great thread subbed.
when i broke up with my ex of 5 years talking to chicks again was like learning to walk... slowly i gained confidence and learned chicks just want to talk to a guy who isnt a dik or chump, but rather is confident and not trying to get into her pants right off the batl .
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01-28-2009, 01:33 AM #31
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01-28-2009, 01:40 AM #32
Its trial an error brah. I did the same thing with a 9/10 chick once at a train station if you fail you never see her again so who cares. After about 2 mins she said i have a bf when i asked for her number i go so what i got a gf she doesnt have to know she goes no thnx an i walked off
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01-28-2009, 08:48 AM #33
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01-28-2009, 09:28 AM #34
lol god no. if i talked the way you do on here, irl, i wouldn't have friends anymore. confidence is one thing, but 90% of the time you're borderline conceited/seeking constant approval.
lets skip the part where you start getting so insecure that you post pics of urself, challenge me to a beauty contest, and then get upset when people start calling u harry potter.
tell ya what...i'll just ignore your posts and leave u alone, and you can go back to being ur own personal chickenhead. sound good?
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01-28-2009, 09:29 AM #35
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- Dont post tons of shirt off posing pics. Lots of decent lookin girls are turned off by narcissistic guys, they're on here looking to date not necessarily bone.
- Expand your interest box.. thats what puts you on girls "My matches" thing. look at hot girls interests, put them in your box.
- Your goal on POF shouldnt be to bang right away. Start small. Get her myspace, or her number. Then leave her jokey, witty comments or texts every couple days. Fill the downtime of those couple days with leaving jokey, witty comments or texts to other girls from there. Let them blow YOU up.
- My roommate had good luck with making a really genuine, sweet profile he said stuff like "I miss good conversation, and want to find someone I can actually talk to, someone with values and morals, and not just trying to bang right away" etc etc.
- I msg'ed a TON of 10's from all over the country, mentioned that they were what I considered a 10, and I was curious as to why I dont date a lot of 10s in my area, then asked for brutally honest opinions, and reassured them I wouldnt have hurt feelers over their answer. Got TONS of replies, and they were all definite ego boosters lolol
I dunno, do you want a girlfriend or to get laid and talk to more chicks? Honestly bro, it's up to you - but in your situation I'd wanna talk to tons of girls to get more confident in that situation.
Isolate ones that look easy to talk to. Ie, ones that have been laughin at your jokes, starin at you all night, etc.
College is cake bro!! Tons of girls there wanna party and hook up when they're not studying - and you're already the life of the party.
Just remind yourself when you approach a girl that she already likes you and you really cant fuck it up. That should put your nerves at ease.
Your lack of experience is the problem. If you talk to 4 girls a day, you'll be fine in a couple weeks
Strong desperate attempt at tryin to help people i've never had a sticky, not too concerned with it lol
^^ this .. as you start talking to older girls you'll realize the biggest turn ON is confidence. The biggest turn OFF is trying to jump down their pants.
Unless you're younger and talking to girls 18-21, then by all means, get them interested and jump down their pants lol
I'm gunna cover the whole "Dont bust your nut" thing a little down the line.. if anyone's familiar with sales, you'll know what I'm talking about.
Not at all.Last edited by janky; 01-28-2009 at 09:35 AM.
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01-28-2009, 09:31 AM #36
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01-28-2009, 09:42 AM #37
"hey guys am i good lookin'? because i know im good lookin'. On a scale of 8-10...am i a 10 or 11? I'm the man (that's what people tell me). i also think im pretty funny (im told im hilarious). by the way, i'm the man. oh, and did i mention i was funny (people tell me im hilarious). "
that's the **** he usually spits outta his mouth. you're tellin' me that if i say THAT to someone, they're NOT gonna think im insecure??
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01-28-2009, 09:44 AM #38
I dont talk in real life how i do on the computer, but who does? I've never posted pics in a thread of myself (aside from the ****ing POST PICS OF YOURSELF thread...and never challenged anyone to a beauty contest, or posted pics out of insecurity. And one person called me harry potter and it was because of the blue sweater with collared shirt under I was wearing. Christ, who gives a ****?
