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    Official Weightlifting Competition Thread

    OP edited to reflect current totals of all participating lifters:

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    Name_____________Bodyweight (kg)__Snatch/Clean&Jerk (kg)__Sinclair(age-adjusted)
    chris.L ............ 88 ......... 120   / 155 ............... 320.731
    CHS55 .............. 84 ......... 105   / 135 ............... 287.516
    Quarter Nelson ..... 66.6 ........ 87.5 / 122.5 ............. 282.350
    Madaozeki .......... 61.5 ........ 81   / 100 ............... 281.277
    r_graz ............. 74.5 ........ 82   / 100 ............... 275.109
    gewaltiger ......... 87 .......... 93   / 125 ............... 254.464
    J.L.C............... 82.4 ........ 91   / 112 ............... 252.429
    Baker19 ............ 72.5 ........ 85   / 108 ............... 250.000
    isaku900 ........... 125 ........ 100   / 140 ............... 247.859
    SNATCHTHAT ......... 88 .......... 90   / 120 ............... 244.922
    thesunlessea ....... 71.5 ........ 77   / 102 ............... 234.353
    Marc27Default ...... 105 ......... 97.5 / 118.5 ............. 233.880
    lewdog_5 ........... 83.6 ........ 84   / 110 ............... 232.962
    Sergis ............. 90 .......... 85   / 110 ............... 226.110
    crackyflipside ..... 80 .......... 80   / 105 ............... 224.197
    Mr Ben ............. 93 .......... 84   / 100 ............... 209.268
    The_Taubes ......... 84 .......... 68   /  84 ............... 181.385
    GoJu ............... 93 .......... 70   /  90 ............... 181.972
    SquatzAndpuke ...... 72 .......... 61   /  75 ............... 177.308
    dcamnc ............. 73 .......... 56   /  73 ............... 176.479
    d34dlift ........... 61 .......... 50   /  70 ............... 175.014
    zogorion ........... 86 .......... 61   /  79 ............... 165.108
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    Name_____________Bodyweight (kg)__Snatch/Clean&Jerk (kg)__Sinclair(age-adjusted)
    slyng .............. 47.9 ........ 42   /  52 ............... 143.829
    seosaid ............ 58 .......... 40   /  65 ............... 137.970
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    Originally Posted by Arlecchino View Post
    Thought of recognizing some people for their achievements over the course of the year. Categories would include:

    Most improved (meet total to meet total)
    Best total
    Best lifter (formula)


    Meet results, of course.

    Other suggestions welcome.
    Not sure we have enough lifters competing in this section to make "most improved" work... most seem to be new lifters trying to get form down.

    We could definitely have a "Virtual Olympic Lifting Competition", which could just be best gym/competition lifts at a given bodyweight, ranked by Sinclair score. Video evidence would be encouraged, but not mandatory.

    Best total isn't very meaningful in Olympic lifting since the larger lifters would dominate. The weight classes are very finely delineated in Olympic lifting, much more so than powerlifting. It's almost (but not quite) unheard of for a lifter of a particular class totalling more than the winner of a higher class (Vardanian, Sulymanoglu are notable exceptions and complete freaks of nature).

    We wouldn't even need to divide up into Bodyweight classes; just list the weight you were when you made the lifts and the Sinclair takes care of the rest!

    Example
    Name...............Bodyweight..........Sn/C+J..........Sinclair (age-adjusted)
    Madaozeki.......... 61.5kg..................81/100............281.277

    You can calculate your Sinclair here:
    Sinclair Calculator

    I could volunteer to organize the thread and do the rankings, etc.

    If you're only power-snatching or power-cleaning, that's OK too!

    We could start it as a PR thread with rankings in the first post, and then come up with awards by the end of the year as people improve
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    Thumbs up Great Idea!!

    Name...............Bodyweight..........Sn/C+J..........Sinclair(age-adjusted)
    Madaozeki.......... 61.5kg..................81/100............281.277
    Mr Ben....................93kg..................84/100............209.268


    The year in the topic title should probably be changed to 2009 if we were to start this up.

    Once we get more members willing to participate we can give awards (reps) every couple of weeks/months for certain categories.

