Do Bent Over Rows work Triceps? (1K+ Reps)

[debrovnik]

I met a lovely young lady on Saturday who works as a personal trainer, to cut a long story short, we were talking about the Bent Over Rows I do on my back day when she mentioned what a good tricep exercise they were...

Anyway... as she is adamant that they work the triceps and not the biceps I thought I'd make a little poll and email her the link.

If anyone would like to give some input as to why this is or is not a great tricep exercise, I will rep!

Thanks!

[buffgrk]

I met a lovely young lady on Saturday who works as a personal trainer, to cut a long story short, we were talking about Bent Over Rows when she mentioned what a good tricep exercise they were...

Anyway... as she is adamant that they work the triceps and not the biceps I thought I'd make a little poll and email her the link.

If anyone would like to give some input as to why this is or is not a great tricep exercise, I will rep!

Thanks!

i think she just wanted your penis, make sure you show her this comment.. oh an also tell her shes fuken stupid, it could have some minor involvement.. but compared to biceps its a big nono

[Bantropic]

You are both "correct".

Bent Over Rows are not a "good" workout for either the Biceps or Triceps.

However, both the biceps and triceps are stabilisers during this movement.

[debrovnik]

i think she just wanted your penis, make sure you show her this comment.. oh an also tell her shes fuken stupid, it could have some minor involvement.. but compared to biceps its a big nono

She's my best friends girlfriend.... I somehow don't think she was after my cawk!

You are both "correct".

Bent Over Rows are not a "good" workout for either the Biceps or Triceps.

However, both the biceps and triceps are stabilisers during this movement.

Obviously the whole musculature of the arm will be used to some degree as a stabiliser but she was saying the predominant exertion was on the tri's where as I was saying the predominant exertion was on the bi's, which is correct.

[buffgrk]

You are both "correct".

Bent Over Rows are not a "good" workout for either the Biceps or Triceps.

However, both the biceps and triceps are stabilisers during this movement.

i think the question he is asking what muscle has greater involvement, it also depends on the grip the person is using, if your grip is supinated than its mainly bicep

[LactoseTolerant]

I once had an argument with people who thought that jumping didn't involve quads. I lost the argument because I was outvoted.

[buffgrk]

I once had an argument with people who thought that jumping didn't involve quads. I lost the argument because I was outvoted.

[Bantropic]

i think the question he is asking what muscle has greater involvement, it also depends on the grip the person is using, if your grip is supinated than its mainly bicep

I agree with the notion that grip plays a role, which the "poll" hasn't specified any grip to be used.

Since neither the bicep or tricep is actively involved in generating the movement, it'd be difficult to argue this point.

The triceps and biceps act as dynamic stabilisers - which effectively means that a trained person (someone who knows how to perform the movement) will be activating each muscle equally to ensure a stabilised elbow joint. You'll notice when you perform it, you're not overly shortening at the bicep (or lengthening at the tricep). They both work generally in unison to stabilise during the motion, ensuring the target (majority of the back) performs the work.

On a whim I'd of course suggest the bicep receives greater stress - though - technically as they both act together as dynamic stabilisers, it is an argument which won't get far. Unless you have EMG readings from tonnes of studies, which will no doubt solve this debate quite quickly.

[clusternakker]

The flaw in the plan is people like me might be inclined to vote tricep just to throw a spanner in the works.

The key factor though in why i'm saying triceps, is because the personal trainer said so! That for me is enough!

VOTE TRICEPS!

[debrovnik]

On a whim I'd of course suggest the bicep receives greater stress - though - technically as they both act together as dynamic stabilisers, it is an argument which won't get far.

Dude, seriously, shut up.

If I did a set of triceps to failure, it wouldn't make **** all difference to my bent over rows.

If I did a set of biceps to failure, my bent over rows would be fukked.

Just think about it

[debrovnik]

The flaw in the plan is people like me might be inclined to vote tricep just to throw a spanner in the works.

Deeper into the red you go

[clusternakker]

Deeper into the red you go

Meh, you'll still be 5'8

[buffgrk]

Meh, you'll still be 5'8

ROFL..

i shouldn't be laughing im 5'5




fuken NEGGED

[debrovnik]

Meh, you'll still be 5'8

Seriously, when your body looks as good as mine - who gives a ****.

[clusternakker]

Now now boys

[Bantropic]

Dude, seriously, shut up.

If I did a set of triceps to failure, it wouldn't make **** all difference to my bent over rows.

If I did a set of biceps to failure, my bent over rows would be fukked.

Just think about it

You asked for people to offer their thoughts on the subject, and then become rude and abrupt when someone makes a suggestion that doesn't entirely align with your own?

Very mature and appropriate.

[chazzy1864]

Dude, seriously, shut up.

If I did a set of triceps to failure, it wouldn't make **** all difference to my bent over rows.

If I did a set of biceps to failure, my bent over rows would be fukked.