Enough with your passive aggressive **** here. Just leave the thread. It's not a thread about what you dont like about me as a poster. **** off.
I never said that. You typed that saying thats how I speak, which is untrue, aside from that one thread. And it was different than that...christ its not like I walk around like that irl...its hard to say anything positive about yourself on a message board and not sound like a conceited or insecure prick....case in point (right here).Let's Go Rangers!!!
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01-28-2009, 09:46 AM #39
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What if you don't lack confidence but you just blow at making conversation...all around I suck at it. I've been trying to get better at it but sometimes I don't even know where to start..even with friends, not just strangers. Sucks bigtime.
Do or do not. There is no 'try'.
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01-28-2009, 09:48 AM #40Originally Posted by janky;280506921
I dunno, do you want a girlfriend or to get laid and talk to more chicks? Honestly bro, it's up to you - but in your situation I'd wanna talk to tons of girls to get more confident in that situation.
Isolate ones that look easy to talk to. Ie, ones that have been laughin at your jokes, starin at you all night, etc.
College is cake bro!! Tons of girls there wanna party and hook up when they're not studying - and you're already the life of the party.
Just remind yourself when you approach a girl that she already likes you and you really cant f[color=black
my main problem is that I overthink EVERYTHING...even if I seem like I'm not...I am. I jsut need to master that.Let's Go Rangers!!!
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01-28-2009, 10:00 AM #41
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01-28-2009, 10:47 AM #42
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Hahaha no! But I didnt see him post that, so I was going off his op.
Me either! People's fav thing to talk about is themselves. You listen, they talk. You ask questions that get them to continuously talk. Then make smartass comments about the stuff they're talking about in a joking (playful, not hateful) way.
Well, you're going to have to play the field a little bit and start talking to a few to weed out the garbage and find something worth investing some time in. She doesn't have to be perfect, but don't date a whore either lol...
Overthinking = suicide. Stop it. At all costs. Take every interaction for exactly what it's worth and DONT EXPECT THINGS.
Also, in playing the field, you'll start hangin out with some cuter girls, which in turn will make hotter girls take an interest in you! (read: social proofing if you're into PUA)Last edited by janky; 01-28-2009 at 10:52 AM.
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01-28-2009, 10:53 AM #43
what? i haven't said anything in this thread to make me look that way....you're the one who came in here bringing up something from an old thread. Jesus....do you live to stalk people on a message board. And, don't call me a chickenhead...wtf is that anyway? You trying to be witty? Oh, I get it! Wow, you are clever!
You do realize that by attempting to fight with me, you come off as more of a douche then me? I haven't even said anything to you to provoke you, yet you keep coming back at me, for no reason. Makes you seem more insecure.
Just stop fighting with me in this thread. If you wanna insult me, PM me, but don't ruin the thread, considering its not my thread.Let's Go Rangers!!!
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01-28-2009, 10:59 AM #44
That's the thing...I never said what he posted. HE typed that earlier in this thread and said thats how I speak in all of my threads, which is false. THere was a thread called "post pics of you and rate your attractiveness" so a response like that (it was less idiotic and less insecure than the blown out of proportion one he posted) was pertinent to the discussion.
Not into PUA ****. But yeah, I know I need to stop over thinking...idk why I do, probably from lack of extensive experience....
I don't want to date a whore...but its hard to find a 8/10+ girl who is attractive, funny and worth dating. Especially in college where all girls are trying to be whore pretty much.Let's Go Rangers!!!
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01-28-2009, 11:00 AM #45
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inb4 list of witty openers
WTB list of witty openers165 SPF Power lifter, "Live life with no worries and just do it" - Slavich
~Ron Paul~ 2012
"A wise and frugal government which shall restrain men from injuring one another, which shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government." – Thomas Jefferson (1801)
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01-28-2009, 11:12 AM #46
my problem is i have no witty coments to say, like i cant come up with **** so quickly... is it just practice???
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01-28-2009, 11:21 AM #47
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01-28-2009, 11:21 AM #48
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Bringing out the inner Dickhead...