    Highest Sinclair
    Best overall total
    Best total - by weightclass/bodyweight
    Holding a #1 ranking for x amount of time (days, weeks, etc)
    Best improvement - (monthly)

    Personally, I think video footage should be required when you post a new max, but I realize not everyone might have a camera so we can have a poll for this later.
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    Mr Ben, race you to a 90kg snatch!!! My current PR is 82.5 but at a heavier bodyweight.
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    Originally Posted by madaozeki View Post
    Mr Ben, race you to a 90kg snatch!!! My current PR is 82.5 but at a heavier bodyweight.
    You got yourself a bet! I think I'll max out next month when I'm finished with the next phase of my training.
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    Originally Posted by Mr Ben View Post
    You got yourself a bet! I think I'll max out next month when I'm finished with the next phase of my training.
    Excellent

    I only managed to snatch on a platform a half-dozen times last year, so I'll do my best to get myself lifting much more often to make a proper run at it!
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    Originally Posted by madaozeki View Post
    Excellent

    I only managed to snatch on a platform a half-dozen times last year, so I'll do my best to get myself lifting much more often to make a proper run at it!
    Ah you jerk. Your sinclair is almost exactly tied with mine, with you being in the lead. :[

    Name...............Bodyweight..........Sn/C+J..........Sinclair(age-adjusted)
    Madaozeki.......... 61.5kg..................81/100............281.277
    Mr Ben....................93kg..................84/100............209.268
    CHS55............... 84 kg ................... 105/130 ........280.431
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    Originally Posted by madaozeki View Post
    Not sure we have enough lifters competing in this section to make "most improved" work... most seem to be new lifters trying to get form down.

    We could definitely have a "Virtual Olympic Lifting Competition", which could just be best gym/competition lifts at a given bodyweight, ranked by Sinclair score. Video evidence would be encouraged, but not mandatory.

    Best total isn't very meaningful in Olympic lifting since the larger lifters would dominate. The weight classes are very finely delineated in Olympic lifting, much more so than powerlifting. It's almost (but not quite) unheard of for a lifter of a particular class totalling more than the winner of a higher class (Vardanian, Sulymanoglu are notable exceptions and complete freaks of nature).

    We wouldn't even need to divide up into Bodyweight classes; just list the weight you were when you made the lifts and the Sinclair takes care of the rest!

    Example
    Name...............Bodyweight..........Sn/C+J..........Sinclair (age-adjusted)
    Madaozeki.......... 61.5kg..................81/100............281.277

    You can calculate your Sinclair here:
    Sinclair Calculator

    I could volunteer to organize the thread and do the rankings, etc.

    If you're only power-snatching or power-cleaning, that's OK too!

    We could start it as a PR thread with rankings in the first post, and then come up with awards by the end of the year as people improve
    Well, total is important as the overall strongest, as well as Sinclair, hence my suggestions of both. That way overall strongest gets the recognition for it as well as best by coefficient. Same way in PL'ing, honestly, but this way there is something for everyone.

    And yes, power versions of lifts are fine, since they are comp legal.



    Originally Posted by Mr Ben View Post
    Name...............Bodyweight..........Sn/C+J..........Sinclair(age-adjusted)
    Madaozeki.......... 61.5kg..................81/100............281.277
    Mr Ben....................93kg..................84/100............209.268


    The year in the topic title should probably be changed to 2009 if we were to start this up.

    Once we get more members willing to participate we can give awards (reps) every couple of weeks/months for certain categories.

    Highest Sinclair
    Best overall total
    Best total - by weightclass/bodyweight
    Holding a #1 ranking for x amount of time (days, weeks, etc)
    Best improvement - (monthly)

    Personally, I think video footage should be required when you post a new max, but I realize not everyone might have a camera so we can have a poll for this later.
    This thread is for what people have alread done, because this section does not get as much attention as some of the other ones. Largely because it is quieter.



    See below.

    Originally Posted by CHS55 View Post
    Ah you jerk. Your sinclair is almost exactly tied with mine, with you being in the lead. :[

    Name...............Bodyweight..........Sn/C+J..........Sinclair(age-adjusted)
    Madaozeki.......... 61.5kg..................81/100............281.277
    Mr Ben....................93kg..................84/100............209.268
    CHS55............... 84 kg ................... 105/130 ........280.431
    If you tie, lighter bodyweight lifter wins.

    Virtual comp for PLing thread:
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=113028291

    Will be less work, since there are no where near as many lifters here.
    Madaozeki - thread is all yours, thanks. We can discuss awards as well. I would say no more than every three months, IMO.

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    Originally Posted by CHS55 View Post
    Ah you jerk. Your sinclair is almost exactly tied with mine, with you being in the lead. :[

    Name...............Bodyweight..........Sn/C+J..........Sinclair(age-adjusted)
    Madaozeki.......... 61.5kg..................81/100............281.277
    Mr Ben....................93kg..................84/100............209.268
    CHS55............... 84 kg ................... 105/130 ........280.431
    CHS55 - Keep in mind my Sinclair is age-adjusted since I'm a Master's lifer! I we were the same age you'd be well ahead

    Well, total is important as the overall strongest, as well as Sinclair, hence my suggestions of both. That way overall strongest gets the recognition for it as well as best by coefficient. Same way in PL'ing, honestly, but this way there is something for everyone.
    I suppose... it seems to me that the Wilkes formula is a LOT friendlier to heavier lifters than a Sinclair is, so the strongest lifters will tend to have the best Wilkes formulas. Is that wrong?