Just think about it

Sans the lack of tact, I agree with debrov. The biceps are to the row what the triceps are to the bench press. You won't fully isolate the back muscle, just like you won't fully isolate the chest. An experienced lifter knows how to place most of the emphasis on the muscles, and reduce the role played by the biceps or triceps, but they still support the lift. If you completely fatigue the biceps, it will have an impact on your row. If you fatigue the tricep, the only way that might hinder your row, is due to a pump in your arm.

[debrovnik]

You asked for people to offer their thoughts on the subject, and then become rude and abrupt when someone makes a suggestion that doesn't entirely align with your own?

Brah, you sound like you're talking out of a text book.

My reply made out of common sence and training experience.

Hell, my quads are a stabilising muscles for doing bent over rows, are bent over rows really going to work my legs? No!

Are rows going to work bi's more than tri's yes. Simple bio-mechanics.

Sans the lack of tact, I agree with debrov. If you completely fatigue the biceps, it will have an impact on your row. If you fatigue the tricep, the only way that might hinder your row, is due to a pump in your arm.

True, I have less than zero tact

I also agree whole heartedly with your post!

[entropy1]

lol@ how badly this thread got screwed.

couldnt you have just explained to her muscles only contract and done the motion?

[SquatTilYouDrop]

Awful info in this thread. Just awful!

Rows are a back exercise. People who are getting biceps development from them are probably using bad form.

Anyone who is developing their triceps from rows is defying the laws of physics since they are a "pulling" exercise and not a "pushing" exercise.

[Bantropic]

Brah, you sound like you're talking out of a text book.

I'm not going to dumb-down the way in which I post just because it sounds too formal for you.

My reply made out of common sence and training experience.

Congratulations. I never said they were equally activated. So, your very basic response doesn't differ from mine. Though, you wanted a discussion on the topic, therefore I provided you with additional information, which I will elaborate on below, just for you.

Hell, my quads are a stabilising muscles for doing bent over rows, are bent over rows really going to work my legs? No!

There is a difference between static stabilisers and dynamic stabilisers, and therefore a difference towards the magnitude of stimulus they receive. Your comparison between the quadriceps, and the triceps/biceps is therefore totally irrelevant. But, to use your words, that's just simple biomechanics isn't it debrovnik?

Are rows going to work bi's more than tri's yes. Simple bio-mechanics.

The biceps will fatigue quicker. Though, being a much smaller muscle than the tricep, you would expect this to occur. The bicep has to work harder to achieve the same outcome as the tricep. Naturally it will fatigue faster, naturally it will therefore have a greater negative impact on the bent row should it be pre-exercised / fatigued.

Though, if you want to be so cocky as to suggest that hammering your triceps prior to a bent over row will have minimal impact, then I suggest you physically try it. You'll soon discover your suggestion was incorrect, even if you refuse to admit it via this forum.

[Bantropic]

Awful info in this thread. Just awful!

Rows are a back exercise. People who are getting biceps development from them are probably using bad form.

Thank you.

This is exactly my thought process.

Well said.

[ThickAsABrick]

1 star thread

would not read again

would not print out and laminate

[Defiant1]

Is this thread for real?


I would LIKE to think that this is what your trainer was referring to...but since she said the biceps AREN'T involved I doubt it (it would be like someone knowing statistics but not multiplication)...


The long head of the triceps will assist in extension SOMEWHAT, but the elbow flexors are certainly going to be more involved.

[Randeep.Singh]

well obviously the biceps are involved more as it is a pulling motion which would recruit the biceps more but a pushing motion would recruit the tris more.

[BluntD]

I met a lovely young lady on Saturday who works as a personal trainer, to cut a long story short, we were talking about the Bent Over Rows I do on my back day when she mentioned what a good tricep exercise they were...

Anyway... as she is adamant that they work the triceps and not the biceps I thought I'd make a little poll and email her the link.

If anyone would like to give some input as to why this is or is not a great tricep exercise, I will rep!

Thanks!

Who cares about showing her a poll, tell that bitch to go make you some pancakes!

[debrovnik]

Who cares about showing her a poll, tell that bitch to go make you some pancakes!

Pancakes would be good right about now....

[TulsaCoker]

well obviously the biceps are involved more as it is a pulling motion which would recruit the biceps more but a pushing motion would recruit the tris more.

Exactly. Pull Biceps, Push Triceps.

[Bo DeLone]

Anyway... as she is adamant that they work the triceps and not the biceps I thought I'd make a little poll and email her the link.

If anyone would like to give some input as to why this is or is not a great tricep exercise, I will rep!

Thanks!

She's wrong. How did she become a personal trainer not knowing that? I would like to see her lats and see if she any.

[ThickAsABrick]

Who cares about showing her a poll, tell that bitch to go make you some pancakes!

She wouldn't be interested in your pole anyways.