Ok, I know when I first started talking to girls I had *NO* idea what to say, and I feel like that's a lot of peoples struggling point.. so I wanna touch on that today.
FIRST OFF - STOP PUTTIN THE PUSSY ON A PEDESTAL!!! srsly. Now..
I don't believe in "Scripts". I sold cars for a long time, and have heavy sales background. They always give you these stupid scripts and when you read em to a customer you sound like a robot, they dont like you, and they dont buy.
People buy from PEOPLE. Not robots reading scripts.
Same applies to talking to girls. I can give you guys tons of examples of things I said/say. You can google mystery method. You can use some of Below30's lines from the myspace thread. All good stuff, but the bottom line is, unless it comes from YOU it'll be awkwardly delivered. Your confidence can make any "line" a winner... it's about how you deliver.
I'm really interested in how you guys define "alpha".
It seems like some of you think it's simply being yourself, not taking ****, and making no apologies what-so-ever for the things you say/do. I agree with this 100%. In order to bring out the inner asshole that girls apparently love, you have to be comfortable in your own skin.
Now that you've been socializing and talking to girls/guys and going out more you should be getting a little more comfortable.
How many times have you guys approached a girl and had her be a total snatch to you? Didn't you wanna tell her to eat her own **** and die? Or point out that shes lucky a guy like you even said hi with those disgusting muffin tops and napoleon dynamite boots??
DO IT NEXT TIME.
You have to learn how to not be afraid to say ANYTHING to ANY GIRL. Trust me, I went off on tons of girls that were being bitches and thought they'd call me a fatty or something for lulz.
No, I don't play that ****. I pointed out every single flaw on the bitch, told her she'd be LUCKY to sniff my boxers, and then told her to GTFO.
Too many guys will take **** from girls and just hang their head, tuck their tail, and walk away. Some girls INTENTIONALLY talk **** just to see if a guy will stand up to them, and SOME girls are turned on by guys that DO.
Needless to say, I've either banged or done stuff with every girl I had to put in her place at one time or another.
I'm NOT TELLING YOU GUYS TO GO START **** WITH PEOPLE
I'm telling you guys to NOT TAKE **** FROM PEOPLE.
As far as the "alpha" mentality... it doesn't mean you have to hate/criticize anything with a vagina. I mean, if all you do is just talk **** about girls and point out flaws right off the bat - what girl is gunna wanna talk to you??
LEARN TO MASTER THE "DOUBLE-SIDED COMPLIMENTS".
This is my specialty. If you're into that PUA its similar to a neg, but not. Something along the lines of;
"I like that dress on you... outta all the girls I've seen wearin it today, you pull it off the best... gaaaahhhd DAYUM!"
or
"You're kinda bangin.. and thats weird for me cuz I typically dont like orange lollis"
(orange = too tan duh) (lollis = you guys know this) (raccoons = rocker chicks/cosmetology chicks with hella black eyeliner)(pumkin = orange chubby girls)
Again, I can't/won't script things for you, you need to develop your own lingo and inner A-hole. But master the double-sided compliments. It works unbelievably well lol..
Basically, (and this is all common knowledge, we're almost done w 101) don't be afraid to say anything to a girl. Learn to love the double-sided compliments. Make them confused as to whether or not you're talkin **** or giving a compliment. If they get pissy be like "Wtf, it was a compliment!! lol chill out crabby ass - did I hurt your lil feelers??"
Don't take ****. Say whats on your mind. Wit = quickness and delivery. If you can get comfortable saying the first thing that pops in your head, and delivering it with confidence,
YOU WILL BE GOLDEN AND PULL ALL DAY LONG
Of course, you're gunna have to playfully touch girls when you talk to em, and flirt, but duh, thats common sense ftw!
And you can't be a dick 24/7. No woman hating/bashing. You have to be able to hold some convo with them, make them laugh, make them feel important, etc. but you absolutely NEED to be "alpha" enough to fuck with them a bit and appear in charge at all times.
Don't jump the gun on calling them, hangin out that day, etc. text em from time to time, joke around, play with them a little, and repeat as necessary.
Either you'll know when it's time to bang away, or they'll jump your bones.