    In case people aren't aware, the Sinclair is a co-efficient adjustment that's supposed to indicate the weight you would lift if you were a Super-Heavyweight. So in my case, my Sinclair is around 280, which means if I were a Super-Heavyweight my equivalent lifts would be something like 125/155.

    Madaozeki - thread is all yours, thanks. We can discuss awards as well. I would say no more than every three months, IMO.
    Arlecchino, it would be nice to keep the tally in a single post at the top of the thread (though people have been awesome about maintaining the formatting when copy/pasting!). How can I edit the top post to organize the competition? Should we start a new thread?
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    Originally Posted by madaozeki View Post
    Arlecchino, it would be nice to keep the tally in a single post at the top of the thread (though people have been awesome about maintaining the formatting when copy/pasting!). How can I edit the top post to organize the competition? Should we start a new thread?
    Since there are not that many entrants, we will stick with Sinclair only. I like things simple.

    You cannot keep editing the top post of any thread. After 24 hours, only a mod of that section can do so. So we can start a new thread for the rankings, and then just PM me with edits to the OP. It will become a sticky here.
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    Name...............Bodyweight..........Sn/C+J..........Sinclair(age-adjusted)
    Madaozeki.......... 61.5kg..................81/100............281.277
    Mr Ben....................93kg..................84/100............209.268
    CHS55............... 84 kg ................... 105/130 ........280.431
    GoJu..................93kg.......................7 0/90...........181.972

    nice thread, I have a meet next week where I'll be posting my first total in my new weight class (85's), I'll probably weigh in at 81-83kg or so, my squat is stronger than when I was a 94 and I'm power cleaning 80kg for reps and I've hang snatched 65kg so hopefully my little weights will be a little less pathetic by comparison next week, lol
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    nice thread, I have a meet next week where I'll be posting my first total in my new weight class (85's), I'll probably weigh in at 81-83kg or so, my squat is stronger than when I was a 94 and I'm power cleaning 80kg for reps and I've hang snatched 65kg so hopefully my little weights will be a little less pathetic by comparison next week, lol
    GoJu as an 85, awesome! The lighter you get the more impressive your lifts sound. I've been living off my time as a 62kg lifter for a long time now!
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    Originally Posted by madaozeki View Post
    GoJu as an 85, awesome! The lighter you get the more impressive your lifts sound. I've been living off my time as a 62kg lifter for a long time now!
    thanks, I feel less fat as an 85 too though my coach has said at my height I could be a 105, lol; hand injury among other things forced me to stop training for 3 months so I lost like 12kg or so, lol, I'm just trying to get up to your lifts, lol, crackyflipside is already there also as a real light 85 and a teammate of ours is getting close as a 69, definetly depressing and inspiring at the same time, haha
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    i don't compete in weightlifting anymore...but i wanna play with my best lifts from 2008. that ok?

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    Originally Posted by isaku900 View Post
    i don't compete in weightlifting anymore...but i wanna play with my best lifts from 2008. that ok?

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    Wow, you weigh 2 of me...
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    Madaozeki.......... 61.5kg..................81/100............281.277
    CHS55............... 84 kg ................... 105/130 ........280.431
    isaku900...............125kg..................100/140...........247.859
    crackyflipside........80kg.....................80/100............220.398
    Mr Ben....................93kg..................84/100............209.268
    GoJu..................93kg.......................7 0/90...........181.972
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    Originally Posted by crackyflipside View Post
    Name_______Bodyweight_______Sn/C+J_______Sinclair(age-adjusted)
    Madaozeki.......... 61.5kg..................81/100............281.277
    CHS55............... 84 kg ................... 105/130 ........280.431
    isaku900...............125kg..................100/140...........247.859
    crackyflipside........80kg.....................80/100............220.398
    Mr Ben....................93kg..................84/100............209.268
    GoJu..................93kg.......................7 0/90...........181.972
    Log-jam in the 80/100 range!

