was based on lies to cover the fact that he is the most anti-American "president" in history. (I don't give Carter that distinction because he has been out of office many years and never was so caustically anti-USA and hostile to decency and respectable values back then as he is now.)

[nonAtlas]

I didn't think it was debatable that fascism and hitler were considered an example of far right wing and communism and stalin were considered far left wing.

Except Mr Hitler was a socialist. National Socialism was not "fascism".

[nonAtlas]

what examples do you have that Obama is a racist

You sound like a typical white person.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archive.../03/020088.php

[KRANE]

You sound like a typical white person.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archive.../03/020088.php

And the negative impact to that statement?

[DinoT1985]

Except Mr Hitler was a socialist. National Socialism was not "fascism".

"Nazism is sometimes considered by scholars to be a form of fascism. While it incorporated elements from both political wings, it formed most of its alliances on the political right."- Fritzsche, Peter. 1998. Germans into Nazis. Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press; Eatwell, Roger, Fascism, A History, Viking/Penguin, 1996, pp.xvii-xxiv, 21, 26?31, 114?140, 352. Griffin, Roger. 2000. "Revolution from the Right: Fascism," chapter in David Parker (ed.) Revolutions and the Revolutionary Tradition in the West 1560-1991, Routledge, London.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism#Fascism

"According to most scholars of fascism, there are both left and right influences on fascism as a social movement, and fascism, especially once in power, has historically attacked communism, conservatism and parliamentary liberalism, attracting support primarily from the "far right" or "extreme right." - Laqueuer, 1996 p. 223; Eatwell, 1996, p. 39; Griffin, 1991, 2000, pp. 185-201; Weber, [1964] 1982, p. 8; Payne (1995), Fritzsche (1990), Laclau (1977), and Reich (1970).


http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=N...dzeCBDw&pgis=1

[KRANE]

The guy's entire sales pitch was based on lies to cover the fact that he is the most anti-American "president" in history. (I don't give Carter that distinction because he has been out of office many years and never was so caustically anti-USA and hostile to decency and respectable values back then as he is now.)

This is just plain hate here. There's not a shred of evidence to support any of this.

[Stizzel]

And the negative impact to that statement?

Racism isn't necessarily negative, its just a collectivist way of thinking.

[KRANE]

Racism isn't necessarily negative, its just a collectivist way of thinking.

Wrong! Racism is ALWAYS negative. If you're looking for variations in interpretation maybe you should choose another word?

In any event, that still doesn't answer the question as to him being half white. Who would he be racist against?

[IdahoViking]

Wrong! Racism is ALWAYS negative. If you're looking for variations in interpretation maybe you should choose another word?

In any event, that still doesn't answer the question of him being half white. Who would he be racist against?

Orientals?

[Stizzel]

Wrong! Racism is ALWAYS negative. If you're looking for variations in interpretation maybe you should choose another word?

If someone believes all black people are hard workers, or all asians are good at math, thats not negative. It is seriously flawed, but thats true of all collectivism.

I guess you could say that it is negative in the sense that its overall effect on society is detrimental.

[MediaDeit]

just like Reagan

Can I ask why you would start a thread only to be ignorant?

[KRANE]

Orientals?

Really brah, just what is it that you're trying to prove; and are you sure you want to go down that path? Racist is what way? I'm interested to know how Obama has established a system that negatively impacts the health, welfare or lives of the Asians in this country.

[IdahoViking]

Really brah, just what is it that you're trying to prove; and are you sure you want to go down that path? Racist is what way? I'm interested to know how Obama has established a system that negatively impacts the health, welfare or lives of the Asians in this country.

To my knowledge he hasn't.

That was an ill attempt at humor, and in retrospect a very ill one at that.

Sorry about that; glib, tongue in cheek, answers always sound funnier in your own head than what they usually are.

[Cosmonaut]

Hitler was not socialist, wtf people.

[D0NOVAN]

the only difference in the two was hitler wasnt a pussy.

( no hate )

[CollegeU]

I'm just calling it as I see it. Ron Paul is the subject of a cult, just like Obama. I still don't see how their followers are any different in fanaticism, even though one cult is obviously far larger than the other.


Whoa there, I don't hate Ron Paul like you guys hate Obama. I'm not going from thread to thread accusing Ron Paul of being the anti-Christ. I just think he's wrong. I don't think he has bad intentions, but I'm wary of anyone so eager to sacrifice this country to the corporations. There are some aspects of him as a politician that I like, in fact. But the cultists misinterpret disagreeing with their leader as hate. As far as Keynes goes, you guys can neg me all you want, but I still won't dumb down to your level of economic thinking.

If by our level of economic thinking you mean the same one that Frank Shostak, Peter Schiff, and "Mish" all more or less agree with and used to predict the economic collapse we have seen, then yes, I promise I won't force to dumb you down from the mainstream economists who denied there even was a problem at this time last year.

You type like Keynesian policies are there to protect us from big business, but over the past 70 years all it has given us is big business and bigger government!

[KRANE]

To my knowledge he hasn't.

That was an ill attempt at humor, and in retrospect a very ill one at that.

Sorry about that; glib, tongue in cheek, answers always sound funnier in your own head than what they usually are.

No problem. It's hard to tell sometimes.

[Dummkopf]

They don't mean Hilter and Obama as PEOPLE. You're observing it wrong. When people compare the two, they are talking about the mere fact that well of the majority of Americans don't know the reason they voted for him. Ask them what this "change" and "hope" is they speak of. They don't know.



When I go to my local mall and see this, something is extremely wrong with our country. I fear the intellect of the person that would actually buy these and wear them. The blind follow the blind, not questioning anything.

Thats disgusting