If you still absolutely cant think of ANYTHING to say and need some general ideas, these are great openers.. just remember to develop your own and not rely on "material".
Below 30's Myspace thread...
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...yspace+opening
and if you can still find any of the "mystery method" **** on google for free, check out the openers there.. some good starters.
ALSO - Remember, the best source of material is around you at all times for free. Watch your friends, people at bars/clubs/parties, school, etc.. Watch what works and what fails miserably.
Allright guys! Good luck!!
Tomorrow we'll talk about fashion, grooming, and shallowness... fun stuffLast edited by janky; 01-28-2009 at 11:37 AM.
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01-28-2009, 11:28 AM #49
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You're aiming too high for a beginner bro!!! When you started learning to play hockey back in the day did you just run up into an arena and challenge a whole team?! lol
There's plenty of cute 6's and 7's that are funny and not whores. 9s and 10s are 9s and 10s because they SPECIALIZE in getting guys obsessed and drooling over them and sometimes paying for their ****. They're on a very different level mentally. You'll pull some in time, dont worry
Yes. Exactly.
You can find tons of openers to practice with and get familiar, but like I said, DELIVERY will make or break any line.
You could spot a couple signs of interest from a girl, strut over to her and be like "Soooo... were you waiting for me to come over or did you plan on introducing yourself?"
If you deliver with confidence it'll work.
If you sound like a dorky dip**** tryin to get laid it'll fail.
And NOTHING beats learning to bring YOUR A-game and be able to use your OWN wit and charm to pull. That is priceless.
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01-28-2009, 11:34 AM #50
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01-28-2009, 11:35 AM #51
this thread sounds like an ad
you forgot to ask for our credit card #s
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01-28-2009, 11:46 AM #52
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Oh, I'm only breifly familiar with PUA. Not gunna lie
It's all a balance, you have to border on dickhead, then bring it back and border on charmer.
I've very commonly been referred to as the "Charming asshole" or the "charming pervert" lol
ahahahaha
well, I do it to help, but if you wanna give me your number my car notes almost due
I think its bull**** those PUA sites all charge and guys pay thousands to go on "boot camps" etc. It's all common sense/knowledge.
Technically all you need is a guy friend that gets laid. Follow him around and ask questions. lol
I'm just a guy that grew up a shy nerd from a trailer, turned into an ******* punk rock kid that was still too shy around girls, then snapped after having my heart broken one too many times and turned into a fat, drunk, partying a-hole that (big surprise) got laid a ton!
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01-28-2009, 12:17 PM #53
Met my g/f of almost 2 years in a bar. Always swore I'd never date a bar chick.
Here's the short story.
Was at the bar shootin pool w/ a bro.
spotted a hottie in a skirt and bright blue top.
Stared at her all night, all the while she never noticed me. Very creepyish.
Kept bragging about going and hitting on her but was too scared.
When I noticed she was leaving I quickly headed for the rest room so I could use that as an excuse as to why I didn't get her number.
Came out of RR in time to see her friends leaving, I assumed she had left w/ them.
Headed to the bar for a double shot of embarassment/guilty loser erasing Jack Daniels, turn the corner and bam, bump into HER.
Suddenly, I'm big pimpin, with the first thing that came to mind...
"So you're just going to leave without telling me your name?"
Her, "Huh? Uhhh, I'm _____, but who are you?"
**she's in the middle of texting someone**
Me, "I'm your next boyfriend."
**we laugh a bit**
"...and since your phone is already open, I guess you should take down my number..."
2 nights later at same bar, we meet up and had our first kiss.
Disclaimer:
This is what I did WRONG.
Later the first night she took my number she text me and was like, "hope this is you, I'm surprised I entered your number right, I was drunk!"
Me, "Oh really? Yeah it's me, so tell me, what else can you do when you're drunk?"
...she later told me based on that message she was sure I was a sleeze and was only going to meet me again because he friend was pushing her to *try new things, meet new people* and it actually took me a while to climb out of that hole once we started dating.John - a newb.