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    I know you have a lot more people in here who compete. Where are they?
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    I guess I'll add my petty lifts for the lulz


    Name_______Bodyweight_______Sn/C+J_______Sinclair(age-adjusted)
    Madaozeki.......... 61.5kg..................81/100............281.277
    CHS55............... 84 kg ................... 105/130 ........280.431
    isaku900...............125kg..................100/140...........247.859
    crackyflipside........80kg.....................80/100............220.398
    Mr Ben....................93kg..................84/100............209.268
    GoJu..................93kg.......................7 0/90...........181.972
    d34dlift...............61kg....................... 50/70............175.014
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    d34dlift...............61kg.......................50/70............175.014
    Yay, someone else my size!!!
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    damn, i'm the fattest m-fer who here doing weightlifting.

    maybe I should take a few months off powerlifting and train for a USAW meet... although i dunno if I can do a snatch anymore...I'd probably have to get my labrum repaired to allow that.
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    not a whole lot of competitors. If i took a video and had a majority of people ok the lift, can it count?
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    Originally Posted by cupcakekid View Post
    not a whole lot of competitors. If i took a video and had a majority of people ok the lift, can it count?
    Well we only just started a couple days ago

    Video evidence not required, but feel free to post one here and we can judge if you're not certain.
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    Originally Posted by isaku900 View Post
    damn, i'm the fattest m-fer who here doing weightlifting.

    maybe I should take a few months off powerlifting and train for a USAW meet... although i dunno if I can do a snatch anymore...I'd probably have to get my labrum repaired to allow that.
    I just (finally) watched your NorCal meet vid. Looks like you've got decent enough flexibility based on your back squat to clean without any trouble. How bad does an overhead position feel? It'd be cool to see what sorts of numbers you can put up. I'm guessing in the neighborhood of 105/145 without too much trouble!

    Also, I've trained with plenty of Olympic lifters bigger than you, including one who was almost exactly 3x my bodyweight at one point. He's since dropped 40lbs and I've gained over 20, so that no longer applies, but it was fun while it lasted!
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    Name_________Bodyweight_______Sn/C+J_____Sinclair(age-adjusted)
    Madaozeki............... 61.5kg...............81/100............281.277
    CHS55.................... 84 kg ............. 105/130 ...........280.431
    isaku900..................125kg...............100/140............247.859
    crackyflipside............80kg.................80/100.............220.398
    Mr Ben.....................93kg.................84/100............209.268
    GoJu........................93kg................ 70/90..............181.972
    d34dlift....................61kg................ 50/70..............175.014
    Here's a version in lbs for those who no not of metric (rounded to the nearest pound so as not to complicate things):

    Name_________Bodyweight_______Sn/C+J_____Sinclair(age-adjusted)
    Madaozeki.............. 136 lbs................179/220............281.277
    CHS55................. ..185 lbs .............. 232/287 ...........280.431
    isaku900.................276 lbs................220/309............247.859
    crackyflipside..........176 lbs.................176/220............220.398
    Mr Ben...................205 lbs.................185/220............209.268
    GoJu......................205 lbs.................154/198...........181.972
    d34dlift..................135 lbs................ 110/154............175.014
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    Originally Posted by madaozeki View Post
    Yay, someone else my size!!!
    There are not too many. How are things at the Hobbit village, btw?

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    Originally Posted by madaozeki View Post
    I just (finally) watched your NorCal meet vid. Looks like you've got decent enough flexibility based on your back squat to clean without any trouble. How bad does an overhead position feel? It'd be cool to see what sorts of numbers you can put up. I'm guessing in the neighborhood of 105/145 without too much trouble!

    Also, I've trained with plenty of Olympic lifters bigger than you, including one who was almost exactly 3x my bodyweight at one point. He's since dropped 40lbs and I've gained over 20, so that no longer applies, but it was fun while it lasted!
    oh i can put a barbell over my head, i c&j'd 245lbs yesterday after my full workout just for fun.

    my snatch technique just blows and i tore up my right labrum a while back so my shoulders don't want to be extended in that position anymore.

    i can still do cleans pretty well though, if i started training them again seriously I could probably go for 150-160kg within a few months.
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    Originally Posted by isaku900 View Post
    oh i can put a barbell over my head, i c&j'd 245lbs yesterday after my full workout just for fun.

    my snatch technique just blows and i tore up my right labrum a while back so my shoulders don't want to be extended in that position anymore.

    i can still do cleans pretty well though, if i started training them again seriously I could probably go for 150-160kg within a few months.
    Hmmm well maybe rehabbing the shoulder or repairing the labrum take precedence over working with a coach on your snatch technique! Still, it'd be cool to see you at least working HEAVY cleans (without the jerk). Who knows... maybe they'd give you a change of pace enough to have a positive effect on your powerlifts? Stranger things have happened...
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    Originally Posted by Arlecchino View Post
    There are not too many. How are things at the Hobbit village, btw?

    I'm NOT a hobbit, thank you very much... I only live in Hobbiton because it's close to work so I save time on my commute... and because I just, well, fit in there... sigh...
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