should ethnicity be a factor in granting citizenship? (writing paper,input=1.5k reps)

[EuphoriaPL]

discuss/explain ur answer

im writing a term paper on immigration, and came accross this article: http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...195250,00.html

im having difficulty addressing this issue without sounding racist. reps to ppl that help me out

[EuphoriaPL]

bump

[EuphoriaPL]

plz help misc

[sfvalley]

Whats your viewpoint on the issue? Are you trying to make the point that hispanics have more than their "fair" share of immigrants?

[Big Ad]

yes polish people should be banned

[EuphoriaPL]

Whats your viewpoint on the issue? Are you trying to make the point that hispanics have more than their "fair" share of immigrants?

i would answer yes to the question i asked, but i dont want to support my opinion with being racist or something of the sort.

it is true that hispanic population is growing faster than any other in the country, and that should be taken into consideration, but i dont want to flat out say that hispanics shouldnt be accepted into the country because there is already too many of them

what exactly do u mean by "fair share"?

[HaRRd LiThIuM]

Immigration should be capped by a numerical limit, a country should only take in as many people as it can support.

The candidates for immigration should be chosen based upon three things:

1.Skills and talents they can offer the country they wish to immigrate to

2.Their willingness to accept the culture of their new country, its laws, its current citizens and to participate in the culture. Culture is not the same as religion, their is no need for them to become hypocritical born again Chrisians like a large portion of America. (Also they should be willing to share their culture)

3. Some immigrants should be accepted for moral reasons, either defectors from foreign countries, people escaping war etc etc

Race has nothing to do with it

[HaRRd LiThIuM]

yes polish people should be banned

Oh snappp

[LordHalbert3]

Yes, Canadians should never be allowed to be Americans.

[INGENIOSO]

in b4 close/lock

[Skettch]

yes,

Small numbers of minority groups are perfectly fine but they should not be allowed to ever develop a sizable population.

[EuphoriaPL]

Immigration should be capped by a numerical limit, a country should only take in as many people as it can support.

The candidates for immigration should be chosen based upon three things:

1.Skills and talents they can offer the country they wish to immigrate to

2.Their willingness to accept the culture of their new country, its laws, its current citizens and to participate in the culture. Culture is not the same as religion, their is no need for them to become hypocritical born again Chrisians like a large portion of America. (Also they should be willing to share their culture)

3. Some immigrants should be accepted for moral reasons, either defectors from foreign countries, people escaping war etc etc

Race has nothing to do with it

repped.

[EuphoriaPL]

yes,

Small numbers of minority groups are perfectly fine but they should not be allowed to ever develop a sizable population.

why should minorities stay minorities in your opinion?

and what makes majorities, better than the minorities?

[Skettch]

why should minorities stay minorities in your opinion?

and what makes majorities, better than the minorities?

Ownership of land,

[Insanity_SC]

Immigration should be capped by a numerical limit, a country should only take in as many people as it can support.

The candidates for immigration should be chosen based upon three things:

1.Skills and talents they can offer the country they wish to immigrate to

2.Their willingness to accept the culture of their new country, its laws, its current citizens and to participate in the culture. Culture is not the same as religion, their is no need for them to become hypocritical born again Chrisians like a large portion of America. (Also they should be willing to share their culture)

3. Some immigrants should be accepted for moral reasons, either defectors from foreign countries, people escaping war etc etc

Race has nothing to do with it

Agreed

[EuphoriaPL]

Ownership of land,

so minorites are worse because they dont own as much land?

well obviously, since there are less of them

[RxPeter]

I think we should only let in the ethnicities that we don't have a lot of. That way it's fair and we're promoting diversity. No one can be mad at that.

[TestosteronePL]

simple. we should just use this easy to understand principle:

[yoj]

if ethnicity is a factor in obtaining citizenship, then that = racist. However, if CULTURE is the determining factor, then it is not racist. Which is key because culture and ethnicity/origin often go hand in hand . Unfortunately I can't think of any part of Mexican culture/beliefs that is a bad thing.They are not strongly religious, they don't have any cultural views that are difficult to assimilate into American views, and they work hard for dirt cheap. Muslims are much easier to argue against :P.

[HaRRd LiThIuM]

in b4 close/lock

stfu kalagan

[Big Ad]

yes polish people should be banned

lol dude you realise i was messing around right?

[TestosteronePL]

if ethnicity is a factor in obtaining citizenship, then that = racist. However, if CULTURE is the determining factor, then it is not racist. Which is key because culture and ethnicity/origin often go hand in hand . Unfortunately I can't think of any part of Mexican culture/beliefs that is a bad thing.They are not strongly religious, they don't have any cultural views that are difficult to assimilate into American views, and they work hard for dirt cheap. Muslims are much easier to argue against :P.

this is the prob.

american citizens lose jobs.

[Skettch]

so minorities are worse because they don't own as much land?

well obviously, since there are less of them

/facepalm.

With open immigration and "anti-discrimination" laws who ever breeds the most controls the country.

Modern day immigration is equivalent to wars of conquest in the past and who ever supports it is either masochistic or lacks foresight into the future.

[yoj]

this is the prob.

american citizens lose jobs.

If they immigrate legally then they are american citizens

[EuphoriaPL]

if ethnicity is a factor in obtaining citizenship, then that = racist. However, if CULTURE is the determining factor, then it is not racist. Which is key because culture and ethnicity/origin often go hand in hand . Unfortunately I can't think of any part of Mexican culture/beliefs that is a bad thing.They are not strongly religious, they don't have any cultural views that are difficult to assimilate into American views, and they work hard for dirt cheap. Muslims are much easier to argue against :P.

isnt culture part of one's ethnicity?

and dude, mexicans are one of the most religious cultures/nationalities. just because someone is mexican doesnt mean they work for dirt cheap. this is often the case because hispanics are the greatest illegal population in the us, so obviously they will work below min wage.

simple. we should just use this easy to understand principle:

serious thread is serious brah

[TestosteronePL]

If they immigrate legally then they are american citizens

but they still would be willing to work for less.

plus all of mexico would move here

[EuphoriaPL]

lol dude you realise i was messing around right?

well, i cant really tell ur tone of voice over the net. either way, it was offensive

/facepalm.

With open immigration and "anti-discrimination" laws who ever breeds the most controls the country.

Modern day immigration is equivalent to wars of conquest in the past and who ever supports it is either masochistic or lacks foresight into the future.

but who says that the current minorities should not take the place of the majorities? and y would it be wrong for the minorites to mass-reproduce and take over the majority of the land?

[Big Ad]

well, i cant really tell ur tone of voice over the net. either way, it was offensive

it would have been offensive if it was in any way serious, you realise you're in the misc right?

[EuphoriaPL]

it would have been offensive if it was in any way serious, you realise you're in the misc right?

yes, but do u realize that if u made a thread saying all blacks should be banned in the misc, your entire user cp would be filled with negs?

u should have said u were just kidding.

[Skettch]

but who says that the current minorities should not take the place of the majorities? and y would it be wrong for the minorites to mass-reproduce and take over the majority of the land?

You are right in some respect, those who lack the will or drive to survive will die off.

We have the means to stop it, easily yet no one wants to. Regardless of America - Europe should maintain a majority white population, allot of Europeans are starting to feel this way to considering the nationalist movements in European countries are gaining allot of traction.