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01-28-2009, 12:30 PM #54
I guess I'm going to just try and talk to all people the same...if a guy pisses me off, im gonna tell him to **** off...i need to look at all people as equals....girls and guys. so if a girl pisses me off, ill tell her to **** off...maybe not so blunt, but in a clever way, you know. I've done it before...im actually better at insulting than I am at coming on to.
I just need to get out in the field and try it more cause thats the only way ill get better...im positive my problem isnt wit or conversational skills or even fear...its just im not comfortable doing it because its not something i usually do.Let's Go Rangers!!!
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01-28-2009, 12:42 PM #55
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Hahaha!! Exactly bro!! Good job btw. It's hard at bars and stuff cause girls are really stand-offish and only interested in appearance. Plus it's loud as **** and difficult to make conversation.
But sounds like you aced it. And your "lines" were on point cause it came from YOU and YOUR personality, not some rehearsed BS you woulda said had you actually approached.
I think it's better you bumped into her and were FORCED to say something on the spot, because that automatically forces you to be witty and spontaneous
"He who hesitates masturbates"
Exactly. You'll be fine pimpin.. just start talking to more girls. Dont expect things. Don't get discouraged. Just talk, listen, and learn. That's all.
Once you get more comfortable you're gunna be golden!! Everything else is already in place!
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01-28-2009, 04:26 PM #56
how bout some situation specific advice?
Let's Go Rangers!!!
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01-28-2009, 06:37 PM #57
ok so if i start with "can i talk to you for a second?"
good or bad? usually you can tell by their facial expressions whether they actually WANT you to go any further or not..
but is it too bashful?
usually i would follow it up with a lil situational bs and "can i get your number maybe we can go out for coffee or something?"
it works on high school girls is that as far as it'll take me? (i'm in high school)The answer to all your questions lies within this thread.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=809027
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01-28-2009, 06:54 PM #58
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I caught a lot of **** for saying this back in the day, but high school girls dont know WTF they want.
They just wanna be liked, popular within their group, and to party. it's like shooting fish in a barrel! If you're still in HS this is prime time for you to be getting laid!!! Just dont get anyone preggo and dont get stds.
I would say "CAN I talk to you?" Is entirely too bashful. You don't need anyone's permission to talk to ANYONE.
You should have the mind set, YES I'm talking to you.
and "coffee" is prob pretty lame to girls your age. Try "My boy's throwin a party tonight.. you should come with..." (even if he's not - if theres no party just call her later on and say "****, his parents came back, but i wanna see you - you wanna watch a movie over here or somethin??" )
i'm glad you can read expressions and stuff, thats pretty important so you know to keep on or just call it off and say fck em.
I usually watch for some kinda body language or sign that shes at LEAST checkin me out or lookin my way a few times, then you can just go in and say "whats up" .. and build from that.
Remember it's not WHAT you say, its HOW you DELIVER it.Last edited by janky; 01-28-2009 at 06:57 PM.
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01-28-2009, 06:59 PM #59
good call on the fish in barrel..
Ok so i'm in the mall girl looks at me repeatedly...
i Walk up to her and say whats your name bla bla bla..
or whatever it is i think of
but if she hasnt noticed me that is when i would ask ya know?
or she would be completely caught offf guard.. that is my train of thought..
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the coffee thing i use cuz i have a car alot of people my age dont.so by saying
"hit me up i'll pick you up for coffee"
its not like too forward they think i wanna talk and see if they are interesting, and they'll know i have a car
i'm pretty sure i've never actually taken a girl to coffee?Last edited by Juelz919; 01-28-2009 at 07:03 PM.
The answer to all your questions lies within this thread.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=809027
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01-28-2009, 10:32 PM #60
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If a girl's checking you out how do you figure she hasn't noticed you? You're over-analyzing and over-complicating.
Social skills is very basic bro, and girls love wit/confidence. Just say whatever pops in your head, deliver it like its golden material and you're the ****, then ask her to go do something... coffee or whatever.. but fyi, something like that could backfire if shes a creeper or a weird ass shy person - it'll be awkward as hell for you to keep conversation going...
thats why I say tell her theres a party at your friends and ask if she wants to go, then at the last minute say its cancelled and ask to watch a movie at your place lol
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